1 hour ago, bluelightening said:

In four years of watching Fernandez, have you seen him deliver any performance worth his price tag? We are stuck with him... It is going to become a major headache for the club

Or even half the price tag ...

If we keep him, and the owners insist that he has to play every game again, then we are basically signing up to fielding another unbalanced team all season with the inevitable consequences. These BlueCo c**ts already have 4 years of data to prove Enzo isn't the answer (if they actually get their heads out of their arses and look at it)

The problem the club has now is that some players don't want to stick around at a club with yet another season with no CL football, and with different managers coming and going every season. . Not only that, but if those players don't leave, we are left with expensive players who don't want to be here but who will have to play.

No f**king good for anyone.

Long way to go in this window. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if he gets his move

21 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

Long way to go in this window. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if he gets his move

We can but hope 🙏

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Or even half the price tag ...

If we keep him, and the owners insist that he has to play every game again, then we are basically signing up to fielding another unbalanced team all season with the inevitable consequences. These BlueCo c**ts already have 4 years of data to prove Enzo isn't the answer (if they actually get their heads out of their arses and look at it)

Think they actually banked on selling him this summer, well making one big sale. There was that note in our annual reports that they anticipated revenue of £700m+ this year, with player sales contributing £250m. So far they have banked £50m from the Cucurella sale. They need to find £200m+ from somewhere before the window closes. That is why they are inviting offers, but so far only Chalobah & Andrey Santos have suitors.

@markpitts

.is that £250 million the total amount after we sell players and buy players ?

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37 minutes ago, markpitts said:

Think they actually banked on selling him this summer, well making one big sale. There was that note in our annual reports that they anticipated revenue of £700m+ this year, with player sales contributing £250m. So far they have banked £50m from the Cucurella sale. They need to find £200m+ from somewhere before the window closes. That is why they are inviting offers, but so far only Chalobah & Andrey Santos have suitors.

Latest accounts surely were for the ye 30/6/25. Any note re sales etc again surely would be for the ye 30/6/26. Yes it’s likely that Cucurella would be in the 26 period alongside most of the players that were sold in the summer& winter windows of 25 but from 1/7 any sales would feature in the ye30/6 /27

Just had a quick look at the accounts and there is no mention whatsoever re anticipated turnover of £700m or that sales of £250 would be achieved.

To be fair something in my memory supports the likely £700m but I think that was just a newspaper article

Edited July 5Jul 5 by terraloon

43 minutes ago, markpitts said:

Think they actually banked on selling him this summer, well making one big sale. There was that note in our annual reports that they anticipated revenue of £700m+ this year, with player sales contributing £250m. So far they have banked £50m from the Cucurella sale. They need to find £200m+ from somewhere before the window closes. That is why they are inviting offers, but so far only Chalobah & Andrey Santos have suitors.

I agree.

What we may start to see now, is a falling off of the bullsh*t links that we have seen so far, as the penny drops to the mainstream media that we are actually nobodies in this market. I'm sure we will still see links of our sales which will be wildly off the mark which, when we capitulate and sell these players for half of our quoted values, we will again somehow come our with briefings as damage limitationn.

We will top £250 million in sales this window I reckon.

There seems to be concrete interest in a number of our players.

Gusto, Delap, Trev, Neto, Santos along with George and Cucu’s fees already should top £250 million fairly easily.

I expect at least another 3 to go even if all the above move on too.

The £700m figure was widely reported across the media, by the likes of Sky, New York Times, The Guardian, Fox Sports, so I imagine there was some official substance to the "source" of that projection. It came out when we announced the huge £262.4m loss for 24/25.

1 hour ago, 19seventyone said:

We will top £250 million in sales this window I reckon.

There seems to be concrete interest in a number of our players.

Gusto, Delap, Trev, Neto, Santos along with George and Cucu’s fees already should top £250 million fairly easily.

I expect at least another 3 to go even if all the above move on too.

There hasn't been a bid for any of those players except Tyrique George. We might be able to sell Chalobah, but i am at a point whereby i don't believe that this lot are capable of managing these windows in anywhere near a passable level. Up until this point it is all twitter bullsh*t that they are even being called out on.

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

The £700m figure was widely reported across the media, by the likes of Sky, New York Times, The Guardian, Fox Sports, so I imagine there was some official substance to the "source" of that projection. It came out when we announced the huge £262.4m loss for 24/25.

Don't need a FOS though. We already have so many revenue streams set out.

The longer this mob are involved with us and more time we spend lurching our way through players, managers and transfer windows the more i am convinced that administration is on our horizon. When this happens hopefully Ares Management will be able to identify sports people interested in trying to salvage the club.

8 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Don't need a FOS though. We already have so many revenue streams set out.

The longer this mob are involved with us and more time we spend lurching our way through players, managers and transfer windows the more i am convinced that administration is on our horizon. When this happens hopefully Ares Management will be able to identify sports people interested in trying to salvage the club.

The thing that gets me is they seem to want to sell every player that I actually like and keep all the tossers. It makes it nigh on impossible to build any sort of bond with the team. I don't think they want any actual "fans" because they make so many decisions that drive people away, or make them indifferent.

1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said:

The thing that gets me is they seem to want to sell every player that I actually like and keep all the tossers. It makes it nigh on impossible to build any sort of bond with the team. I don't think they want any actual "fans" because they make so many decisions that drive people away, or make them indifferent.

1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said:

The thing that gets me is they seem to want to sell every player that I actually like and keep all the tossers. It makes it nigh on impossible to build any sort of bond with the team. I don't think they want any actual "fans" because they make so many decisions that drive people away, or make them indifferent.

I'm the same, but i have come to the conclusion that the few players that we have been able to bond with, are the only ones that have any possible trading value. The reason why Garnacho, Badiashile, Disasi, Guiu, Delap and countless other ineffectual players are not in the headlines is because nobody is interested in them as, regardless of the ridiculous briefings from our feeble minded, living stealing, media department, everybody else can see what we can also see. These are not prodigious young talents bursting with potential that the whole of Europe has been chasing, they are actually just ten a penny cannon fodder that we are now overpricing.

38 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I'm the same, but i have come to the conclusion that the few players that we have been able to bond with, are the only ones that have any possible trading value. The reason why Garnacho, Badiashile, Disasi, Guiu, Delap and countless other ineffectual players are not in the headlines is because nobody is interested in them as, regardless of the ridiculous briefings from our feeble minded, living stealing, media department, everybody else can see what we can also see. These are not prodigious young talents bursting with potential that the whole of Europe has been chasing, they are actually just ten a penny cannon fodder that we are now overpricing.

I'd say the media team are probably competent media professionals, but just get ridiculous tasks given to them by the owners and the hapless sporting directors ... the proverbial "lipstick on a pig" ... I bet they are as frustrated as us fans LOL

Say what you like about him but he loves a crucial goal

Meanwhile his agent has removed all recording material from the dressing room.

150m now please thank you Real.

On 06/07/2026 at 01:55, terraloon said:

Latest accounts surely were for the ye 30/6/25. Any note re sales etc again surely would be for the ye 30/6/26. Yes it’s likely that Cucurella would be in the 26 period alongside most of the players that were sold in the summer& winter windows of 25 but from 1/7 any sales would feature in the ye30/6 /27

Just had a quick look at the accounts and there is no mention whatsoever re anticipated turnover of £700m or that sales of £250 would be achieved.

To be fair something in my memory supports the likely £700m but I think that was just a newspaper article

The £700m is the projected revenue from 24/25 accounts. I actually think it's fairly well supported. Only Bettinelli and some youth players were transferred prior to 1/7/25, meaning the vast bulk of the ~£300m raised from player sales will be accounted for in 25/26 books. Similarly, the bulk of the CWC KO rounds prizemoney and the CL money will be added to our usual ~£300m of ordinary operating revenue. I did a calculation somewhere earlier based on 24/25 figures and it came close to the £700m projection based on a 5th place finish, albeit we will fall a little short thanks to our abysmal league finish.

Our finances are fine this season, it's next season where, if the club fails to have another bumper window of player sales, fails to qualify for the CL (Europa will not be sufficient) and still declines a shirt sponsor, we are in trouble.

6 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Say what you like about him but he loves a crucial goal

Sure. However his complete absence for 90+1 minutes saw Egypt largely dominate Argentina's midfield, leading to his team being 2-0 down for 79 minutes. It's the same story at club level, week in, week out.

Edited July 8Jul 8 by SydneyChelsea

1 hour ago, SydneyChelsea said:

The £700m is the projected revenue from 24/25 accounts. I actually think it's fairly well supported. Only Bettinelli and some youth players were transferred prior to 1/7/25, meaning the vast bulk of the ~£300m raised from player sales will be accounted for in 25/26 books. Similarly, the bulk of the CWC KO rounds prizemoney and the CL money will be added to our usual ~£300m of ordinary operating revenue. I did a calculation somewhere earlier based on 24/25 figures and it came close to the £700m projection based on a 5th place finish, albeit we will fall a little short thanks to our abysmal league finish.

Our finances are fine this season, it's next season where, if the club fails to have another bumper window of player sales, fails to qualify for the CL (Europa will not be sufficient) and still declines a shirt sponsor, we are in trouble.

Sure. However his complete absence for 90+1 minutes saw Egypt largely dominate Argentina's midfield, leading to his team being 2-0 down for 79 minutes. It's the same story at club level, week in, week out.

Didn’t we need to hit that £700m-£750m revenue mark because of the new Squad Cost Ratio (SRC) regulations, which means we are only allowed to spend 85% of our total revenue on wages, amortisation, transfers and agent fees?

Our 2024/25 wages + amortisation figure was £572m, second in the league to City at £578m. That is why I think anyone expecting any big signing this season (comes with big wages) will be in for a disappointment. That is why I find talks of Wharton & Morgan Rogers hilarious.

You are right though, they desperately need CL footy this season (personally can’t see it), need to sell quite a few duds (market limited to PL?) and probably why they have gone cap in hand to HP for a FOS sponsorship.

2 hours ago, markpitts said:

Didn’t we need to hit that £700m-£750m revenue mark because of the new Squad Cost Ratio (SRC) regulations, which means we are only allowed to spend 85% of our total revenue on wages, amortisation, transfers and agent fees?

Our 2024/25 wages + amortisation figure was £572m, second in the league to City at £578m. That is why I think anyone expecting any big signing this season (comes with big wages) will be in for a disappointment. That is why I find talks of Wharton & Morgan Rogers hilarious.

You are right though, they desperately need CL footy this season (personally can’t see it), need to sell quite a few duds (market limited to PL?) and probably why they have gone cap in hand to HP for a FOS sponsorship.

The £700m figure is just a projection asserted by the club, but it is not without substance:

PL (8th) : £162.5m
CL (R16): £78.4m - based on Swiss Ramble estimate as of 2/2/26, that includes league phase + R16 + new "value pillar" special broadcasting revenue payment for bigger clubs
CWC (KOs only): £65.6m
Player Sales 25/26: £329.9m - £282.9m Summer Window + £47m for Cucurella

Total: £306.5m in prize money + £329.9m in player sales = £636.4m

Keep in mind that's before ordinary matchday and commercial revenue, which based on 24/25 would be at least another £200m.

Just think what could happen if we had a shirt sponsor!

That should comfortably cover our SCR for 25/26, but the obviously problem is without CL football or bumper player sales, that revenue falls off a steep cliff next season.

Edited July 8Jul 8 by SydneyChelsea

5 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Sure. However his complete absence for 90+1 minutes saw Egypt largely dominate Argentina's midfield, leading to his team being 2-0 down for 79 minutes. It's the same story at club level, week in, week out.

this is the point his fanboys constantly, conveniently ignore. A big reason Argentina were in the position they were in needing desperate goals is because he was utterly abysmal for the the rest of the game, got bypassed with embarrassing ease constantly and create the as much as I did sat on my sofa.

“Enzo Fernandez's agent Javier Pastore will talk to Chelsea after the World Cup to try to understand what solution could be best for all parties. The contract is still a problem between Chelsea and Enzo.”

He won’t sign a £250k/w contract, club knows if they even give him that Caicedo & Palmer will demand parity. What gives?

10 minutes ago, dkw said:

this is the point his fanboys constantly, conveniently ignore. A big reason Argentina were in the position they were in needing desperate goals is because he was utterly abysmal for the the rest of the game, got bypassed with embarrassing ease constantly and create the as much as I did sat on my sofa.

Imagine watching that game and this being your takeaway... 🤣

21 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

The £700m figure is just a projection asserted by the club, but it is not without substance:

PL (8th) : £162.5m
CL (R16): £78.4m - based on Swiss Ramble estimate as of 2/2/26, that includes league phase + R16 + new "value pillar" special broadcasting revenue payment for bigger clubs
CWC (KOs only): £65.6m
Player Sales 25/26: £329.9m - £282.9m Summer Window + £47m for Cucurella

Total: £306.5m in prize money + £329.9m in player sales = £636.4m

Keep in mind that's before ordinary matchday and commercial revenue, which based on 24/25 would be at least another £200m.

Just think what could happen if we had a shirt sponsor!

That should comfortably cover our SCR for 25/26, but the obviously problem is without CL football or bumper player sales, that revenue falls off a steep cliff next season.

A couple of things that struck me in the 24/25 accounts was the fact that there was player value impairment but also the fact that the 25/26 summer window didn’t lead to the level of profit I personally expected. Can’t rember the exact numbers but the profit from transferring out some 17? Players was circa £35m ? Those numbers are just the headlines as they say the devil is in the details.

We know from the likes of Felix that the fee v book value was highly likely to have led to a loss but like Chillwell and others we will have removed their amortisation and wage costs going forward

Trying to track SCR is going to be incredibly difficult if for no other reason we now to look over a calendar year when it comes to transfers but just to complicate matters transfers over a 36 month period are likewise a factor.

See the attachment

We know that we were not that far off the calendar year 25 ratio which was 80% but that period ended for transfers on 31/12/25

From memory there was circa £60+ m in the 24/25 numbers which was said to include impairment and costs. We almost certainly will see a similar sum in the 26 accounts and of course they will be factored in SCR 26 ( Sterling )