1 minute ago, robdog said:

Most people in Argentina believe this & not just 12 year kids, but I do tend to agree w/ you a bit. When Argentina need that Hero to lead them to the promise land where was he? Sorta like how The Great DD dragged Chelsea in run to the European Cup.

Most Messi fans I believe. But lets put it in a different way, had Higuain scored in the World Cup Final and won it for Argentina, he still wouldn't be the hero, it would have been Messi anyway.
So Higuain is either the one to be blamed for Messi not being capable to overcome Maradona, or whatever, or he at the best case scenario would have been the little helper for Messi's legacy, and that's it.

This is off topic but people denying Messi is one of the greatest players of all time are clueless and are letting personal hatred get in the way of their view.

Just now, CFCholland said:

This is off topic but people denying Messi is one of the greatest players of all time are clueless and are letting personal hatred get in the way of their view.

He is still a little c**t though 

38 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

So you think that we create enough chances at the moment? 

Our xG (expected goals) is well above how many we actually score.

We do not take the very good chances that we get and that's why we don't score many goals.

Against Newcastle, Willian and Pedro both had 1 on 1s with the keeper and missed them both. Luiz had a free header from a corner and missed.

We're not clinical, that's our biggest issue.

2 minutes ago, WalterWhiteCFC said:

He is still a little c**t though 

 

48 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

So you think that we create enough chances at the moment? 

We have no problem getting into dangerous areas in and around the box, it's the lack of movement from anyone not named Pedro that kills a lot of attacks.

In Sarri's system a minimum two of the front three need to be clever with their movement.

13 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Most Messi fans I believe. But lets put it in a different way, had Higuain scored in the World Cup Final and won it for Argentina

a lot of people from Argentina look at Higuain like in this image

 

Well, good luck to him. Obviously we all want him to do well, but I personally believe he is a striker in decline and won't offer us much more than Morata or Giroud would have offered. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

I can't see how we could possibly do any better than this with the current situation and players available.  I'm happy.  It might not work, but every transfer has its risks.  

In all honesty I think don't think Sarri wants an all out striker I think he would prefer more a number 10/forward in the mould of a Griezmann or Dybala.  Probably not going to get them so who would be the next big players in this type of role?  I don't think Hazard is the answer and I think Sarris now in agreement.

Clubs and National teams are two different worlds. Argentina with Higuain or without always has failed. It doesn't seem to me that Aguero that in Premier  is a monster, did so better of him with the national team.

 

2 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

I can't see how we could possibly do any better than this with the current situation and players available.  I'm happy.  It might not work, but every transfer has its risks.  

In all honesty I think don't think Sarri wants an all out striker I think he would prefer more a number 10/forward in the mould of a Griezmann or Dybala.  Probably not going to get them so who would be the next big players in this type of role?  I don't think Hazard is the answer and I think Sarris now in agreement.

I would like to believe that Alexi Sanchez could work well too, but I am not sure w/ his wages he could fit at Chelsea - also I know for a fact that manure would never help us in our need to find a Striker/False 9 to work in sarriball

47 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

I can't see how we could possibly do any better than this with the current situation and players available.  I'm happy.  It might not work, but every transfer has its risks.  

In all honesty I think don't think Sarri wants an all out striker I think he would prefer more a number 10/forward in the mould of a Griezmann or Dybala.  Probably not going to get them so who would be the next big players in this type of role?  I don't think Hazard is the answer and I think Sarris now in agreement.

I seem to recall Bertrand Traore playing well for us as a "false 9" up at Liverpool in 2016, he ran their defensive line ragged that evening... drop deep spin behind rinse repeat. Couldn't say if he plays there for Lyon, or whether he's still suitable for the role however. Liverpool had Kolo Toure playing that night so I guess that may have been a factor as to why he played as well he did.

I think that was the night Tammy made his debut.

Perhaps lacks Traore's pace... Fekir? Another who could potentially play there, Joelinton? 

Edited January 17, 20197 yr by the special one

I was way more excited about getting Morata, so in hindsight it's a good sign that this deal underwhelms me some.

32 minutes ago, the special one said:

edit: apologies, missed the timeout period to reedit the post

 

Edited January 17, 20197 yr by the special one

in 5 mins of this video I saw more ability, determination and intent than what Morata has shown in one and a half seasons at Chelsea. 

 

13 minutes ago, enigma said:

in 5 mins of this video I saw more ability, determination and intent than what Morata has shown in one and a half seasons at Chelsea. 

 

Troy Deeney with talent hopefully  

Edited January 17, 20197 yr by the special one

59 minutes ago, enigma said:

in 5 mins of this video I saw more ability, determination and intent than what Morata has shown in one and a half seasons at Chelsea. 

There's a youtube highlights video on the Willian thread. If you've never seen Willian play in your lifetime and only watch that clip, you'd think he was the best attacking talent on the planet bar Messi and Ronaldo. 

6 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

So whose fault is that? 

We were led to believe Jorginho WAS the system. He's the grand architect of Sarri-ball and we spent a lot of money on him despite his apparent limited skill set. 

Apparently world cup winner Kante doesn't have the technical attributes to play there. Premier League winner Danny Drinkwater is completely incapable of playing in a three man midfield. We've lost Cesc because of Sarri's preference for Jorginho... Sarri's certainly had it all his own way so far when it comes to the squad, despite his quotes about training the players he's got and the transfer market being a refuse for the weak. All smoke and mirrors that, he's having a huge say on this team and it's on him to start delivering better, more convincing performances as a result. 

What a ridiculous post. It takes time to master a new style, have you forgotten Pep's first season at City?

 

 

24 minutes ago, abramovich said:

There's a youtube highlights video on the Willian thread. If you've never seen Willian play in your lifetime and only watch that clip, you'd think he was the best attacking talent on the planet bar Messi and Ronaldo. 

Yes but we aren't talking about an unknown player.   He is a top player from ten years, has scored 321 goals in career and no needs youtube to know it.  

 

Edited January 17, 20197 yr by Master&Commander

the more I watch Higuain... he reminds me a little of Lampard in a way, that he's so aware of what's around him, and so decisive. The biggest positive to this signing the more I watch I think is, I can see Higuain and CHO really linking up well.

It's a bit of a win win deal IMO short term deal, if it doesn't work out no worry of being lumbered with a big transfer fee and his wages if it does great.

I'm quietly confident Higuain will do very well here, knows Sarri and his system well and a prolific goal scorer wherever he's been and he won't just lose his eye for goal just because he's in his 30s.

Medical tonight, likely to be confirmed before 12pm tomorrow.

3 hours ago, Gol15 said:

That rhetoric is made by 12 year old's. I'm not a fan of Higuain but I find it ridiculous that the blind Messi fans are openly blaming him for Messi not being capable of doing anything meaningful with his national team. I'm so 
How come he never ever scored in the World Cup after the group stage and he played since 2006, that's 4 World Cups mate, 4 World Cups and Messi never ever scored a single goal after the group stage. How come nobody blamed him when he missed the penalty in Copa America? f**k Messi's fans for always blaming someone else when their idol failed.

Messi is by far and away the best player on the Argentinian National Team.

 

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Without Messi in the line-up Argentina earned just 7 points from 8 games – an average that would have left the 2-time World Champions 8th out of 10 countries in CONMEBOL qualifying over 18 games.

When Messi started, Argentina took 21 points from 10 games - an average that would have placed La Albiceleste comfortably in second place just Brazil 3 points behind Brazil.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2018/06/10/2018-world-cup-these-numbers-show-how-much-argentina-depends-upon-lionel-messi/#5b18fea16f0a

 

 

Diego Costa Says What We’re All Thinking: Without Messi, Argentina Is Nothing

https://the18.com/soccer-news/argentina-without-lionel-messi-record-and-statistics

 

Just seven points out of 21 without Messi: The stats that show Argentina will miss their suspended captain

https://www.goal.com/en/news/14552/world-cup-2018/2017/03/28/27266142/just-seven-points-out-of-21-without-messi-the-stats-that

 

Argentina without Lionel Messi - Spain defeat a new low

https://en.as.com/en/2018/03/28/football/1522262454_253555.html

1 hour ago, abramovich said:

There's a youtube highlights video on the Willian thread. If you've never seen Willian play in your lifetime and only watch that clip, you'd think he was the best attacking talent on the planet bar Messi and Ronaldo. 

Except Higuain isn't some random player. His goal record is elite. He's a proven goalscorer.