5 hours ago, Term_X said:

Linked with Man-City as well now, imagine that.. 😅 that is definitely a throwing a pigs head at him Luis Figo style worthy reaction if it actually went down, jeez..

There is not a side put there that would not improve their right flank by signing Reece James. They would be stupid not to try just as we would be stupid to sell.

Christ the media are really trying to make this non-story a thing aren’t they. He’s going absolutely nowhere let alone to Man City, it’s about as insane as the Man Utd wanting Mason Mount story. Because the new owners haven’t offered them new contracts 5 minutes after they bought the club suddenly there’s an issue despite Mason having 2 years left and Reece having 3 years left on their current deals.

It's no surprise all the big teams are interested in the best RB in the world, luckily we're a selling club on our own terms. It's not like a Rudiger/Christensen/Hazard/Courtois type scenario where he has one or no years left on his contract and he has a true love for the club, not a continental player. 

i heard he's linked with Mongolian champions Athletic 220 FC 

according to reports they will offer him 450K a week and a 70 million sign on bonus 

 

……but seriously, James doesn't strike me as one of those mercenaries. He comes across as a modest well adjusted human being, surely he will be loyal if we give him a good deal 

Edited June 10, 20224 yr by azpi28

5 hours ago, azpi28 said:

i heard he's linked with Mongolian champions Athletic 220 FC 

according to reports they will offer him 450K a week and a 70 million sign on bonus 

 

……but seriously, James doesn't strike me as one of those mercenaries. He comes across as a modest well adjusted human being, surely he will be loyal if we give him a good deal 

It’s not really case of him being mercenary. We have a seriously unbalanced wage bill, each month that goes by without a new deal,Lukaku is earning a cool £1m gross more than Reece! There is talk of out interest in bringing Sterling in, who is on 300k per week. Something that would add to the wage disparity. The lads coming through from the academy shouldn’t be disadvantaged,otherwise they may be tempted by clubs offering riches. Pay him what he’s worth. 

2 minutes ago, charierre said:

It’s not really case of him being mercenary. We have a seriously unbalanced wage bill, each month that goes by without a new deal,Lukaku is earning a cool £1m gross more than Reece! There is talk of out interest in bringing Sterling in, who is on 300k per week. Something that would add to the wage disparity. The lads coming through from the academy shouldn’t be disadvantaged,otherwise they may be tempted by clubs offering riches. Pay him what he’s worth. 

it's really difficult to get a balanced wage bill, you will have to be willing to lose out on a lot of players for relatively minor difference in salary

if you're paying 80 million for a new player a wage difference of 2.6 million a year (difference between 150k and 200K a week contract) is minor, are you going to cancel the deal for that extra 2.5 million you will have to pay? surely not 

 

26 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

it's really difficult to get a balanced wage bill, you will have to be willing to lose out on a lot of players for relatively minor difference in salary

if you're paying 80 million for a new player a wage difference of 2.6 million a year (difference between 150k and 200K a week contract) is minor, are you going to cancel the deal for that extra 2.5 million you will have to pay? surely not 

 

So you risk losing your own academy product. Loyalty goes both ways. ‘He’s a good lad who won’t ruffle any feather’ will only go so far.

18 minutes ago, charierre said:

So you risk losing your own academy product. Loyalty goes both ways. ‘He’s a good lad who won’t ruffle any feather’ will only go so far.

i dont really expect any problems, surely they will offer him around 150 to 200k which is a good offer 

7 hours ago, azpi28 said:

i dont really expect any problems, surely they will offer him around 150 to 200k which is a good offer 

If I'm Reece that's a sh*t offer.

If you won't sell me for 100m pounds you should be paying me at least 300k a week.

9 hours ago, Whiskyjack said:

If I'm Reece that's a sh*t offer.

If you won't sell me for 100m pounds you should be paying me at least 300k a week.

you don't offer a player a 5X salary increase just because you don't want to sell him

like i said before, if he doesn't want to accept 200k a week let him just run out his contract on a measly 60k a week

that's 156 weeks where he could be earning 140K extra

that's 22 million 

so yeah he can force his little transfer to madrid 

but he will be already -22 million 

to put your nose up for a 200k a week contract while you only played 3 seasons at a high level is insane

 

 

Edited June 11, 20224 yr by azpi28

14 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

o put your nose up for a 200k a week contract while you only played 3 seasons at a high level is insane

It isn't when he can almost certainly get double that at City & Real Madrid. 

 

34 minutes ago, Sindre said:

It isn't when he can almost certainly get double that at City & Real Madrid. 

 

 

he can't get that because we won't sell him. so then he would have to run out his contract on 58k a week till 2025

there are too many hypotheticals

if we would sell him, if those 2 clubs can afford to pay that price (man city probably can, but i don't think madrid can), if reecey wants to play for Man City and live in Manchester. And if they are willing to pay him 400k a week. 

also we don't have to sell him, we don't need desperately the 100 million

what is stopping us from giving him a contract extension with 200k a week and extending his contract again in 2024 two years before the end of his new 2026 or 2027 deal?? In that new new deal we can offer him 300k 

if we offer him 300k now why would he ever sign a new deal again???? then we would have to offer him 400k 

 

honestly i don't really care how much we pay him as long as he stays for a long time, this is purely rational ^^^^ 

 

Edited June 11, 20224 yr by azpi28

Offering £300k a week to a player we already have on £58k a week would be absolute mental behaviour. 

6 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Offering £300k a week to a player we already have on £58k a week would be absolute mental behaviour. 

£200k/w for a 23yr old is even mental. Utd offered Rashford a £250k/w contract after he scored 17 league goals 2 seasons ago, amidst rumoured interest from Madrid (usually agents been mischievous). He hasn’t been the same player ever since. If you offered them £50m now they will snap your fingers off, issue is no one is interested because of his ridiculous wages.

Trent & Hakimi’s contract are what you would use as a yardstick for his contract. They are on £180k, & £170k respectively. For me a £175k/w contract for both him and Mount is very decent, that will put them on around 3x their old contracts. That will have them both at 5th highest earners in the club, and fingers crossed if the club moves on the trio of Lukaku, Werner & Azpi, they will both just be behind Kante & Chiwell.

We should be trying to move on the underperformers on big wages, not trying to move other players on those ridiculous wages to reward them. At  26yrs; they will both be due their £200k/w+ contract if everything works out .

Also proved his versatility at Left back for England tonight, and didn't embarras himself, still think he'll be brilliant in Midfield

6 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

Also proved his versatility at Left back for England tonight, and didn't embarras himself, still think he'll be brilliant in Midfield

In perfect world we have three Reece. One for either flank and one more in midfield. 

Liverpool players get rested because theyve played soooo many games, ours play every game, even shifted totally out of position for some reason.

RLC should watch Reece, he just seems to apply himself that much better, he is so f**king silky on the ball. Seems effortless, Alonso is similar, and Hazard had it easily, should be our future captain

On 11/06/2022 at 11:43, Sindre said:

It isn't when he can almost certainly get double that at City & Real Madrid. 

 

I'm so thankful we don't have you in charge of contract negotiations lmao. We'd end up like Utd or Barca in no time with these kind of contract negotiations. Give Reece and Mason £150k p/w with a decent loyalty bonus and all is good. 

7 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

I'm so thankful we don't have you in charge of contract negotiations lmao

I would surely have done a better job than Marina. Highest wage bill in the league and a completely unbalanced wage-bill where some of the poorest performers are earning the most while our actual stars are earning pennies comparably.

Timo Werner of all people is earning £300k a week. In what world should Mount or James accept to earn less than him? At the £150k a week you suggest they would earn less than bloody Kepa. Or about the same Drinkwater collected from the club every single week for five years 😄

Yep and I bet both Werner and Drinkwater lose respect as they don't deliver and like Drinkwater expect Werner to go on loan if not sold.

25 minutes ago, Sindre said:

 

Timo Werner of all people is earning £300k a week. In what world should Mount or James accept to earn less than him? At the £150k a week you suggest they would earn less than bloody Kepa. Or about the same Drinkwater collected from the club every single week for five years 😄

I understand your line of reasoning, however it would perpetuate our staggering wages bill if lower-paid (but better performing) players get an eye-watering raise, just because underperforming players are on massive wages. Where does it end? If the club wants to cut the overall bill, get rid of the underperforming players (hopefully there are takers) and use performance-related bonuses as an extra.

28 minutes ago, Sindre said:

I would surely have done a better job than Marina. Highest wage bill in the league and a completely unbalanced wage-bill where some of the poorest performers are earning the most while our actual stars are earning pennies comparably.

 😄

That is the case at every major club.

We don't have the highest wage bill in the league. By any measure we are in the top 4 at similar amounts spent to city pool and united. 

1 hour ago, Sindre said:

I would surely have done a better job than Marina. Highest wage bill in the league and a completely unbalanced wage-bill where some of the poorest performers are earning the most while our actual stars are earning pennies comparably.

Timo Werner of all people is earning £300k a week. In what world should Mount or James accept to earn less than him? At the £150k a week you suggest they would earn less than bloody Kepa. Or about the same Drinkwater collected from the club every single week for five years 😄

So your answer to our high wage bill is to spend even more money? Like i said, glad you're not in charge!

James is a class act. Did very well to keep Son quiet in the first half and was dangerous up front when he was moved to wingback. Should have had an assist on top of his goal. His mix of physicality and technique is unique. It seems impossible to get the ball off him.