1 minute ago, DonAntonio said:

That's what they said the first time, unless this is it just being re-reported, but I think he want's to go as we are going to up his pay packet quite nicely. Kyle walker will be sold if city offer 45 mil apparently, if he is 45 then sando is deffo worth 55, mind you I wouldn't mind walker at all but as usual anyone will sell to city but not us for some reason. 

That's because City have no real rivals. Even their supposed biggest "rival" United will sell to them (Tevez). I imagine Spurs are indifferent towards City. They're definitely NOT indifferent towards us. 

2 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

That's because City have no real rivals. Even their supposed biggest "rival" United will sell to them (Tevez). I imagine Spurs are indifferent towards City. They're definitely NOT indifferent towards us. 

I mean that's fans though not the club, but I guess they take in to account the sh*t the fans will kick up if selling to a rival, mind you we bought Torres of a liverpool that was a fierce rival, but they were probably all in on it. 

1 minute ago, DonAntonio said:

I mean that's fans though not the club, but I guess they take in to account the sh*t the fans will kick up if selling to a rival, mind you we bought Torres of a liverpool that was a fierce rival, but they were probably all in on it. 

According to Torres' recent account of that period, the board at Liverpool cared more about the money than keeping Torres. They smeared him when he left to save face. This might be the toughest league in the world when it comes to signing players from direct rivals bar Barca to Real transfers. Most people don't consider City as rivals.

Re Torres I recall Lawrenson on football focus this season throwing in a smart comment advising that Liverpool had conned Chelsea over Torres as he had a knee injury and was no longer the same player.

 

2 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Re Torres I recall Lawrenson on football focus this season throwing in a smart comment advising that Liverpool had conned Chelsea over Torres as he had a knee injury and was no longer the same player.

 

Someone should tell him what the point of a medical is.

9 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Re Torres I recall Lawrenson on football focus this season throwing in a smart comment advising that Liverpool had conned Chelsea over Torres as he had a knee injury and was no longer the same player.

 

Yea well they conned themselves out of winning a title for 30 years so who's f**king laughing lawro you pleb.

Must have also hurt when he scored the goal against Barca at the Nou Camp too!

2 hours ago, Barrettinator said:

 

Nailed it....

“A substantial offer has arrived.”

“We have no intention of selling anyone, but if a player decides to leave, as has happened in previous years, then at the end of the day he has to go, because we don’t keep anyone against their will.”

“But at the moment there are no such situations and I hope nobody will leave.”

Seems he doesn't want to leave. Oh well. Onto the next target.

He'll have to force a move through. I just hope this isn't like last year's Koulabily scandal and we end up with a Micheal Hector, Papy Djilobodji esque signing...

3 hours ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

“A substantial offer has arrived.”

“We have no intention of selling anyone, but if a player decides to leave, as has happened in previous years, then at the end of the day he has to go, because we don’t keep anyone against their will.”

“But at the moment there are no such situations and I hope nobody will leave.”

Seem like a nice well mannered club that Juve

I think we will get him. So that's Sandro Lukaku and Bakyako. Man spelling is tough. Now if we could just add Sanchez or Rodriguez I'd be happy with the transfer season.

2 hours ago, Van Butsen said:

Seem like a nice well mannered club that Juve

They're run properly these days, such a real footballing club

1 minute ago, RMCM said:

They're run properly these days, such a real footballing club

Pity it took a corruption scandal to bring this out

i wonder why sandro has been so quiet. you would think a player would come out immediately and dismiss any rumours instead of letting this debacle drag on. 

19 minutes ago, enigma said:

i wonder why sandro has been so quiet. you would think a player would come out immediately and dismiss any rumours instead of letting this debacle drag on. 

I reckon his silence shows that he is currently in contract negotiations with Juve, if he comes out and favors either party (Chelsea or Juve) he loses that bargaining power

Personally I think he stay at Juve, I don't believe they would want to lose both there full backs in 1 transfer window & in majority of cases player would give preference to a current club if personal terms are vaguely similar   

4 hours ago, Batshuayi said:

He'll have to force a move through. I just hope this isn't like last year's Koulabily scandal and we end up with a Micheal Hector, Papy Djilobodji esque signing...

This whole Papy/Hector narrative is getting really boring.

Saw a tweet on redcafe suggesting Juve looking for replacement left back.

Is this guy really an upgrade over Alonso?

A great advantage for Alonso is his height which is very imp in this league and also considering that we have lots of short players. And he won a lot lot of headers every match last season. Matic too is going to be replaced by a guy of average height in the starting eleven.

5 minutes ago, frendz said:

Is this guy really an upgrade over Alonso?

Yes

5 minutes ago, frendz said:

A great advantage for Alonso is his height 

Jose kept playing a past it Ivan for that reason.

6 minutes ago, frendz said:

Is this guy really an upgrade over Alonso?Matic too is going to be replaced by a guy of average height in the starting eleven.

Bakayoko average height?/??

8 minutes ago, Argo said:

Yes

Jose kept playing a past it Ivan for that reason.

Bakayoko average height?/??

Nah he's well below average.


for a basketballer. The bloke is 6'4", he's even taller than matic and matic has a jump on him like a granny in a bomb disposal suit

12 minutes ago, Argo said:

Yes

Jose kept playing a past it Ivan for that reason.

Bakayoko average height?/??

 

2 minutes ago, RMCM said:

Nah he's well below average.


for a basketballer. The bloke is 6'4", he's even taller than matic and matic has a jump on him like a granny in a bomb disposal suit

 

Compared to Matic (194), Bakayoko (184) is average and compared to Alonso (188), Sandro (181) is also average.

And Alonso, alongwith Cahill and Luiz won the most headers for us last season. And for those headers along the wings, whether in defense or attack, I cant recollect Alonso losing out on any. That tactic to put in aerial balls towards Alonso while attacking, which was used a lot and successfully too, wont work that good with Sandro.

He's not average 'compared to' anyone. An average is a median value, it's taken from a broader base than just two. He's shorter not average. This height obsession does my nut in anyway. If a player is sh*t at jumping, A la Matic, then a shorter player with a better jump will win headers majority of the time. Alonso is great, I love him, but Sandro is world class, alonso is very good but not on his level. If we need more height play alonso against the likes of West Brom, but majority of teams don't just thump balls to the back post hoping ofr the best, and i'd rather Sandro there for his pace against fast wingers. There's always pros and cons, but Sandro's pros far outweigh his cons

Edited June 22, 20179 yr by RMCM

32 minutes ago, RMCM said:

He's not average 'compared to' anyone. An average is a median value, it's taken from a broader base than just two. He's shorter not average. This height obsession does my nut in anyway. If a player is sh*t at jumping, A la Matic, then a shorter player with a better jump will win headers majority of the time. Alonso is great, I love him, but Sandro is world class, alonso is very good but not on his level. If we need more height play alonso against the likes of West Brom, but majority of teams don't just thump balls to the back post hoping ofr the best, and i'd rather Sandro there for his pace against fast wingers. There's always pros and cons, but Sandro's pros far outweigh his cons

I also think that the main reason why we lump it up to Alonso when going forward is because we aren't very good playing it out from the back on that left hand side. Having Sandro there will force us to keep the ball on the floor and pass it around better, which is something i am sure Conte wants when playing 3 cb's and 2 wing backs.