1 minute ago, Kev56 said:

He'll shine out there.

Think it would be a good move for him and us Kev.

3 minutes ago, just said:

Think it would be a good move for him and us Kev.

Us, as in me and you?  I'm a married man mate. 

Edited June 25, 20233 yr by Kev56

27 minutes ago, Kev56 said:

He'll shine out there.

Spot actually. If some these clubs can stump up the fees, these younger players will be on workable wages, and I think it would be a great move for him.

We'll have hardly any CM left if he leaves.

I think we should keep him to be honest, give him a season to work under a proper manager like Pochettino to improve him I think he could be a very good player.

We are very thin in midfield so, unless we bring in some new players or he wants to move now, I’d keep him. He’ll improve under Pochettino.

4 hours ago, just said:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22790987/conor-gallagher-transfer-chelsea-bellingham-borussia-dortmund/

50mill? I don't see Dortmund doing that, is not their business model. 

Maybe 25mill

I also think he should stay. He's dedicared and a workhorse. Im sure he will also improve 

Edited June 25, 20233 yr by NestorGarde

At least he wants to be here, unlike quite a few others.

I like him too

Just clocked he’s been dying his hair blonde this whole time, thought it was the opposite. 

I like the lad, I think we all do. But he just isn't Chelsea material, he's definitely someone who's massively improved in a quick period of time though so who knows, hopefully the Dortmund move does wonders for him because I genuinely do wish him all the best.

I'm not convinced that if he stays here he's going to get any better so the best we can do right now is sell him as right now will be the best price we can get. 

I would keep him for another season at least. He's not going to be world class ( every few are in this team), but he's committed and got a few goals in him. There's no guarantee we will get a better player to replace him, with so many players being sold this summer, last thing we need is to push out  someone who's willing to stay and work.

On 24/06/2023 at 14:06, WhiteWall said:

That's an easy comment to make but I am not sure how you justify that. Far from it actually,  we apparently have been stockpiling some of the finest young talent from Europe and South America. How are these players to make their mark if inferior players are not moved to make space for them to flourish. 

I personally think Gallagher is a solid enough midfielder but just not good enough for where we want to be. If moving Gallagher on gave us an opportunity to see more of Carney or Casadei, Santos or Hutchinson, or any of these talents that are knocking on the door, then I would be more than happy with that.

We are also starting to run a bit light of good solid pros, in their prime to add balance. If we can move on some of our big earners and bring in a couple of reasonably priced, solid 28-30 year olds I would be more than happy.

If you think that these kids are ready then selling Conor is fine. But you have to be sure they are ready because they will be the 1st midfielder off the bench (I assume we will sign a midfielder). What you don't want is to sell Conor and you end up signing another backup midfielder in January. 

 

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

If you think that these kids are ready then selling Conor is fine. But you have to be sure they are ready because they will be the 1st midfielder off the bench (I assume we will sign a midfielder). What you don't want is to sell Conor and you end up signing another backup midfielder in January. 

 

If we get 45 - 50m for Gallagher before 30th June its a bit of a no brained. Even if we do need to get further reinforcements later we would have dug ourselves out of this particular hole

1 hour ago, WhiteWall said:

If we get 45 - 50m for Gallagher before 30th June its a bit of a no brained. Even if we do need to get further reinforcements later we would have dug ourselves out of this particular hole

If we need further reinforcement then we are screwed. Unless you are lucky you will end up with the likes of zappacosta/drinkwater. 

You can always sign another 100m midfielder as rotation option but then what is the point of having cassiddei, Santos or chuku. Furthermore, you can't spend another 100m on midifelder when you have kepa as your gk. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 26, 20233 yr by Bob stark

2 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

If we get 45 - 50m for Gallagher before 30th June its a bit of a no brained. Even if we do need to get further reinforcements later we would have dug ourselves out of this particular hole

Max figures I've seen is £40m. Let's think about this a bit more as I'm probably a bit more attached to him as he's an academy player. 

Say we keep Gallagher for another season and he doesn't impress, how much would we get for him next summer? £20m? If he does play well, then maybe probably a bit less as less time on contract so let's say £30m. 

I don't think we should sacrifice our depth (and experience) for the sake of for the sake of an extra 20 or 10 million. Especially not when we've already sold most of our high earners now and Mount seems to be going too. 

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

If we need further reinforcement then we are screwed. Unless you are lucky you will end up with the likes of zappacosta/drinkwater. 

You can always sign another 100m midfielder as rotation option but then what is the point of having cassiddei, Santos or chuku. Furthermore, you can't spend another 100m on midifelder when you have kepa as your gk. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you're saying that the midfielders that we have already got and the youngsters that we have signed, none of these are capable of filling the boots of Gallagher. Sorry, don't agree. I already think that Carney is a better player and hasn't hardly played for us with confidence in keeping his posiiton yet. If Carney gets a run of 6 - 7 geames on the spin so that he knows the position is his for the taking all the tiem he is perfroming, then I think that his improvement and confidence will grow more. 

26 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Max figures I've seen is £40m. Let's think about this a bit more as I'm probably a bit more attached to him as he's an academy player. 

Say we keep Gallagher for another season and he doesn't impress, how much would we get for him next summer? £20m? If he does play well, then maybe probably a bit less as less time on contract so let's say £30m. 

I don't think we should sacrifice our depth (and experience) for the sake of for the sake of an extra 20 or 10 million. Especially not when we've already sold most of our high earners now and Mount seems to be going too. 

But if the FFP deadline is in 4 days, we haven't sold hardly anyone yet. Isn't Koulibaly the only completed deal. If Havertz gets done today and Mount falls out of bed, like it might do, then a sale of Gallagher also gets us over the line and buys us time. It might be unpalateable but the hard facts are that Mount, Gallagher, Maatsen, RLC, and Chalobah all have real value at thsi tiem for FFP purposes. In two weeks time i think it matters less anyway as i was under the impression we had to raise just shy of 100m by 30th June. So far we have raised 20m and i think that might only be break even.

24 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

But if the FFP deadline is in 4 days, we haven't sold hardly anyone yet. Isn't Koulibaly the only completed deal. If Havertz gets done today and Mount falls out of bed, like it might do, then a sale of Gallagher also gets us over the line and buys us time. It might be unpalateable but the hard facts are that Mount, Gallagher, Maatsen, RLC, and Chalobah all have real value at thsi tiem for FFP purposes. In two weeks time i think it matters less anyway as i was under the impression we had to raise just shy of 100m by 30th June. So far we have raised 20m and i think that might only be break even.

I'm assuming the club will sell Havertz, Kovavic, Mount and RLC all before then which there's no reason why they can't do. Even if Mount falls through, selling the other 3 is enough. 

There's no scenario where selling Gallagher is a must so I don't understand why people would want to. Even if you don't rate him, at least give him another chance in a proper team under a proper coach. 

Edited June 26, 20233 yr by Remodez

3 minutes ago, Remodez said:

I'm assuming the club will sell Havertz, Kovavic, Mount and RLC all before then which there's no reason why they can't do. Even if Mount falls through, selling the other 3 is enough. 

I think Havertz and Kovacic could certainly happen over the next day or so as they have had medicals. Mount hasn't even got an agreed fee and i read today that Milan and Chelsea have only just opened talks again over RLC. I would expect that Maatsen, Chalobah and Gallagher are all still very much options for the club up until the deadline.

I think if Mount and Havertz had been done going into this week then the pressure would definitely have been off. I can feel a rinky dink loophole arising so the figure we have to raise is not as big as has been reported, or else there could be a few peopelk sweatign thsi week and not just due to the sun.

26 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I think Havertz and Kovacic could certainly happen over the next day or so as they have had medicals. Mount hasn't even got an agreed fee and i read today that Milan and Chelsea have only just opened talks again over RLC. I would expect that Maatsen, Chalobah and Gallagher are all still very much options for the club up until the deadline.

I think if Mount and Havertz had been done going into this week then the pressure would definitely have been off. I can feel a rinky dink loophole arising so the figure we have to raise is not as big as has been reported, or else there could be a few peopelk sweatign thsi week and not just due to the sun.

I forgot we still have Ziyech and Mendy who will most likely be confirmed in the next few days.

We are fine imo, no need to sell Gallagher. 

1 hour ago, WhiteWall said:

But if the FFP deadline is in 4 days, we haven't sold hardly anyone yet. Isn't Koulibaly the only completed deal. If Havertz gets done today and Mount falls out of bed, like it might do, then a sale of Gallagher also gets us over the line and buys us time. It might be unpalateable but the hard facts are that Mount, Gallagher, Maatsen, RLC, and Chalobah all have real value at thsi tiem for FFP purposes. In two weeks time i think it matters less anyway as i was under the impression we had to raise just shy of 100m by 30th June. So far we have raised 20m and i think that might only be break even.

Its only a soft deadline, pretty much every reputable source has claimed we can still sell for the next few weeks for it. Kovacic, Kai and Mount have nullified all FFP concerns.

With the very deep FFP sh*t Everton are in, plus City's ongoing issues, I suspect we're not going to be a huge priority anyway.

18 hours ago, Term_X said:

Just clocked he’s been dying his hair blonde this whole time, thought it was the opposite. 

 

Quid pro quo, Cla-Reece