f**king Solskjaer has been on the job for a minute and he took him to school today.

I thought the players put in a decent shift tonight yet Utd defended also when we crossed it didn't find it's target.

Not sure where we go from here, looks like we will lose the League Cup which will leave the Europa and trying to get into the top 4 which looks unlikely.

For me Jorginho  is too limited in his all round game to be a regular and especially in these big matches, 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Brutos said:

 

I fully behind Sarri 100% but he needs to try something different because we are very easy to play against. Tonight the players actually tried but even if United didn't score we wouldn't have scored we just wouldn't thats the problem that even when the players are trying the system is easy to counter

 

I'm finding it hard to forgive Sarri for his Teresa May like persistence with a failing approach. Using Kante - our best defensive midfielder as they guy who has to give us forward impetus is mad and he's only doing it to force Jorginho's position into the team. and Jorginho just isn't cutting it in England, he's ok but he's not good enough 

1 minute ago, FRANKIE66 said:

Zidane NOW! If the players f**k up he will head but them!! Terry as Number 2! Zola is a legendary player but mediocre as a coach or manager, sorry to say hes out of his depth as is Sarri!

I too have lost faith in Sarri. He seems to be out of his depth, has no plan B and other teams have worked out how to play against us. His substitutions are predictable, especially his reluctance to give Hudson-Odoi a chance.

However, above all I blame Abramovich, as investment in the team has been lacking for several years now. Has he given up on Chelsea? If so then ffs sell up. Zidane has already, allegedly, made demands that he has a big transfer kitty before he would consider taking the job and I suspect any potential manager would be crazy not to do likewise. The board demand top 4 but don’t back the manager. Spend f**k all but expect miracles? No wonder we’re no longer competing with the top 3.

Just now, enigma said:

Try something different like what? The players aren't good enough. A formation change isn't going to help. We have played under a defensive coach, people said it was boring and we need attacking coach, we get an attacking coach and people are saying it's not good enough.

I am really confused. The top three clubs in the league have showed faith and patience in their managers. Arsenal will most likely show faith in Emery. 

All theses managers are proactive and will change formation/tactics at the 1st sign of danger. Even in Pep’s first season when he was losing games, he threw the kitchen sink at the opposition; playing with 5/6 attacking players. You can’t be chasing games and not change the shape of your team. The Zappacosta sub was just ridiculous.

i can not believe any body is still backing sarri after this

I am sick of the managers using transfers as an excuse. Blaming someone else signing them. Dont take the job if you want to handle transfers. Sarri in fairness hasnt used that excuse YET but there is so much he is doing wrong that Chelsea need to change. 

7 minutes ago, Brutos said:

I fully behind Sarri 100%

Sorry mate, I truly believe you are flogging a dead horse.

10 minutes ago, enigma said:

And when Zidane doesn't get results? 

I think there's more to it than not getting results.

We are not playing well at all and Sarri has shown nothing in regards to being able to adapt even slightly to change our fortunes.

If we were making progress or Sarri was trying something different to turn this around I'm sure we'd all be happier but it's the same week in and week out  regardless of how bad the result was or how poor our performance.

Edited February 18, 20197 yr by DukesOfHazard

32 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

As much as I hate him what we could do with an in form Pogba in midfield.

He'd never get in team, no one gets in front Jorginiho!!

13 minutes ago, Luca Vialli said:

How on earth did we go those fifteen games unbeaten at the start of the season? What happened?

 

Managers other than Sarri have this ability I hear is called "learning".

Soak up the pressure, don't let yourself get exposed. Every 15 minutes of pointless passing around the box, we make a mistake and give the ball away dangerously, pounce on that and get an unimpeded run on our goal.

2 minutes ago, luckywerthers said:

i can not believe any body is still backing sarri after this

you're forgetting Mrs Sarri and his mother...........

9 minutes ago, enigma said:

What manager do people want? As soon as the first sign of problems everyone is calling for the manager's head. When does it stop and the coach is backed?

People keep talking about wanting long term stability, but this fickleness shows they don't. No coach is gonna want to stay long term if the club themselves can't commit. 

We all want stability and for the manager to be backed, but we can't just back any coach. If they aren't good enough, then it would be stupid to back them. There were better coach's in the past that we should have backed, like Conte, Mourinho and Ancelotti. Sarri looks out of his depth, just like AVB and Scolari.

I'm not sure who we could bring in right now that would turn us around though. It's not just the manager that looks out of his depth, the players do too, and I'm not sure there is a coach out there that can turn this group around.

Thing I forgot to mention earlier was after praising the ref first half think he bottled sending off Matic in the 2nd.

6 minutes ago, enigma said:

Try something different like what? The players aren't good enough. A formation change isn't going to help. We have played under a defensive coach, people said it was boring and we need attacking coach, we get an attacking coach and people are saying it's not good enough.

I am really confused. The top three clubs in the league have showed faith and patience in their managers. Arsenal will most likely show faith in Emery. 

Ah just give it a rest for once. Dont you have an off switch. I dont think anyones in the mood for your constant Sarri worshipping without any shred of evidence to back it up. 

We arent an attacking team. If you think for 4 months struggling to get goals and barely having any shots on target is attacking, then help us all. Every single game we can name the starting lineup to a man, and we can name every sub. Its so predictable its unreal.

Hudson odois treatmemt has gone from a joke to outrageous now. Our best defender in Christensen never gets decent gametime, and our slow defence gets torn apart. He blames the players when we lose, and when we win then its his football. Ive had enough for a long time now. Our play the majority of the time is boring, hes so predictable, hes alienating all our young talents, and our season is falling apart. We have now lost at home, and never once in that second half did we look like scoring. Those substitutions were disgraceful.

I came here wanting to ask for a live stream. Now i am afraid to ask !!! 

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16 minutes ago, enigma said:

Try something different like what? The players aren't good enough. A formation change isn't going to help. We have played under a defensive coach, people said it was boring and we need attacking coach, we get an attacking coach and people are saying it's not good enough.

I am really confused. The top three clubs in the league have showed faith and patience in their managers. Arsenal will most likely show faith in Emery. 

Six out of eleven starters today won the title only two years ago. No-one expected Sarri to mount a title challenge, but the top four spot was quite a realistic goal. We don't have the squad to compete for the title but we are a whole lot better than what we've seen under Sarri so far.

Ranieri won the league with Kante, Mahrez, Vardy and a bunch of midtable dross. It's called managing your squad, motivating them and realizing their potential to the fullest. Sarri knows f**k all about that. If we had another 90 minutes after the final whistle we'd still spend it passing the ball around.

Edited February 18, 20197 yr by abramovich

I think Sarri should name exactly the same side against City. That way, they'll be laughing so hard at the kick off we'll be able to dance round them and score 2 or 3 before they know what's hit them. 

16 minutes ago, enigma said:

Try something different like what? The players aren't good enough. A formation change isn't going to help. We have played under a defensive coach, people said it was boring and we need attacking coach, we get an attacking coach and people are saying it's not good enough.

I am really confused. The top three clubs in the league have showed faith and patience in their managers. Arsenal will most likely show faith in Emery. 

Unfortunately you can't polish a turd

The issues started with Abramovich and his Visa. If you think about it rumours began beginning of Contes last season and the Jan 2018 transfer window was when conte began spitting his dummy. It appears as some have said that Romans reigns have slackened and whoever is vetoing the transfer policy has made a pigs ear of it. Conte lost the plot last season and we finished 10th and I wont be surprised if we need to qualify for Europe through a cup rather then league position as we did last season. Wolves can catch us on their current form and I cant see us winning a cup on current form. Abramovich has to take control again and get the board in order and go again preferably with Zidane and maybe JT number 2 or at least involved. Clear out Gorginho , Willian ,Hazard ( bear in mind hes playing for his Real Madrid shirt next season) and give Zidane control of signings and rebuild.

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

We all want stability and for the manager to be backed, but we can't just back any coach. If they aren't good enough, then it would be stupid to back them. There were better coach's in the past that we should have backed, like Conte, Mourinho and Ancelotti. Sarri looks out of his depth, just like AVB and Scolari.

I'm not sure who we could bring in right now that would turn us around though. It's not just the manager that looks out of his depth, the players do too, and I'm not sure there is a coach out there that can turn this group around.

I think we were all prepared for pain and a period of hard times whilst a new style was bedded in with a new group of players to take us into the future, perhaps with Hazard and Kante forming part of that spine. Providing we could see the shoots of a new era beginning and a new pattern. To me it looks virtually the same team as Conte yet somehow less competitive with no sight of any plan or pattern for the future.

I don't care who is the manager. We have a team chocked full of players incapable or unwilling to change, that are either not good enough or do not fit the age model for the next five years. Whoever we have in charge needs to take us to a new place with a new team for the future, but we must be able to see the signs of development.

Its not the getting beat or outplayed that f**ks me off, its the fact that i cannot see any direction at all.

1 minute ago, abramovich said:

Six out of eleven starters today won the title only two years ago. No-one expected Sarri to mount a title challenge, but the top four spot was quite a realistic goal. We don't have the squad to compete for the title but we are a whole lot better than what we've seen under Sarri so far.

Ranieri won the league with Kante, Mahrez, Vardy and a bunch of midtable dross. It's called managing your squad, motivating them and realizing their potential to the fullest. Sarri knows f**k all about that. If we had anothe 90 minutes after the final whistle we'd still spend it passing the ball around.

Indeed. And the 7th and 8th are the managers men in Jorgiho and Higuain.

2 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:

We’re unbeaten in our last 5 against United in the FA Cup - bad omen that

Do you remember when Arsenal had 2 sets of fans WENGER-OUT! fans and the WENGER-IN! fans ? The same thing is happening at Chelsea. I think one set is not going to convince of the other so it is best to just not even bother arguing.

Have Utd ever had an easier win against chelsea?

Not at the bridge..never