7 minutes ago, RMH said:

But then, we go on and buy this Chukwema from Villa who’s as likely to start at midfield as Colwill in the defensive line. And it must have been sanctioned by Tutchel. I sometimes don’t know what’s going on.

ps - I haven’t read all posts, but who the f**k is KWP?  Can’t you (and I mean everyone) write the name or part of it? I hate acronyms.

I will for you my friend.

We should sign James Ward-Prowse.

20 minutes ago, RMH said:

But then, we go on and buy this Chukwema from Villa who’s as likely to start at midfield as Colwill in the defensive line. And it must have been sanctioned by Tutchel. I sometimes don’t know what’s going on.

ps - I haven’t read all posts, but who the f**k is KWP?  Can’t you (and I mean everyone) write the name or part of it? I hate acronyms.

isn't your username an acronym though?

1 minute ago, azpi28 said:

isn't your username an acronym though?

Lol well Pointed out Dave.

BTW his username stands for Real Men (are) hairy.

16 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

Kyle Walker-Peters from Southampton 

i think it's a lot more likely that you bring on an attacking type midfielder in a game than you bring on a CB from the bench, with the 5 subs Thomas Tuchel might figure Chukwuemeka can give us something from the bench 

Thanks!

We’ve got plenty midfielders to cover our midfield 2, other thing is whether they are good enough attacking-wise, I don’t think Jorgi, Kante nor Kovacic are creative enough, but we’ve got Gallagher, RLC and Gilmour (who, it’s widely known, I rate a fair bit, unless he’s gone on loan, which wouldn’t make sense to me). Chukwemeka May be more creative, but is Tuchel going to play him with 18 years? I doubt it.

15 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

I will for you my friend.

We should sign James Ward-Prowse.

2 minutes ago, RMH said:

Thanks!

We’ve got plenty midfielders to cover our midfield 2, other thing is whether they are good enough attacking-wise, I don’t think Jorgi, Kante nor Kovacic are creative enough, but we’ve got Gallagher, RLC and Gilmour (who, it’s widely known, I rate a fair bit, unless he’s gone on loan, which wouldn’t make sense to me). Chukwemeka May be more creative, but is Tuchel going to play him with 18 years? I doubt it.

i think he might replace Ruben Loftus-Cheek? if he was to leave. Also with Jorginho and Kanté only having 1 year left on their deals it makes sense to get a midfielder in. I rate Gilmour too but he's more of a Jorginho type player, not really one for going on a forward run and being a goal threat. So it might be Gilmour and De Jong who replace Jorginho and Kanté long term and Chuckwuemeka might be a different profile midfielder that we don't really have at the moment.

10 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

isn't your username an acronym though?

It is indeed! But I’m not famous like Romelu H Mukaku!

Edited August 2, 20223 yr by RMH

i've seen some people complain that we are trying to get Cucurella and Fofana now for big money while we could have gotten them earlier for 15 or 20 million

like we are doing now with Chukwuemeka

People are complaining about us signing fullbacks/wingbacks and keep forgetting that last season most of our wingbacks got injured at one point and that was really the beginning of our fall from the top in the league

He’s being signed for cover and he can play on the left of the middle 3, I also would imagine it opens the door to sell Alonso to Barca and also get rid of Emerson maybe. 
obviously quality bc Peps been sniffing around him. I’ve seen him a few times for Brighton good player and we do need a left back, Chilly after the ACL may not be the same player.

9 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Good. Whoever is willing to pay any sort of fee to take on Sarr get him gone. We also need to move past the Dave, Alonso and Emerson Era. They are not fit for the style TT wants to play.

Cucurella can also play on the left side of a back 3.   So Cucu and Chillwell in the same defence is also a possibility.

Sigh still not done. Usual story, offer made not accepted waiting to be gazumped by someone barca, Man C, the burger boy.

7 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

People are complaining about us signing fullbacks/wingbacks and keep forgetting that last season most of our wingbacks got injured at one point and that was really the beginning of our fall from the top in the league

Yep. I also remember a lot of people complaining about the difference in quality when it comes to our strongest 11 and our squad players. This kind of signing would bring the type of squad depth we need if we want to compete with City and Liverpool.

 

hope they wrap this up soon

the reports that Brighton have declined our bid turn out to be not true

17 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

the reports that Brighton have declined our bid turn out to be not true

If they reject this bid then they are mad.

Reports are Brightons price for Man City was 50mill. City refused this and said 40mill no higher.

When we came in Brighton wanted Levi Colwill included but we have proposed straight cash. Brighton rejected our offer of 50mill and have increased their asking price, with that price reported anywhere from 60mill to 70mill. They are also trying to agree a deal for Levi Colwill on the side, making this a sticking point.

 

first refusal is that if someone else agrees a fee we are able to match that and sign him?

20 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Reports are Brightons price for Man City was 50mill. City refused this and said 40mill no higher.

When we came in Brighton wanted Levi Colwill included but we have proposed straight cash. Brighton rejected our offer of 50mill and have increased their asking price, with that price reported anywhere from 60mill to 70mill. They are also trying to agree a deal for Levi Colwill on the side, making this a sticking point.

So basically they are trying to mug off Chelsea then. Higher price even though we matched the price they asked of City and want our current best youth prospect. 

If anything, either sell to us fo £30m with Colwill included or £45 with Colwill in separate del because we are offering something city can't offer them.  Not trying to bleed us. 

6 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

 

first refusal is that if someone else agrees a fee we are able to match that and sign him?

Yeah, If we decide nah someone else can pick up our rubbish

Get it done, Let him get good at brighton and then buy him back down the road, If they get relegated we could even low ball and sideshow bobs your uncle

I would keep Levi. He's an even better prospect than Tomori was.  We could have done with Fik now.

Edited August 3, 20223 yr by TheCeleryKing

3 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

I would keep Levi. He's an even better prospect than Tomori was.  We could have done with Fik now.

I think you swap Colwill for Cucurella every day of the week and twice on Sunday. There’s no guarantee that Colwill will come good. Cucurella is already a proven player and helps our team now and for the better part of a decade. He’s only 23, it’s not like we’re swapping Colwill for an old player.

This infatuation with youth is so confusing to me. How many fans were upset when we lost Nathaniel Chalobah? Patrick Bamford? Ola Aina? Jeremie Boga? The list goes on. For every Tomori, there’s a couple dozen who’ve left who have done pretty much nothing.

I reluctantly admire City for saying £40m and not a penny more. We should have a firm idea (maximum valuation) in our mind and stick to it. It can then be reduced by virtue of any part exchange valuation of a player that the selling Club wants from us, but must NOT exceed our original valuation - win or lose !!

36 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

I think you swap Colwill for Cucurella every day of the week and twice on Sunday. There’s no guarantee that Colwill will come good. Cucurella is already a proven player and helps our team now and for the better part of a decade. He’s only 23, it’s not like we’re swapping Colwill for an old player.

This infatuation with youth is so confusing to me.

He's 24.  But yes, he is young.  I agree and I am not infatuated with youth either.  I am just looking at the business of it.  Colwill is a talent.  Potentially worth more than in 2-3 years time.  A lot more.

The question is how proven is Cucurella? Released by Barcelona. Some games with Getafe and ONE good season with Brighton. I like him. He is a good player. But maybe City's valuation of £40m is about right.

I think Brighton are taking the piss, tbh, and agree with what someone posted above: if they really want Colwill, then this should make our position stronger, ie, they'll take 50 Million (the price they supposedly quoted City), plus an agreed fee for Colwill. 

But they seem to be saying, give us Colwill and £55+ million? 

£42.5 million + Colwill (assuming he'd move), with a buy back of 25 million coming into effect within 2 years would be fair. That way, if he kicks on, they triple their money, same as they have with Cucurella. 

Edited August 3, 20223 yr by Hessleboink