5 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

It will be a shame if Mendy is not back in the team! All GKs have their gaffes ie Lloris and De Gea or bad games but still remain the teams No 1. Mendy losing this will be more to do with his pay demands. He is one of the lowest lowest paid players in the team and rightly deserves much more! People forget we won the CL with him.

His confidence is shot and if he’s not making unforced errors or flapping at crosses he’s generally making me very nervous when the ball is near him. It sounds simplistic but if a keeper makes me nervous every time the ball is near him then unfortunately I haven’t got any confidence in him.

If he works hard and gets back into the team then I’m sure it will be deserved - Potter sees him every day in training after all.

I truly hope any pay discussions isn’t affecting his form because that wouldn’t be good.

I just think Kepa should be the man in possession for now and IMO is more suited to how GP’s keepers played at Brighton.

Think Mendy is gone personally. 

5 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Think Mendy is gone personally. 

Wouldn’t be surprised, really we should be aiming for a good shot stopper, someone who commands his penalty area and who’s decent with his feet, not settling for 2 goalkeepers who individually only manage 33% or 66% of that requirement.

38 minutes ago, 2211 said:

Wouldn’t be surprised, really we should be aiming for a good shot stopper, someone who commands his penalty area and who’s decent with his feet, not settling for 2 goalkeepers who individually only manage 33% or 66% of that requirement.

Boehly to me is a no nonsense type (which I admire). The amount of mistakes from Mendy in 2022 were on full display with Boehly in attendance or viewing. Unacceptable mistakes and is arguably the reason we lost to Real Madrid.

The fact Mendy wants an improved deal given his limitations as a modern day GK, shouldn't be considered. Unless he is willing to to be a back GK with back up GK wages, a new GK is rightfully a priority next summer, with hopefully both Mendy and Kepa out door. 

18 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Boehly to me is a no nonsense type (which I admire). The amount of mistakes from Mendy in 2022 were on full display with Boehly in attendance or viewing. Unacceptable mistakes and is arguably the reason we lost to Real Madrid.

The fact Mendy wants an improved deal given his limitations as a modern day GK, shouldn't be considered. Unless he is willing to to be a back GK with back up GK wages, a new GK is rightfully a priority next summer, with hopefully both Mendy and Kepa out door. 

This is very insulting to Mendy. Hes the same keeper who won us the Champions League, World cup and won Afcon????? And you think he has limitations as a GK and should be a back up? Doesn't deserve a pay rise? Very insulting!!!

19 hours ago, 2211 said:

Wouldn’t be surprised, really we should be aiming for a good shot stopper, someone who commands his penalty area and who’s decent with his feet, not settling for 2 goalkeepers who individually only manage 33% or 66% of that requirement.

Gone where???

1 hour ago, Edjmendy said:

This is very insulting to Mendy. Hes the same keeper who won us the Champions League, World cup and won Afcon????? And you think he has limitations as a GK and should be a back up? Doesn't deserve a pay rise? Very insulting!!!

The champions league was 18 months ago now, been downhill since then for his club form. Realistically he probably is back up level or mid-prem level starter. We have the worst keeper in the big 6. 

2 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

The champions league was 18 months ago now, been downhill since then for his club form. Realistically he probably is back up level or mid-prem level starter. We have the worst keeper in the big 6. 

Yeah worrying how he has really dropped off, Kepa now should really be given a chance to be first choice ahead of Mendy.

Mendy's strongest attribute initially was his shot stopping, and his ability to come for crosses and command the area, that has massively dropped off since the beginning of this calendar year, add to that his vulnerabilities with the ball at his feet then we are leaking a lot more goals than we were previously, when he was on form. 

Kepa has had a bit of a mini redemption in my opinion. He never grumbled about being the back up keeper under Tuchel and whenever he did get a chance he played well and seemed to have ironed out the silly mistakes he was making previously. Even on Saturday there was nothing he could do for the goal, he made 2 or 3 really good saves, was strong coming for crosses and his distribution was pretty good as well. If Kepa can carry on in this type of form then I've no issue with him being first choice again for a little while. 

All our good first team keepers go through this phase. I remember fondly those who were saying Cech was washed about 6 months before he won us the Champions League. Mendy will come good once we sort our defence.

Kepa on the other hand has some fundamental flaws in his game and I'll say it again is too short to be a top class Premier League keeper. Be careful what you wish for.

12 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

All our good first team keepers go through this phase. I remember fondly those who were saying Cech was washed about 6 months before he won us the Champions League. Mendy will come good once we sort our defence.

Kepa on the other hand has some fundamental flaws in his game and I'll say it again is too short to be a top class Premier League keeper. Be careful what you wish for.

Mendy's lack of ability with his feet is a fundamental flaw in the modern game though also. 

Ideally we bin them both off and get someone decent in. 

3 hours ago, Edjmendy said:

This is very insulting to Mendy. Hes the same keeper who won us the Champions League, World cup and won Afcon????? And you think he has limitations as a GK and should be a back up? Doesn't deserve a pay rise? Very insulting!!!

There’s a very old saying ‘Your only as good as your last days work’. Mendy when he arrived was clearly a very motivated keeper an upgrade on an out of form Kepa. Truth is, his form has dipped badly since the AFCON. Not sure why, he appears to be the same keeper though his confidence is shattered. Maybe he just isn’t working hard enough at the simple stuff in training, the stuff that Cech saw in him. Whatever it is though we need a fully confident focussed keeper, if he isn’t to be that he will go down the road of many other decent keepers and drop down the pecking order till his confidence re-emerges.

3 hours ago, drjonesy1994 said:

Mendy's strongest attribute initially was his shot stopping, and his ability to come for crosses and command the area, that has massively dropped off since the beginning of this calendar year, add to that his vulnerabilities with the ball at his feet then we are leaking a lot more goals than we were previously, when he was on form. 

Kepa has had a bit of a mini redemption in my opinion. He never grumbled about being the back up keeper under Tuchel and whenever he did get a chance he played well and seemed to have ironed out the silly mistakes he was making previously. Even on Saturday there was nothing he could do for the goal, he made 2 or 3 really good saves, was strong coming for crosses and his distribution was pretty good as well. If Kepa can carry on in this type of form then I've no issue with him being first choice again for a little while. 

He wanted to leave. Almost left on a loan but only stayed because no club could afford his wages!!!. The amount of disrespect Mendy gets is staggering!

3 hours ago, drjonesy1994 said:

Kepa has had a bit of a mini redemption in my opinion. He never grumbled about being the back up keeper under Tuchel and whenever he did get a chance he played well and seemed to have ironed out the silly mistakes he was making previously. Even on Saturday there was nothing he could do for the goal, he made 2 or 3 really good saves, was strong coming for crosses and his distribution was pretty good as well. If Kepa can carry on in this type of form then I've no issue with him being first choice again for a little while. 

I disagree. In as recent as the Salzburg game we got a "peak" Kepa reminder.

I mean does he look good compared to what he did in 19/20? Well yes it would be pretty impossible not too but the weaknesses that caused us to look elsewhere in the first place are still very much there.

25 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

The amount of disrespect Mendy gets is staggering!

Nobody is disrespecting Mendy, he's just not exempt from criticism. Like everybody else in the squad. In that initial run under Tuchel he looked one of the best keepers in the world, and was rightly praised for his form and performances. Now his form has dropped, he's going to get criticism. Just because he's being criticised doesn't mean he's being disrespected. 

24 minutes ago, Argo said:

I disagree. In as recent as the Salzburg game we got a "peak" Kepa reminder.

I mean does he look good compared to what he did in 19/20? Well yes it would be pretty impossible not too but the weaknesses that caused us to look elsewhere in the first place are still very much there.

Maybe Kepa could've done better with that goal, but 3 outfield players all made mistakes in the build up to that goal so harsh to pin it all on Kepa in my opinion (I say this as someone who used to play in goal so will always try to defend keepers where I can!)

Kepa 19/20 looked like he was going to concede and make a mistake everytime he played, and that's how I feel about Mendy currently.

This season alone Mendy has:

- Gifted Leeds a goal
- Flapped at a cross to give West ham a goal
- Bottled coming for a cross at the last minute, West Ham hit the post and were unlucky not to score
-Made a mistake at the end of the West Ham game and very lucky to have a free kick given in his favour. 

That's 4 big mistakes, only 2 led to goals but very easily could've been all 4 leading to goals. That's not including the high profile mistakes he made at the back end of last season as well.

Kepa at the moment is the player in form and producing better performances, no reason why he shouldn't be given a run for now. 

4 hours ago, drjonesy1994 said:

Kepa at the moment is the player in form and producing better performances, no reason why he shouldn't be given a run for now. 

People trying to pretend Kepa is a premier league level keeper or saying he's in form everytime he goes a game without a massive howler will never not be funny.

4 hours ago, drjonesy1994 said:

Maybe Kepa could've done better with that goal, but 3 outfield players all made mistakes in the build up to that goal so harsh to pin it all on Kepa in my opinion (I say this as someone who used to play in goal so will always try to defend keepers where I can!)

Kepa 19/20 looked like he was going to concede and make a mistake everytime he played, and that's how I feel about Mendy currently.

This season alone Mendy has:

- Gifted Leeds a goal
- Flapped at a cross to give West ham a goal
- Bottled coming for a cross at the last minute, West Ham hit the post and were unlucky not to score
-Made a mistake at the end of the West Ham game and very lucky to have a free kick given in his favour. 

That's 4 big mistakes, only 2 led to goals but very easily could've been all 4 leading to goals. That's not including the high profile mistakes he made at the back end of last season as well.

Kepa at the moment is the player in form and producing better performances, no reason why he shouldn't be given a run for now. 

That list alone shows the difference between the two. Mendy makes a few errors in a period and its considered a disaster yet while Kepa when (Mendy was away) made two big mistakes and was rooted on his line for the Brighton corner and it was regarded that he did well. And then we go into the encouragement he gives opposition players (Tielmens practically admitted he went "f**k it it's Kepa" in the cup final).

I don't like going all in on Kepa like I do a certain other couple of players on our books as unlike them he seems to actually have some self awareness and isn't trying to PR himself into chances but if the plan is to give him an extended run I'll give it to the world cup at the latest until we're pining for even this version of Mendy.

56 minutes ago, HazardousChoice said:

People trying to pretend Kepa is a premier league level keeper or saying he's in form everytime he goes a game without a massive howler will never not be funny.

Compared to Mendy’s recent form, he is the form player of the two currently. I can’t think of a recent goal in a game Kepa has played where he has been 100% at fault for a goal the other team has scored, there might be one or two but at the moment I can’t think of any. 
 

Mendy has been 100% at fault for at least 2 goals this season, and a good handful the back end of last season. 

14 hours ago, Argo said:

That list alone shows the difference between the two. Mendy makes a few errors in a period and its considered a disaster yet while Kepa when (Mendy was away) made two big mistakes and was rooted on his line for the Brighton corner and it was regarded that he did well. And then we go into the encouragement he gives opposition players (Tielmens practically admitted he went "f**k it it's Kepa" in the cup final).

I don't like going all in on Kepa like I do a certain other couple of players on our books as unlike them he seems to actually have some self awareness and isn't trying to PR himself into chances but if the plan is to give him an extended run I'll give it to the world cup at the latest until we're pining for even this version of Mendy.

No one is praising Kepa or saying he's a first team keeper, most are only arguing that of the two keepers we have, Mendy's form has dipped and is now less reliable than the 'unreliable' Kepa, who has picked up some form and is making less mistakes than when he was out of form.

4 hours ago, RMH said:

No one is praising Kepa or saying he's a first team keeper, most are only arguing that of the two keepers we have, Mendy's form has dipped and is now less reliable than the 'unreliable' Kepa, who has picked up some form and is making less mistakes than when he was out of form.

Yeah exactly. None of us want Kepa as the log term number 1. Of the 3 keepers we have he is currently the best of a bad bunch imo.

On 03/10/2022 at 17:50, Edjmendy said:

It will be a shame if Mendy is not back in the team! All GKs have their gaffes ie Lloris and De Gea or bad games but still remain the teams No 1. Mendy losing this will be more to do with his pay demands. He is one of the lowest lowest paid players in the team and rightly deserves much more! People forget we won the CL with him.

You don't see the growing and reoccurring pattern of errors that Mendy has allowed into his game? Errors that have consistently cost us either chances, points or elimination.

Mendy started life well, he was an assured pair of hands, with inconsistent kicking..... Unfortunately he has evolved into an error prone gk, who flaps at crosses (his previous top strength) and has degraded from inconsistent, simply into a liability with his feet.

This decision is not ad-hoc, but merited on a growing pattern of behavior in terms of his performances. He would not get into Arsenal, City, Spurs, Brighton, Utd, Newcastle, Liverpool, Brentford, Everton, Villa, West Ham or Forest. He might be in with a shout at Fulham, Leeds, Southampton, Palace, Wolves and Leicester - but at our level, we need to aim higher than that.

Is Kepa the answer? I hope so....but probably not. But just because Kepa has previously been under pressure, it doesnt mean that we should persist with an under par Mendy. With the GK coaches and Cech gone - the writing could be on the wall for Mendy.

All reports indicate we are after a GK in the summer. 

Slonina is the long term prospect. 

First cleansheet since Everton I think, he did a decent job when being called upon, which is a lot better I could say about the other guy. Isn't Oblak out of contract at the end of the season? I'm sure we will go after a first choice GK