14 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

I think the point was that Nkunku has not been not trying - he simply looks like it, because he has been so ineffective.

Not saying I agree - I would say that it has looked like he downed tools, but we don't know for sure. Maybe he is just that dire as a 9?

He looks like he wasnt trying because he wasnt, nothing to do with position or role, the last game had him literally wandering around as others tried to press, it was ridiculous.

 

14 hours ago, bluetrooper said:

No, but if the player was sold on a move to us by saying he was going to be the main man in the 10 role, gets injured and see's palmer literally struggling to have any kind of impact on a game. You're going to check out. 

 

Why are you so desperate to give him excuses, none of that matters, sold on a move, wrong position, palmer struggling (no idea what that has to do with anything by the way). Checking out is just not acceptable when your on a pitch, there are no reasonable excuses allowed.  

21 minutes ago, dkw said:

He looks like he wasnt trying because he wasnt, nothing to do with position or role, the last game had him literally wandering around as others tried to press, it was ridiculous.

I agree - looked like he had downed tools

70 mil for what ?

Wasn’t trying 

doesn’t want the ball 

given up. 
 

just repeat for the rest of em 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a useless joke of a player. Makes Jackson look like he’s worth 200M

 

go away you fool

Absolutely hopeless player. He's 27 now, too. Not getting any younger and has shown nothing. Granted, he hasn't been given enough chances to prove himself, but tonight was horrible to watch. I'd take an academy player up top right now.

15 hours ago, dkw said:

He looks like he wasnt trying because he wasnt, nothing to do with position or role, the last game had him literally wandering around as others tried to press, it was ridiculous.

 

Why are you so desperate to give him excuses, none of that matters, sold on a move, wrong position, palmer struggling (no idea what that has to do with anything by the way). Checking out is just not acceptable when your on a pitch, there are no reasonable excuses allowed.  

Fair play... his career has basically ended with us, he knows it. He should have gone in January. Was a transfer lined up and the club then said no? It's not just him though is it. The malaise is across the pitch. 

Ultimately - given the situation, I'd rather defend the players over the board. I'd rather focus on that than whats happening at board level. The players and manager are the only ones who can really turn it around. 

Back in the day if you didn't have a striker you'd play a centre back up top.

That's what I'd do here - play Adarabioyo up front - at least he can head it.

Nkuntku can stick his balloons up his arse and f**k off while he's doing it.

Just a pointless player. 

Unless Enzo has committed some serious physiological warfare and just abused him relentlessly that hasn’t been reported anywhere then I’m at a loss as to why he puts in no effort. 

Honestly need to just play one of the teenagers up front, at least they'll make a nuisence of themselves.

7 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Honestly need to just play one of the teenagers up front, at least they'll make a nuisence of themselves.

Yep - Agree with this. A striker, that is keen to impress, and that has been trained as a striker, and knows the roles... Should have done this ages ago.

Jonathan Wilson's musings: https://jonawils.substack.com/p/the-universal-sadness-of-christopher

Greed and inept leadership has led football into this mess: there are so many games that some players are breaking down under the strain, and yet at the same time the richest clubs are so wealthy that they can buy so many players that some, inevitably, will be left behind. In Nkunku are laid out the dismal consequences.

Re-watched the game and neither Nkunku nor Palmer were as bad as I first thought, albeit clouded by rage and frustration.

He's in a similar situation to Sterling though. He came here as a player who needs to be a leader, a talisman and a champion; he needs to be one of our top 3 players every week. Yes there were tactical issues etc. but at the end of the day he also didn't make an effort to make things happen.

Look at Mitoma's opener, for example; he's a small, pacey, technical player asked to deal with a Route 1 pass. And he just finds a way to make it happen.

Never want to see this man play for us again. Puts in zero effort.

Cucu is a bit lucky there. Looked a foul in the box.

I don’t blame him, he’s shown the type of person he is.

The fact the manager keeps picking him when he shows zero respect to the shirt and his team mates with his non existent work rate is more worrying.

2 minutes ago, Remodez said:

I don’t blame him

I do. He's a bone idle sh*t c**t who needs a good hiding.

5 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said:

I do. He's a bone idle sh*t c**t who needs a good hiding.

To be fair, who isn't these days? Bar maybe 2 or 3 players, no one seems bothered at all.

Marescas fault. Just drained the life out of him.

Winger/AM getting stuck as a number 9 and we're wondering why he's playing sh*t.

He played on the wing and was still sh*t.;

8 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said:

I do. He's a bone idle sh*t c**t who needs a good hiding.

Ultimately he is not picking himself is he.

After multiple games of lack of trying you can only blame the manager at this point.

I swear to god he’s doing it on purpose. Just ambles around shrugging his shoulders

The lack of effort is staggering.

While I'm not going to absolve him from blame entirely, I can't help but wonder if throwing him in the B squad, not allowing him meaningful PL minutes regardless of how many goals he scores, and trying to flog him in January has anything to do with that.

He's basically been told he's not wanted and has no future at the club.

Honestly he is the one I understand the most being unhappy.blueco signings wise.

One of the first brought in by a trusted RB person, sees the club sign experience in Sterling , Aubameyang and Koulibaly . Then 105 mill WC winner Enzo, then 115mill on one of the best PL players in Caicedo.

Set to be a centerpiece for Poch, gets injured, misses the season, sees us only make confwrence league and Poch sacked.

Comes back with a manager that does not want him, club wants to sell him but cannot and does not agree to loan him.