9 hours ago, yorkleyblue said:

I don't think we are talking about the same player, or the same match or something.  I do remember one hit and hope "lump it up to the tall bloke" cross towards the end that Giroud managed to head 15 yards wide from 3 yards out, but nothing amazing or memorable other than that.

That cross at the end was absolutely brilliant, it wasn't a fluke as it was intended to meet Giroud's head.

I don't think Emerson is the answer to our problems but I much prefer him to this season's Alonso.

I recall him being the cause of at least two goals in the Europa matches, either out of position or ball watching. I have no videos to back that up btw.

He can improve but i still think Alonso deserves to be ahead of him for all the major matches.

I think it's unfair to write him off after one poor performance. For so long people have been saying give him a chance because Alonso has been so poor of late and now people are saying drop him after one game (a game which everybody looked poor in) I see this type of reaction all of the time and I find it a bit ridiculous. If he is still repeating the same mistakes in 10 or 15 games time, then yeah, maybe he isn't good enough, but to right him off after one game and after asking for change because Alonso's form has been so poor just doesn't make sense to me.

We have two options. Stick with Emerson for a few months and see how it goes or watch Alonso continue to struggle until the end of the season. 

9 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I think it's unfair to write him off after one poor performance. For so long people have been saying give him a chance because Alonso has been so poor of late and now people are saying drop him after one game (a game which everybody looked poor in) I see this type of reaction all of the time and I find it a bit ridiculous. If he is still repeating the same mistakes in 10 or 15 games time, then yeah, maybe he isn't good enough, but to right him off after one game and after asking for change because Alonso's form has been so poor just doesn't make sense to me.

We have two options. Stick with Emerson for a few months and see how it goes or watch Alonso continue to struggle until the end of the season. 

It's not just one poor performance though, it's one poor performance. one good one, and several mediocre ones against generally weaker opposition. So that indicates to me that his average level could be mediocre at best. I'd like to see him start a few more times in the league before I make my mind up though.

6 minutes ago, bluedave said:

It's not just one poor performance though, it's one poor performance. one good one, and several mediocre ones against generally weaker opposition. So that indicates to me that his average level could be mediocre at best. I'd like to see him start a few more times in the league before I make my mind up though.

Yeah, I don't think he looked great in those Europa League games either, but who did? Pretty much every player looked like a player in a team that was lacking match practice. I would still rather see Emerson given a run in the team though, the alternative isn't any better now so it's at least worth a try. What harm could it do at this point? We either try something different or stick to the same struggles we had before. Emerson could be terrible with a run of games to his name, but if he is then at least we will know for sure.

There's no chance Alonso would have better against Bournemouth, they counter attack so quick Alonso would still be in the opposition area when they scored.

8 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

There's no chance Alonso would have better against Bournemouth, they counter attack so quick Alonso would still be in the opposition area when they scored.

I think the opening goal might have been prevented, since Emerson played them onside with some really poor positioning, but I agree he would likely have struggled with their pace on the whole. 

I think that Emerson is simply a player in a better form than Alonso at the moment.

Edited February 2, 20197 yr by BlueKid145

9 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

There's no chance Alonso would have better against Bournemouth, they counter attack so quick Alonso would still be in the opposition area when they scored.

Disagree massively here, think if Alonso played we win. The tide turned from that first goal, where Emerson was way out of position, he missed headers, and was always caught too far up the field... no coincidence Luiz played like poo that game.  Alonso covers for more mistakes than people realize.

5 minutes ago, Wearyourblue said:

Disagree massively here, think if Alonso played we win. The tide turned from that first goal, where Emerson was way out of position, he missed headers, and was always caught too far up the field... no coincidence Luiz played like poo that game.  Alonso covers for more mistakes than people realize.

You are blaming Emerson for Luiz's mistakes.!!!!

I know Luiz gets a free pass for his frequent defensive faux pauxs from most people on here but that is realllllllyyyyyy stretching it. 

9 minutes ago, Wearyourblue said:

Disagree massively here, think if Alonso played we win. The tide turned from that first goal, where Emerson was way out of position, he missed headers, and was always caught too far up the field... no coincidence Luiz played like poo that game.  Alonso covers for more mistakes than people realize.

Luiz made 3 individual mistakes on one goal, cant blame that on anyone else.

On 01/02/2019 at 18:36, JMaher94 said:

That cross at the end was absolutely brilliant, it wasn't a fluke as it was intended to meet Giroud's head.

And I expect you think Sturridge's goal was absolutely brilliant and not a 1 in a thousand chancer shot, as well.

10 hours ago, yorkleyblue said:

And I expect you think Sturridge's goal was absolutely brilliant and not a 1 in a thousand chancer shot, as well.

It was a brilliant goal, Sturridge has scored goals like that before.

7 hours ago, JMaher94 said:

It was a brilliant goal, Sturridge has scored goals like that before.

If you say so, mate.  If he tried that another 1000 times, he wouldn't score it again.

On 02/02/2019 at 11:43, Scott Harris said:

Yeah, I don't think he looked great in those Europa League games either, but who did? Pretty much every player looked like a player in a team that was lacking match practice. I would still rather see Emerson given a run in the team though, the alternative isn't any better now so it's at least worth a try. What harm could it do at this point? We either try something different or stick to the same struggles we had before. Emerson could be terrible with a run of games to his name, but if he is then at least we will know for sure.

There's a bit of a toxic debate when it comes to Emerson v Alonso. 

There are some people on here who just don't rate Alonso and some of them are just tired of him. I think Alonso is a fantastic wing back, I think he has defensive limitations but so do the likes of Marcelo, Alba and Alaba. I think at times a lot of it gets exaggerated because you've got Azpilicueta on the right who can man mark and track like Ashley Cole, he sticks on attackers like glue, but he doesn't have the offensive output like Alonso has but I would say his crossing is better. 

I can understand both sides, I like both players, I think Emerson should play more and we shouldn't be too harsh with him for one bad game, especially a game where everyone else was just as bad in. But having said that, some of the people who are giving Emerson the benefit of the doubt and saying "It's just one game" absolutely slaughter Alonso if he has a bad game or even just an average game at that. This is sort of the toxic debate I'm talking about. I think we've got two good left backs, and Emerson not playing is just as big of a deal as all the other squad players who can't get a sniff at first team football, the lack of rotation all season has been a problem. 

Alonso's performances have been slipping since around November I think, but I've heard he played really well against Huddersfield (I didn't manage to watch the match) so I think that bolsters the argument that rotation is important. Playing the same players all the time isn't going to work, I respect Sarri's gameplan and stubbornness, but I think he's wrong to not rotate as much. Then again what do I know? 

Apparently Emerson got an injury before the match, so who knows whether he would've kept his place or not.

There's a bit of a toxic debate when it comes to Emerson v Alonso. 

There are some people on here who just don't rate Alonso and some of them are just tired of him. I think Alonso is a fantastic wing back, I think he has defensive limitations but so do the likes of Marcelo, Alba and Alaba. I think at times a lot of it gets exaggerated because you've got Azpilicueta on the right who can man mark and track like Ashley Cole, he sticks on attackers like glue, but he doesn't have the offensive output like Alonso has but I would say his crossing is better. 

I can understand both sides, I like both players, I think Emerson should play more and we shouldn't be too harsh with him for one bad game, especially a game where everyone else was just as bad in. But having said that, some of the people who are giving Emerson the benefit of the doubt and saying "It's just one game" absolutely slaughter Alonso if he has a bad game or even just an average game at that. This is sort of the toxic debate I'm talking about. I think we've got two good left backs, and Emerson not playing is just as big of a deal as all the other squad players who can't get a sniff at first team football, the lack of rotation all season has been a problem. 

Alonso's performances have been slipping since around November I think, but I've heard he played really well against Huddersfield (I didn't manage to watch the match) so I think that bolsters the argument that rotation is important. Playing the same players all the time isn't going to work, I respect Sarri's gameplan and stubbornness, but I think he's wrong to not rotate as much. Then again what do I know? 

Even Baba Rahman will play well against Huddersfield!

4 hours ago, Slojo said:

There's a bit of a toxic debate when it comes to Emerson v Alonso. 

I think we're right where we should be now... a good rotation... 

Emerson didn't lose his place after starting against Bournemouth... it was a midweek game and it was Alonso's turn... that was as predictable as Willian starting after missing a Bournemouth start. 

2 minutes ago, Skinnedy said:

I think we're right where we should be now... a good rotation... 

Emerson didn't lose his place after starting against Bournemouth... it was a midweek game and it was Alonso's turn... that was as predictable as Willian starting after missing a Bournemouth start. 

Agreed that a steady rotation of the 2 is best for now.  But the bottom line is, neither seems to be the long term answer.

28 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

Agreed that a steady rotation of the 2 is best for now.  But the bottom line is, neither seems to be the long term answer.

We don’t know that yet, Emerson hasn’t had a run of games yet. I don’t even know how good he actually is, hopefully we will find out this second half of the season and see if he is the real deal.

7 hours ago, wallosh said:

Even Baba Rahman will play well against Huddersfield!

You didn´t even read his post or did you? Just to troll i guess.

You didn´t even read his post or did you? Just to troll i guess.

Contrary to what you were thinking, I read his post and agree with him. I think you misunderstood my response!

24 minutes ago, wallosh said:

Contrary to what you were thinking, I read his post and agree with him. I think you misunderstood my response!

 @Slojo meant rotation is important and people being toxic about Emerson/Alonso should take step back.

If i understand you correctly, your point is everybody would have looked good against Huddersfield. That was your only response to his post and it just shows what he meant with "toxic" behaviour. Downplaying the perfomance of Alonso. It was not harsh on your point but just why write it.

10 hours ago, Nevamind said:

 @Slojo meant rotation is important and people being toxic about Emerson/Alonso should take step back.

If i understand you correctly, your point is everybody would have looked good against Huddersfield. That was your only response to his post and it just shows what he meant with "toxic" behaviour. Downplaying the perfomance of Alonso. It was not harsh on your point but just why write it.

Yeah he pretty much solidified that point lmao, but he could have also misinterpreted my post, so benefit of the doubt. 

It's true Huddersfield are probably one of the weakest teams we've seen in the whole Premier League era but we've seen Alonso have great games against some of the best sides. I've finally watched the game and I thought he did well, I think Azpilcueta had the better game though. But that's just it isn't it? If you compared every fullback to Azpilicueta you're not going to be satisfied until we have someone like Marcelo or Alaba there. 

And it'll take some time to get fully adjusted to the back 4. 

On ‎04‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 08:22, yorkleyblue said:

If you say so, mate.  If he tried that another 1000 times, he wouldn't score it again.

Being made of glass and looking at his game ratio, he can't surely have tried it more than half a dozen times in his entire career, if at all. The fact he was on the pitch at that time to have a go in the first place kind of made it a bit of a golden shot, anyway.