2 hours ago, Mário César said:

don't deserve a raise in his salary and probably will go to liverpool because they need a new midfielder

he can go. don't bother me too much and we need to get some money from the sales and he is playing like sh*t. very very limited player 

I like me but not good enough in a long term view 

Yeah have heard Mount linked a few times to Liverpool. Fee most often mentioned is 30mill.

Rice seems like he may go to United for clear of 100mill if the new owners come through.

Fallen off a cliff this season cash in if he is asking for too much.

9 hours ago, STATS said:

I could already envisage him going Liverpool which would really hurt me but one team where you think he could easily fit into and provides much needed energy in that team. I pray not but yeah, probably will play in a more fixed position also. 

They don’t want him though; Klopp wants Bellingham & Neves. His wage demands are a “no no”. They won’t pay him more than they are paying Trent Alexander.

3 hours ago, ducavis said:

They don’t want him though; Klopp wants Bellingham & Neves. His wage demands are a “no no”. They won’t pay him more than they are paying Trent Alexander.

If he has not signed a contact by January 2024, that may well change.

15 hours ago, abister1 said:

Ah. I see. Getting personal are we?

Tough. Some people can't handle the truth or criticism that indicts them. 

All well and good to point at others, forgetting 4 pointing back

First you use a ridiculous hyperbole, then you blame others for not seeing your true meaning, and deflect the criticism calling you out by saying you've been abroad a few times and therefore know everything about "the" English. That is typical behaviour of an immature person who is unable to sensibly build a case for their opinion, plus it shows a lack of understanding of the mix from which any people is made of. Don't look for job in population research.

23 hours ago, reparto corse said:

Just reading this thread makes me shake my head. There seems to be only two extremes, the ones that see Mount as a god-like figure that will lead us to several PL wins because he is "one of us" and then the ones that don't rate him at all and blame him for everything.

What about some balance? This is not Twitter after all. 

Everyone knows he needs to be dropped and Felix should be starting. Sadly what people don't realise is calling him a tosser and other personal insults is beyond childish and shows a lack of mental growth.

18 hours ago, abister1 said:

Of course not every one of them, should I say some English? 

Would that make you feel better even if I lose the essence of my point? 

We protect our own rightfully or wrongfully compared to how we do them foreigners. I am English by the way. Nothing to see here.

Being well travelled over the course of my life, across different continents worldwide, and not on holidays but immersed in lifestyle and cultures probably helps me be less centred about being a brit. 

No apologies about my honest observations and point. 

You lose the essence of your point because you never had one without hyperbole. 

I too am very well travelled and immersed in lifestyles and cultures and couldn't disagree with you more. 

Mount is  a good player out of form. He did need to grow beyond even his previous best form to become a nailed on starter in a top team. 

Specifically: If he is an attacker he needs more assists and goals. This was the season where those numbers should have gone up based on say Lampard's progression but they've gone down. Equally he lacks the speed to be a winger although often played either wide left or worse wide right.

If he's an attacking midfield he needs to do more defence and basic link up play, he doesn't mostly do the water carrying work in the defensive half. 

What I see is someone who provides link up play in attack, sometimes clever link up play and that's an important job but is it enough when the competition is a Felix, or Stirling or Mudryk? Maybe it depends on the system.
 

Booing him or criticising him for modelling clothes is very poor form. Notwithstanding these guys are paid a fortune and dont really deserve sympathy under most circumstances the fact is he's a chelsea player trying to do his best for the team and himself. And the same in the last bit goes for Cucu and went for Jorginho as well. Yet the crowd is ever capable of showing its nasty side. Hero to zero in less than a season I guess thats the life of the pro footballer.

Mount is just going to have to earn a starting place, perhaps it may even come against Dortmund although he wouldn't be in my starting 11.

7 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Everyone knows he needs to be dropped and Felix should be starting. Sadly what people don't realise is calling him a tosser and other personal insults is beyond childish and shows a lack of mental growth.

True but you have to admit, those trousers were shocking 

9 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

True but you have to admit, those trousers were shocking 

I'm just thankful we don't have Calvert Lewin leading our line, until someone wears what he does we're okay

9 hours ago, Valerie said:

That is typical behaviour of an immature person who is unable to sensibly build a case for their opinion, plus it shows a lack of understanding of the mix from which any people is made of.

Please don’t lump all immature idiots it together, some of us are alright. 

Honestly it might be best to sell whilst he's still somewhat highly rated, otherwise his value might drop too much with his contract expiring soon as well.

 

Mount is definitely in a sink or swim situation for the rest of the season. He's surrounded by quality and isn't guaranteed to start anymore. If he manages to force his way back into this team then fair play to him, I just can't see him doing it unless there's an injury to Felix because they are levels apart in my opinion.

I really don't know what will happen with him to be honest, I'll take the report with a pinch of salt but let's assume he wants £240k a week, there's no chance we should be paying him that but I think the club would be reluctant to sell him.

10 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Honestly it might be best to sell whilst he's still somewhat highly rated, otherwise his value might drop too much with his contract expiring soon as well.

Sounds like the value of some of our key players is going down under Potter doesn't it?

2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Sounds like the value of some of our key players is going down under Potter doesn't it?

Can't blame Potter for Mount underperforming, he's been like that pretty much since Xmas 2021, even to the point he was dropped at the World Cup by Southgate 

would happily sell him to liverpool if they offered anything above 35-40m. academy product as well so helps massively with FFP, as will the sales of gallagher and chalobah who will fetch good prices. 

I always felt people were heavily overrating mount, he was always poor at making passes in the final 3rd and was always known more for his work rate and passion on the pitch more so than technical ability. 

Even if you do a breakdown of his "great stats" from 19/20 and 20/21, you will notice that the majority of those "chances created" and "assists" came from taking 99% of the set pieces we had, whether it was a corner or free kick. compare that to his open play assists, and he has FAR FAR fewer. And when you take into account teams that aren't battling relegation (norwich, watford etc) his stats are even scarier and massively inflated. 

Reece James is a true blue and one that is genuinely class, one of the best (if not THE best) in his respective position in the world. Mount meanwhile is nowhere near that level and sadly never will be

7 minutes ago, DeadfaLLostomy said:

would happily sell him to liverpool if they offered anything above 35-40m. academy product as well so helps massively with FFP, as will the sales of gallagher and chalobah who will fetch good prices. 

I always felt people were heavily overrating mount, he was always poor at making passes in the final 3rd and was always known more for his work rate and passion on the pitch more so than technical ability. 

Even if you do a breakdown of his "great stats" from 19/20 and 20/21, you will notice that the majority of those "chances created" and "assists" came from taking 99% of the set pieces we had, whether it was a corner or free kick. compare that to his open play assists, and he has FAR FAR fewer. And when you take into account teams that aren't battling relegation (norwich, watford etc) his stats are even scarier and massively inflated. 

Reece James is a true blue and one that is genuinely class, one of the best (if not THE best) in his respective position in the world. Mount meanwhile is nowhere near that level and sadly never will be

Dominated Spanish champions Madrid, English champions City and Italian champions Milan in Europe. Got MOTM in a 45 minute appearance against the Italian champions too. Lets not act like he's some flat track bully that only ever performed against minnows. 

1 minute ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Dominated Spanish champions Madrid, English champions City and Italian champions Milan in Europe. Got MOTM in a 45 minute appearance against the Italian champions too. Lets not act like he's some flat track bully that only ever performed against minnows. 

you use words like "dominating" way too flippantly. I wouldnt say he was dominating in any of those appearances, but despite getting a goal or assist here and there, i wouldnt say his overall performance over 90 minutes was anything special, outside of his usual pressing and work rate related metrics.

I just dont see where he fits into the team, and especially for the wages that he wants. Reece James is definitely worth the 250k hes on, but Mount is nowhere near that imho

4 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Can't blame Potter for Mount underperforming, he's been like that pretty much since Xmas 2021, even to the point he was dropped at the World Cup by Southgate 

Well, true story...

55 minutes ago, DeadfaLLostomy said:

you use words like "dominating" way too flippantly. I wouldnt say he was dominating in any of those appearances, but despite getting a goal or assist here and there, i wouldnt say his overall performance over 90 minutes was anything special, outside of his usual pressing and work rate related metrics.

I just dont see where he fits into the team, and especially for the wages that he wants. Reece James is definitely worth the 250k hes on, but Mount is nowhere near that imho

MOTM against Milan in just 45 minutes winning a penalty and getting the assist for our other goal of the game.

Would've had MOTM against Madrid had we gone through, highest rated player for Chelsea with a goal that game too. 

Game winning assist against City in the biggest game of his career. 

Mount doesn't want 250k, stop peddling lies. 

42 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

MOTM against Milan in just 45 minutes winning a penalty and getting the assist for our other goal of the game.

Would've had MOTM against Madrid had we gone through, highest rated player for Chelsea with a goal that game too. 

Game winning assist against City in the biggest game of his career. 

Mount doesn't want 250k, stop peddling lies. 

He initially wanted 300k, but after getting laughed out the negotiation room he has now settled for 250k, which is still far too much.

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/mason-mount-chelsea-future-doubt/blt7a4c53dd07d27ecc

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/rumor-chelsea-dealt-massive-blow-contract-talks-superstar-hits-snag-240k-per-week-wage-demands-reports

https://chelseacore.com/chelsea-unwilling-to-match-mason-mounts-demands-of-tripling-his-wages-07022023/

 

In case you think Mount wanting that much is a lie... Been reported numerous times that he wants his current wage trebled to those sort of numbers

Edited February 14, 20233 yr by DeadfaLLostomy

Mount is going thru a prolonged bad patch.

As Rashford was at United.

We know Mount is a good player, I'm sure he'll get back to form eventually, but FFS let's stop the suggestion that he should be given stick by our own fans.

1 hour ago, DeadfaLLostomy said:

you use words like "dominating" way too flippantly. I wouldnt say he was dominating in any of those appearances, but despite getting a goal or assist here and there, i wouldnt say his overall performance over 90 minutes was anything special, outside of his usual pressing and work rate related metrics.

I just dont see where he fits into the team, and especially for the wages that he wants. Reece James is definitely worth the 250k hes on, but Mount is nowhere near that imho

Sterling is on 325k a week, our highest paid player.

I don't blame anyone looking at that and asking for more 

Not sure there is any truth to Mount wanting those wages. I believe all contract talks are on hold for everyone until performances improve, and rightly so. 

Also, for those trying to prove Mount hasn't been poor for a long duration (18-24 months), it doesn't help your case providing examples which shows he only has a dominating performance once every 165 days.