40 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

Being branded a disgraceful statement. 

At this point it doesn't matter what the club do, the rats and leeches in the media want to crucify us. I suppose that's what 20 years of jealousy, anger and hatred do to some people. 

Actually very sad, those people need professional help. 

Man city haven't released a statement, their players wore shirts, but nothing explicit from the club. This is stark as their owners are the UAE govt who are refusing to take sides in this. 

We need to do better, but some steps have been taken at least. I hope our players make a statement today that is no war. But lots of people are pointing the finger at our club and not looking at themselves.

15 hours ago, The Don Antonio said:

f**k that Man City c**t. We have to know that a lot of folks in the media don't like us. What does he want Roman to do " Come on TV and denounce Putin". If he is not smart enough to understand that statement from Roman then sucks for him.

Maybe he should start by denouncing his 'dubious' owners first...he's a footballer (or thought he was) with a brain of a flip flop.

59 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

Being branded a disgraceful statement. 

It is tbh.

Better off saying nothing than that there.

Edited February 27, 20224 yr by Sindre

Even if we did wear yellow and blue today, the Liverpool fans would still be shouting blue murder from the rooftops.  I would not surprise me in the least if Liverpool themselves did not approach the FA and ask for them to change their colours today to yellow / blue in the hope to get yet more plaudits and drooling from the media.

Maybe I'm being thick here, but why is the club statement, ....."The situation in Ukraine is horrific and devastating. Chelsea FC’s thoughts are with everyone in Ukraine. Everyone at the club is praying for peace."...  being branded as "Disgraceful"?

Edited February 27, 20224 yr by Fansince65

Because it's Chelsea.

 

It's ludicrous that in this day and age, whenever anything bad happens in the world, it seems like every company has to "take a stance" and "come out against it".

Yes, there's a war and people are dying, but what does McDonalds think about it? Are Coca Cola devastated? It's very strange.

12 minutes ago, Zeta said:

It's ludicrous that in this day and age, whenever anything bad happens in the world, it seems like every company has to "take a stance" and "come out against it".

We are owned by a Putin ally and enabler.

And it's only right that clubs take an actual stand against the horrors of the invasion we are now seeing. 

That statement is pathetic. We couldn't even call it for what it is, an invasion. Instead we called it a "situation" and a "conflict" and that pisses me right off. No condemnation of Hitler, I mean Putin. No condemnation of the invasion or Russia.

It doesn't even make it clear which side the club is on. Reads just as much as Russian propaganda as anything else.

Compared to all this, football means very little and I am getting more and more uncomfortable with our ownership by the second.

2 minutes ago, Sindre said:

We are owned by a Putin ally and enabler.

And it's only right that clubs take an actual stand against the horrors of the invasion we are now seeing. 

That statement is pathetic. We couldn't even call it for what it is, an invasion. Instead we called it a "situation" and a "conflict" and that pisses me right off. No condemnation of Hitler, I mean Putin. No condemnation of the invasion or Russia.

It doesn't even make it clear which side the club is on. Reads just as much as Russian propaganda as anything else.

Compared to all this, football means very little and I am getting more and more uncomfortable with our ownership by the second.

I think youll find youre in the minority here and rightfully so. You sound like all the other media hungry people that demand some sort of statement. Roman is a Russian Oligarch so by its very nature he will obviously have mixed with Putin. How do you now expect him to come out and denounce Putin, when he is threathening normal protesters with jail. I know for a fact you wouldnt do it, but you expect him to risk his life and his family's future.

Also on the clubs statement, I think they made their intentions very clear. Roman is still owner, and we as a club cant come out all guns blazing against russia as a result because of the tensions it would create on him. But we still said enough to say we dont want a war in a diplomatic way that protects everyone.

If you cant see the line roman and we as a result have to thread on this matter, i dont know what to tell you.

7 minutes ago, Sindre said:

We are owned by a Putin ally and enabler.

And it's only right that clubs take an actual stand against the horrors of the invasion we are now seeing. 

That statement is pathetic. We couldn't even call it for what it is, an invasion. Instead we called it a "situation" and a "conflict" and that pisses me right off. No condemnation of Hitler, I mean Putin. No condemnation of the invasion or Russia.

It doesn't even make it clear which side the club is on. Reads just as much as Russian propaganda as anything else.

Compared to all this, football means very little and I am getting more and more uncomfortable with our ownership by the second.

Oh f**k off. No sorry, I was prepared to make an in-depth reply ripping your post to shreds, but no. Just f**k off.

It’s bad enough when every band-wagon jumping, Chelsea hating, scapegoat-seeking moron and his retarded uncle comes out with crap like this, but for someone describing himself as a Chelsea fan to do likewise simply beggars belief.

Russian propaganda? f**king do one.

 

4 minutes ago, Upsetter said:

Oh f**k off. No sorry, I was prepared to make an in-depth reply ripping your post to shreds, but no. Just f**k off.

It’s bad enough when every band-wagon jumping, Chelsea hating, scapegoat-seeking moron and his retarded uncle comes out with crap like this, but for someone describing himself as a Chelsea fan to do likewise simply beggars belief.

Russian propaganda? f**king do one.

 

You don't reckon we should actually condemn the invasion and killing of thousands of innocent lives if we make a statement? 

Either we do that or we shut the hell up and say nothing at all. And we'd be far better off for it if we did in this case.

Edited February 27, 20224 yr by Sindre

1 minute ago, Sindre said:

You don't reckon we should actually condemn the invasion and killing of thousands of innocent lives if we make a statement? 

Either we do that or we shut the hell up and say nothing at all. And we'd be far better off for it if we did in that case.

Luckily your options hold no weight in the matter. The club said they want peace, thats good enough for me. Dont know why you are baying for blood.

11 minutes ago, Sindre said:

You don't reckon we should actually condemn the invasion and killing of thousands of innocent lives if we make a statement? 

Either we do that or we shut the hell up and say nothing at all. And we'd be far better off for it if we did in this case.

Ok, let’s go through this again, shall we.

The situation in Ukraine is horrific and devastating. Chelsea FC’s thoughts are with everyone in Ukraine. Everyone at the club is praying for peace.

”Horrific and devastating”. For those three words alone to be considered inadequately condemnatory, takes either a piss-poor grasp of the English language or a blind willingness to cast the club statement in as poor a light as possible. Or both.

Likewise, The club’s thoughts are with everyone in Ukraine… everyone is praying for peace, is apparently not good enough for you either.

The situation in Ukraine is horrific, it is devastating; the majority of the sane world are praying for peace. There is no earthly need to add further explanation or further detail.

What you (willingly?) fail to realise is that the club are in a no-win situation. A longer statement could quite easily have been read as an attempt to over-compensate b the anti-Chelsea hordes. To say nothing be gleefully seized upon as evidence of all the bile that’s been directed at the club by any number of individuals, including the likes of yourself.

I’m not going to take this ‘discussion’ with you any further. It’s pointless. 

38 minutes ago, Sindre said:

You don't reckon we should actually condemn the invasion and killing of thousands of innocent lives if we make a statement? 

Either we do that or we shut the hell up and say nothing at all. And we'd be far better off for it if we did in this case.

No Roman should of done that.

12 minutes ago, coco said:

No Roman should of done that.

I agree.

The one-two moves of handing over 'custody' of Chelsea and then the club making a statement on Ukraine is Roman distancing himself from Chelsea as much as possible so to not drag our name through the mud.

It's a business decision to protect the brand, nothing more.

9 hours ago, Valerie said:

The question whether or not Abramovich supports Putin may be indirectly answered in this interesting article in the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify

So let's forget that Roman is Jewish but let's focus on the current Ukranian president who we support regardless of what he does because after all, he's against Russia... The double standards are crazy at this point.

4 hours ago, LlanCFC said:

It's not true that Russians and Ukrainians speak the same language, Ukrainian has branched off the same tree as Russian yes, but they've developed quite differently. Dutch, Afrikaans, German and English have branched off the same tree, but they're quite different languages and cultures. Kiev have been forcing Russian speakers in Donbass to teach children through the medium of Ukrainian not Russian. Donbass has NEVER been a Ukrainian majority speaking area, neither has Crimea. Crimea and Donbass are Russian. There are areas of Latvia and Estonia where children are taught through the medium of Russian, but there they haven't been killed by Latvians for doing so; Kiev has used force, aggression and violence to change the language spoken by ppl in Donbass. #MinorityEuropeanLanguagesMatter #CymruAmByth #ScottishIndependence #Kernow (Apparently J Cundy's paternal side come from Cornwall).  

That's the reason of the conflict. Ukraine has been a very divided country and the events of 2014 showed that Russians in Eastern Ukraine were suffering heavy abuse, after that Crimea voted to not be a part of Ukraine any longer but conflicts in the other areas where there are millions of Russians living didn't stop. Putin was silent till that point and then Ukraine's efforts to get weapons from NATO triggered Russia to this move, after all there are millions of Russians in Ukraine that don't want Ukraine to turn their backs towards Russia and Putin has said a long time ago that Russia won't tolerate any further NATO expansion towards his border but it seems like nobody cared. 

This is being turned into a Chelsea vs the rest scenario now, just because the media and some pundits hate us. f**k em

 

 

Apparently (from the Telegraph) the Chelsea Foundation trustees have not yet agreed to take stewardship of the club.

Concerns include whether running a football club as part of the foundation could be compatible with charity law, if some sort of new entity would therefore need to be created, who they would ultimately be answerable to, questions of liability over future decisions and not simply wanting to act or be seen as a front for Abramovich.

Not even a free kick for an elbow in the face? Think we know what’s going in here today….

wrong thread or is it?

Edited February 27, 20224 yr by The Brit

16 minutes ago, The Brit said:

Not even a free kick for an elbow in the face? Think we know what’s going in here today….

wrong thread or is it?

A bit 

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

That's the reason of the conflict. Ukraine has been a very divided country and the events of 2014 showed that Russians in Eastern Ukraine were suffering heavy abuse, after that Crimea voted to not be a part of Ukraine any longer but conflicts in the other areas where there are millions of Russians living didn't stop. Putin was silent till that point and then Ukraine's efforts to get weapons from NATO triggered Russia to this move, after all there are millions of Russians in Ukraine that don't want Ukraine to turn their backs towards Russia and Putin has said a long time ago that Russia won't tolerate any further NATO expansion towards his border but it seems like nobody cared. 

Correct, America didn't tolerate Cuba having Russian missiles and took the world to the brink of a nuclear war.

I disagree with the invasion, but America and NATO has encouraged Ukraine to take a hard line on joining and the introduction of American military on Russia's border .   and then when the inevitable happens we only offer statements and gestures while their civilians suffer 

6 hours ago, Dean said:

Come on. Don’t buy into that narrative, a favourite among useful idiots outside Russia, usually on the extreme left. It’s BS. If NATO has indeed had an aggressive expansion plan (it hasn’t), ask yourself why that might be. Look at the former Soviet countries Putin has caused the most trouble in or invaded: Georgia, Ukraine (both not members of NATO). Look where he HASN’T invaded: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania (all NATO members). Coincidence? Think he wouldn’t have tried if they weren’t in NATO?. It’s pretty clear who the aggressor is. Sometimes it’s best to default to Occam’s razor.

Yup, while Ukraine isn't a member and if it joins there will be American military on the border, that would be the time to invade wouldn't it ?

what was America's reaction to Cuba having Russian missiles in the 60s ?

Biden and his son have previous in Ukraine too, aggression is unacceptable, but to understand it is better than just blindly accepting the narrative.

I'm done with this anyway, come on you BLUES!

 

"Roman, There is some old man called Ken at the front door, and he is has a pound coin in his hand. Should I invite him in?"

2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

That's the reason of the conflict. Ukraine has been a very divided country and the events of 2014 showed that Russians in Eastern Ukraine were suffering heavy abuse, after that Crimea voted to not be a part of Ukraine any longer but conflicts in the other areas where there are millions of Russians living didn't stop. Putin was silent till that point and then Ukraine's efforts to get weapons from NATO triggered Russia to this move, after all there are millions of Russians in Ukraine that don't want Ukraine to turn their backs towards Russia and Putin has said a long time ago that Russia won't tolerate any further NATO expansion towards his border but it seems like nobody cared. 

Wrong.