Rudiger is prone to that, it’s so unnecessary when he can just win the ball. It’s reckless and dangerous and he does it quite often. It’s the same with the two legged slide tackles, it’s asking for trouble.

this ref ....

WTF he just carded Tuchel!!!

This ref sucks.  

Tuchel: I may be balding but at least I'm not fully bald!

Jeez just realised TT isn't dressed like a saturday morning Dad, watching his son, quite smart/Cas

5 minutes ago, TomCFC85 said:

Bald refs are a different breed

See!

Definitely a dislocation for Ziyech. Suffered that exact injury in the same way. It looked pretty light though, so I wonder if he's dislocated it in the past as that makes your joint very unstable and more susceptible to dislocation. If he has dislocated it in the past, he could be back in a few weeks. If it's the first dislocation that requires surgery -- it could be awhile. 😐

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

Yellow for Rudi regardless of the fact that he want on the ball first and foremost...

Irrelevant, that was dangerous - there was absolutely no need for it. He could have snapped the boys leg.

2 minutes ago, Vagabond said:

My expert medical opinion is a broken clavicle. But we'll see soon I guess.

2-3 months out?

Just now, Valpo said:

WTF he just carded Tuchel!!!

This ref sucks.  

He is mentored by Anthony Taylor

1 minute ago, Valpo said:

 

How long does a dislocated shoulder keep you out?  

4 to 6 weeks. So if he has dislocated his shoulder, he won't be back until after the first international break. It's like the start of last season all over again.

don't know what Rudi was meant to do there if he was going to win the ball, he was going to make contact with the guy

Tuchel booked too now - think this ref is losing the plot

Just now, Scott Harris said:

4 to 6 weeks. So if he has dislocated his shoulder, he won't be back until after the first international break. It's like the start of last season all over again.

And when he came back he was woeful 

Just now, EdinburghBlue said:

Irrelevant, that was dangerous - there was absolutely no need for it. He could have snapped the boys leg.

He has the need to clear the ball which he had done before any contact, it shouldn't be just his responsibility to avoid contact...

Wow ..  Lucky us

Alonso is borderline world class despite not looking it. At times

fuuucking hell

Wow that was close.

Half time whistle is welcome. The injury and Rudiger's yellow card distrupted our game.

2 minutes ago, mojo said:

2-3 months out?

12 weeks usually, yes.

f**k me, that was lucky for us! We’ve lost control of the match at the end.

Hopefully TT can give us a kick up the backside, the last 10 minutes or so we were more than once lucky not to concede.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

He has the need to clear the ball which he had done before any contact, it shouldn't be just his responsibility to avoid contact...

If you’ve played football, you know fine well that he did not need to do that. If that was on Havertz at the other end, this board would be going mental about it and rightfully so.

2 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

And when he came back he was woeful 

That was after his second injury. When he came back after his first one, he was great. Any injury before the season starts is bad though, it can completely mess up your season.

Well he's twatted that