Where can you explain us ?

You want him to quit his football philosophy and be someone else, something that he don`t know ?

Did Guardiola do that, when he failed in his first season ?

Do Klopp change something drastically?

Did they change formation and so on ?

The Answer is NO !!!
They shake up little things and change a little and make small difference, and a small difference at that high level football is the difference between win and loss.

 

It`s fun how people expect Sarri to change drastically. He was never be a tactical god on the pitch, he was all style. You should know what to expect from him. The board as well.

 

 

 

Sarriball started well but was found out a while ago, he sticks to his guns and every team uses the same blueprint to play against us now, our results now depend on whether or not the team we play against has the quality to execute it.

I don't agree with blaming players/dressing room culture. JT, Lamps, Drogba, Cech have seen through plenty of managers.

Do we want a bunch of soft yes men like Arsenal did in those 9 trophyless years? Wenger told them how to play and they just nodded.

If winning trophies is the main aim over sticking with managers, promoting youth etc. then we have to just keep doing as we've done.

4 minutes ago, abramovich said:

And therein lies the problem, Maurizio.

Why is this such a problem? We knew what football he wanted to play when we signed him. We knew it would be a long hard battle to teach it to the team. We knew we weren’t title challengers this year. So now when we’re in one final, still fighting for 4th and still in the other 2 cups, now is the time we should just abandon the whole thing and go back to defensive football? 

And people act surprised that we’re stuck in an endlesss boom/bust cycle. As soon as sh*t gets hard, everyone wants to jump ship.

6 minutes ago, abramovich said:

And therein lies the problem, Maurizio.

Not at all, what do you expect him to do? Go back on his philosophy? We hired this man to change the way we play and we need to support him. 

I fully support Sarri in this matter, it's a sh*t result but sacrifices will be made, forget top 4 this season, United are going to get it regardless. 

8 minutes ago, abramovich said:

And therein lies the problem, Maurizio.

Not really. He told the board this before he came, why would the board be surprised? 

1 minute ago, loshlosh said:

Where can you explain us ?

You want him to quit his football philosophy and be someone else, something that he don`t know ?

Did Guardiola do that, when he failed in his first season ?

Do Klopp change something drastically?

Did they change formation and so on ?

The Answer is NO !!!
They shake up little things and change a little and make small difference, and a small difference at that high level football is the difference between win and loss.

 

It`s fun how people expect Sarri to change drastically. He was never be a tactical god on the pitch, he was all style. You should know what to expect from him. The board as well.

 

 

 

His football is not good enough. It doesn't matter that we lose but it matters that Sarri doesn't have a good tactic, every good team will win against him and this game proves it.

1 minute ago, Slojo said:

Not at all, what do you expect him to do? Go back on his philosophy? We hired this man to change the way we play and we need to support him. 

I fully support Sarri in this matter, it's a sh*t result but sacrifices will be made, forget top 4 this season, United are going to get it regardless. 

 You only have to look at AVB when he was brought in to play more attacking football but we got destroyed much like under Sarri.

Delusional if you think Sarri will get time here suffering these kind results. 

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

His football is not good enough. It doesn't matter that we lose but it matters that Sarri doesn't have a good tactic, every good team will win against him and this game proves it.

So who's Football is good enough? Klopp and Pochettino are praised endlessly and have won nothing over four years.

Just now, Luca Vialli said:

So who's Football is good enough? Klopp and Pochettino are praised endlessly and have won nothing over four years.

Sarri has won nothing just like them.

Edited February 10, 20197 yr by Gol15

Just now, Gol15 said:

Sarri has won nothing just like them.

You can't win anything unless you're given time. And you didn't answer the question...

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that's half-time...#cfc players heads bowed...no-one saying a word to each other

 

Speaks volumes about the state of our team. Where is the encouragement or motivation? Where's the desire or leadership? As soon as things gets tough the main reaction from our players is to put their head down and feel sorry for themselves. 

Gol15, not true.  Its player problem. after the mid season, they start to underperform, once again. Oh dear, what a big surprise i`m saying this for last three years.

Yet you all blame only the managers. And let`s say three different managers. Oh it`s 4 with a Hiddink, cause he ain`t done a s****.

Player started to underperform and that is it.

Also we lack of quality players not only on the bench, but in starting 11 too.

And one game doesn`t prove a s****.

This season we previously beat City with 2-0, we beat Arsenal, make a remy with Liverpool and Untd.

We was having a great season i didn`t even expect that, but once again just like last year in one time our player started to fade out and underperform.
Sorry but can`t see how it`s the manager fault again.

Also Sarri have zero time in the preseason, and he have to change formation drastically from 3-4-3 to completely different system and differente style of play.

If someone of you think this could be done in a no time and with average player, pls go tried yourself.

Before we appointed him, most of u was swearing and him and saying he is one of the best managers in the world. And no the same people are calling him - average.

Atleast stick to your original opinion, otherwise you look really bad.

 

 

1 minute ago, Luca Vialli said:

You can't win anything unless you're given time. And you didn't answer the question...

Well that’s not strictly true.

 Plenty have 

1 minute ago, Luca Vialli said:

You can't win anything unless you're given time. And you didn't answer the question...

He won't win anything even with time. His football, tactics, away game history is not good enough. He's not the right man for the job. This game proved it.

1 minute ago, Luca Vialli said:

You can't win anything unless you're given time. And you didn't answer the question...

People can't answer it because they're in a fantasy dream world where we have the perfect manager who plays beautiful football, as well as challenging for the title etc while using a small group of quite mediocre players expecting miracles after 6 months. 

Simon Johnson‏Verified account @sjstandardsport 2h2 hours ago

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that's half-time...#cfc players heads bowed...no-one saying a word to each other

 

Speaks volumes about the state of our team. Where is the encouragement or motivation? Where's the desire or leadership? As soon as things gets tough the main reaction from our players is to put their head down and feel sorry for themselves. 

13 minutes ago, Kentonio said:

Why is this such a problem? We knew what football he wanted to play when we signed him. We knew it would be a long hard battle to teach it to the team. We knew we weren’t title challengers this year. So now when we’re in one final, still fighting for 4th and still in the other 2 cups, now is the time we should just abandon the whole thing and go back to defensive football? 

And people act surprised that we’re stuck in an endlesss boom/bust cycle. As soon as sh*t gets hard, everyone wants to jump ship.

This this this.

I'm tired of people bringing up the JT/Lamps/ DD/ Cech stronghold. They absolutely put us on the map and got players to  knuckle down and play for the badge by seeing how the Chelsea Gods performed time and again on the pitch but those days are past. We now need a new system and philosophy to move forward.

Having figureheads in the dressing room worked when we needed to arrive. Now that we have, we need to find a philosophy that transcends having a few players that run the dressing room.

Times change. None of the dippers or Citeh or even Sp*rs have those type of leader players. They have a system that allows players to move seamlessly in and out of the team without disruption  to the central ethos of the system set by the manager.

We either move with the times or we will get left in the past. 

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

He won't win anything even with time. His football, tactics, away game history is not good enough. He's not the right man for the job. This game proved it.

Shall we reanimate the corpse of Bill Shankly? How about pumping ol Sir Alex full of drugs and giving him a go?

Seriously who is this golden shot manager that's going to re-ignite a group of players with no leader and a tendency to go missing and not bother doing whatever the manager asks?

Just now, Kentonio said:

Why is this such a problem? We knew what football he wanted to play when we signed him. We knew it would be a long hard battle to teach it to the team. We knew we weren’t title challengers this year. So now when we’re in one final, still fighting for 4th and still in the other 2 cups, now is the time we should just abandon the whole thing and go back to defensive football? 

And people act surprised that we’re stuck in an endlesss boom/bust cycle. As soon as sh*t gets hard, everyone wants to jump ship.

It's a problem because the man is seemingly unable to adapt and change his tactical approach depending on the opponents his team is facing, he sets up the team and plays exactly the same way time and again. He prepares the team for a full week (!) and then it concedes 4(!) goals by the midpoint of the first half. The game is effectively over 20 minutes before halftime. He's from Italy, right? I thought Italian managers were renowned for their tactical skill, especially when it comes to defending. WTF is he doing in training with these players? 

It's not the result, or even results that upset me so much, it's his arrogance. What has Sarri accomplished in his career that he thinks he doesn't need to prove he can adapt when things are not working? Win a f**king trophy, pal.. Prove your style is actually working. To your players, to your employers, to the fans, to yourself, ffs. Excuse me, but finishing second in Serie A doesn't exactly blow me away. If we laugh at Spurs/Pochettino "almost winning" the league or "almost signing" top players, how's Sarri's accomplishments any different? 

8 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

 You only have to look at AVB when he was brought in to play more attacking football but we got destroyed much like under Sarri.

Delusional if you think Sarri will get time here suffering these kind results. 

Delusional or not that's the problem, managers need to get more leniency here. 

How can we ever hope to change philosophy when we can't accept the sacrifices that come with it? Do we just call every attacking manager AVB from now on? 

During his after Match interview, was he asked why he snubbed Pep’s hand?  

I hope he was asked that, since In my view Citeh actually could have scored more if they wanted to, and it was not a nasty match with bad tackles.  So there is not a reasonable excuses for his tactless act.

Edited February 10, 20197 yr by Phillip
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1 minute ago, Luca Vialli said:

Shall we reanimate the corpse of Bill Shankly? How about pumping ol Sir Alex full of drugs and giving him a go?

Seriously who is this golden shot manager that's going to re-ignite a group of players with no leader and a tendency to go missing and not bother doing whatever the manager asks?

Keep putting out other names, I keep focusing on only one name and that is Sarri. He's not good enough. And since you can't prove that he is you prefer to live in a dreamland where you believe Sarri is the next Sir Ferguson just waiting for some patience before he starts winning titles.

Alex Ferguson won a lot in Scotland before joining the Premier League. Sarri won nothing.
Shankly turned around a whole club and did whatever he wanted there to do so. Sarri isn't interested in transfers.
 

7 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

Well that’s not strictly true.

 Plenty have 

To be fair, it has mostly been us. In the last two decades or so, we are the only premier league team that has won the league in a manager's first season. If my stats are wrong, we are the team that has had it happened to the most. Most managers come into this league needing a year or two before they can challenge for the title or win it. The expectations for managers to perform wonders in their first season isn't the norm.

3 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Delusional or not that's the problem, managers need to get more leniency here. 

How can we ever hope to change philosophy when we can't accept the sacrifices that come with it? Do we just call every attacking manager AVB from now on? 

The problem here is cash. It doesn’t matter if we keep Sarri or not. If the club won’t instantly rectify several years of transfer negligence then under Sarri or any one else, we’re in a decline and they won’t be able to reverse it. We’re just about treading water right now but we’re clearly getting tired.