5 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Delusional or not that's the problem, managers need to get more leniency here. 

How can we ever hope to change philosophy when we can't accept the sacrifices that come with it? Do we just call every attacking manager AVB from now on? 

It’s not due to the attacking the AVB Comparison is coming from it’s the sheer lack of tactical awareness to change games and adapt to certain situations...that plus the embarrassing results.

You talk about changing a philosophy but the club have made it very clear they won’t accept being embarrassed in terms of results. History has shown what the end game is here and it certainly isn’t changing for Sarri no matter how much you want it to.

at 60years of age i can not see sarri changing much now, old dogs and new tricks

Sorry but this what everyone wanted. I distinctly remember most fukers on here wanting to see possession and attacking football and would be quite happy to lose trying. You got what you wanted so fck off.

Sarri is not a winner, he played good football with Napoli but they didnt win anything. Conte on the otherhand was a serial winner..4 leagues..3 Italien and then PL on the trot. At the same time

Conte was not stupid..he knew he couldnt play attacking football with these sh!t players..so he adapted and pulled a miracle winning the league and fa cup. If he was backed in the tfr market im sure he would have made the style slightly more expansive. 

Any manager who has ever won anything is able to adapt..has different strategies for different games..changes tactics. Sarri hasnt changed once..in fact ive never seen a coach this stubborn. Hence, why hel never win anything. 

Sarri has repeatedly criticised the players in public in the last month. The only other coach whose done that is Morinho..but as a player youd rather take that criticism from one of the most successful managerd ever. Not a former banker smoker whose never won anything. 

Sarri has had the worst start then all managers in last 16 years..including scolari and AVB. 

He is playing the greatest defensive midfielder weve ever seen out of position. Its because of Kante Leicester, Chelsea and France won the fcking league and world cup. What do you do? Start playing him right wing ahahahaha.

But its ok everyone wanted lovely attacking football. 

He is out of his depth on so many levels..tactics, ability to change a game, player selection, motivating, handling press..endless list. 

Chelsea have never looked this spineless..he has singlehandedly taken away the identity of Chelsea FC. 

Give him time? For what ..hes never won anything. Klopp and Guardiola at least won so they were working towards something and always demonstrated competencies in key skills that Sarri has failed miserably in already.

6 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

It’s not due to the attacking the AVB Comparison is coming from it’s the sheer lack of tactical awareness to change games and adapt to certain situations...that plus the embarrassing results.

You talk about changing a philosophy but the club have made it very clear they won’t accept being embarrassed in terms of results. History has shown what the end game is here and it certainly isn’t changing for Sarri no matter how much you want it to.

I guess Pep should've got sacked when he lost 4-0 to Everton then... 

It's his first season for crying out loud, Pep did f**k all in his first season and had a much better squad. 

4 minutes ago, El_Phenomeno said:

Sorry but this what everyone wanted. I distinctly remember most fukers on here wanting to see possession and attacking football and would be quite happy to lose trying. You got what you wanted so fck off.

Sarri is not a winner, he played good football with Napoli but they didnt win anything. Conte on the otherhand was a serial winner..4 leagues..3 Italien and then PL on the trot. At the same time

Conte was not stupid..he knew he couldnt play attacking football with these sh!t players..so he adapted and pulled a miracle winning the league and fa cup. If he was backed in the tfr market im sure he would have made the style slightly more expansive. 

Any manager who has ever won anything is able to adapt..has different strategies for different games..changes tactics. Sarri hasnt changed once..in fact ive never seen a coach this stubborn. Hence, why hel never win anything. 

Sarri has repeatedly criticised the players in public in the last month. The only other coach whose done that is Morinho..but as a player youd rather take that criticism from one of the most successful managerd ever. Not a former banker smoker whose never won anything. 

Sarri has had the worst start then all managers in last 16 years..including scolari and AVB. 

He is playing the greatest defensive midfielder weve ever seen out of position. Its because of Kante Leicester, Chelsea and France won the fcking league and world cup. What do you do? Start playing him right wing ahahahaha.

But its ok everyone wanted lovely attacking football. 

He is out of his depth on so many levels..tactics, ability to change a game, player selection, motivating, handling press..endless list. 

Chelsea have never looked this spineless..he has singlehandedly taken away the identity of Chelsea FC. 

Give him time? For what ..hes never won anything. Klopp and Guardiola at least won so they were working towards something and always demonstrated competencies in key skills that Sarri has failed miserably in already.

Antonio is that you? 

3 minutes ago, El_Phenomeno said:

He is playing the greatest defensive midfielder weve ever seen out of position.

Didn’t realise we’d resigned Makelele. 

The thing is all the defending of Sarri is revolved around playing attacking football. If thats his one defence, why have we been struggling for goals for nearly 3/4 months now.

23 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Sarri has won nothing just like them.

This whole Sarri hasn’t won anything thing? What exactly was he meant to have won with Napoli, Empoli and much worse? His teams punched way above their weight. Guardiola on the other hand - if you gave me the Barca team with Messi, Iniesta, Xavi et al, I reckon I might have been able to win a couple of things. 

1 minute ago, Slojo said:

I guess Pep should've got sacked when he lost 4-0 to Everton then... 

It's his first season for crying out loud, Pep did f**k all in his first season and had a much better squad. 

We aren’t City.

Its no good making up scenarios when it goes against what we know the club do.

Pep was a manager who won the lot, and I don’t remember Coty ever losing to Bourmouth 4-0 or being tanked 6-0 either in his first season. 

1 minute ago, Oli said:

The thing is all the defending of Sarri is revolved around playing attacking football. If thats his one defence, why have we been struggling for goals for nearly 3/4 months now.

I think most of the defence is to not to sack a manager after half a season again and try a different approach. 

We've seen what the likes of Jose Mourinho can accomplish now, f**k all. His style of football is outdated, attacking fast paced football is what's winning games lately, not defensive or pragmatic, we need to adapt with everyone else before it's too late. 

But if we sack Sarri we are straight back to square one. 

1 minute ago, Chelsbear said:

We aren’t City.

Its no good making up scenarios when it goes against what we know the club do.

Pep was a manager who won the lot, and I don’t remember Coty ever losing to Bourmouth 4-0 or being tanked 6-0 either in his first season. 

Like I said Pep had a much better squad, he had a squad that literally already won 2 league titles and numerous other cups and he finished 4th with no trophies. 

If you want Sarri gone fair enough, but what is your solution? It's pointless wanting rid if you've got no solution. 

7 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

Antonio is that you?  

Marina is that you ?

 

30 minutes ago, Kentonio said:

Why is this such a problem? We knew what football he wanted to play when we signed him. We knew it would be a long hard battle to teach it to the team. We knew we weren’t title challengers this year. So now when we’re in one final, still fighting for 4th and still in the other 2 cups, now is the time we should just abandon the whole thing and go back to defensive football? 

And people act surprised that we’re stuck in an endlesss boom/bust cycle. As soon as sh*t gets hard, everyone wants to jump ship.

Are people asking him to change his philosophy? More expecting a top class coach to adapt tactically to differing situations, show some flexibility. Today we started with a Jorginho sized hole in the front of our defence and found ourselves quickly two goals down, yes one was a brain fart but lets be honest by the time Aguero had scored his worldy we could have been beaten out of sight already. How about making a tactical change just to keep us in the game? Sometimes even good attacking teams have to play ugly. 

The interesting thing will be how he approaches the final in two weeks, will he play just the same or will he have adapted?

7 minutes ago, Slojo said:

I think most of the defence is to not to sack a manager after half a season again and try a different approach. 

We've seen what the likes of Jose Mourinho can accomplish now, f**k all. His style of football is outdated, attacking fast paced football is what's winning games lately, not defensive or pragmatic, we need to adapt with everyone else before it's too late. 

But if we sack Sarri we are straight back to square one. 

Exactly. I think reaction is from people who are understandably nostalgic for the 2012 season when RDM salvaged something special from the ashes of the AVB disaster. Difference is that the team then was much better and full of leaders. We get rid of Sarri now and not only are we back square one but I reckon the rest of the season will be like Hiddink's second stint here.

Not sure this is wise. Sarri to Italian media (via @footballitalia):

“If the President calls, I’ll be happy, seeing as I never hear from him. To be honest, I don’t know what to expect.”

Well there goes the final veneer of our invincibility of old.

We're now the sixth-best team in the division, with a porous defence and an anaemic attack. We're now worse than Tottenham.

The manager is actively making us less effective. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

4 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Not sure this is wise. Sarri to Italian media (via @footballitalia):

“If the President calls, I’ll be happy, seeing as I never hear from him. To be honest, I don’t know what to expect.”

Same situation as Conte then. No access.

Long way away from the ? messages to Carlo after each loss.

That is really dumb. It`s like Abramovic doesn`t give a s****.

It really was the same s*** with Conte. Like he has no word, no power, and everything is in the hands of the board, understand - Marina.

I`m just wondering, till when exactly, the manager will take the blame for all, and Roman will give money and money and money to replace them, and no sanction for the board, and players?

 

 

Edited February 10, 20197 yr by loshlosh

 

20 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Not sure this is wise. Sarri to Italian media (via @footballitalia):

“If the President calls, I’ll be happy, seeing as I never hear from him. To be honest, I don’t know what to expect.”

No but it’s quite an eye-opener in terms of what it says about the commitment and ambition of the owner. Good on him for saying it. 

In the players defence, you could see that the players were trying to implement the plan of the high press but City just tore them open. 

The players can rightly turn round to Sarri and say that that they are implementing the tactics. 

You could argue that they weren’t quite doing it as intensely needed but they were trying to implement it. 

2 minutes ago, Dean said:

No but it’s quite an eye-opener in terms of what it says about the commitment and ambition of the owner. Good on him for saying it. 

Roman seems to have more distant involvement these days, partly because of his Visa issues. It feels more and more as though the club is run by a bunch of business people who have no idea about football.

5 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Roman seems to have more distant involvement these days, partly because of his Visa issues. It feels more and more as though the club is run by a bunch of business people who have no idea about football.

Didnt i say this year ago ? :D

Didn`t Conte kinda say the same things ?

He have the same problems.

 

Edited February 10, 20197 yr by loshlosh

1 minute ago, loshlosh said:

Didnt i say that year ago ? :D

Didn`t Conte kinda say the same things ?

He have the same problems.

 

That is why changing the manager will not help at this point. The board needs to hire a Director of Football first. If that person feels Sarri is wrong as manager they can show him the door and find a successor.

12 minutes ago, loshlosh said:

That is really dumb. It`s like Abramovic doesn`t give a s****.

It really was the same s*** with Conte. Like he has no word, no power, and everything is in the hands of the board, understand - Marina.

I`m just wondering, till when exactly, the manager will take the blame for all, and Roman will give money and money and money to replace them, and no sanction for the board, and players?

 

 

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