11 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Perhaps the one blessing is that since we are out of the cup we have less games coming up in the rest of January. We could do with every but of time to get a few players back. But just as importantly we need to make sure they are genuinely ready to play and not just 50-60 mins away from a  recurrence.

Good post,  we desperately need at least some of em back sooner rather than later! Getting half of them back fully fit is better than all of em back half fit.

All very well blaming players and not Potter but he is there to bloody motivate them to perform.  May at least be more acceptable if he showed some emotion on the touchline. He stands there as if its a game in the park.  He has never managed a club that expect to win. I repeat for all his praise only 4 sides scored fewer goals than Brighton last season

5 minutes ago, Pottery said:

All very well blaming players and not Potter but he is there to bloody motivate them to perform.  May at least be more acceptable if he showed some emotion on the touchline. He stands there as if its a game in the park.  He has never managed a club that expect to win. I repeat for all his praise only 4 sides scored fewer goals than Brighton last season

Yeah Im with you the stats dont show this turn around in brighton. In fact the stats show he has taken us the the 30ish% win rate he averaged over 4-5 seasons

Potter in crowd must be happy, another match where the manager is free from blame. 

We loaned Felix for 6 months, he immediately gets banned for 1. When it rains it pours

I hate to say I told you so but I told you so

17 minutes ago, forbzy said:

It may have seemed that way but we weren't really a yo-yo team back then. We went into decline over the course of the 70's, and that led to 2 relegations. But arguably the second one was avoidable if it hadn't been for a fallout between the chairman and Eddie Mac. 

The bloody company car. We did indeed spend a period of yo-yoing but that was more the eighties with the likes of Bobby Campbell.

But all of this in incomparable to the club and team we have had for the last 30 odd years. We had cr@p facilities,  a bloody expensive stand that sacked the money out of the club, we had Mears, a list of managers worse at each step, and a team full of average to poor players.

Now we have boundless wealth and we still have average to poor players

Ironically as I was typing this it dame on 5he telly that Richard Rufus, a Charlton player that we were interested in for a long time but couldn't get done, has just been jailed for 7 1/2 years.

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by WhiteWall

What a f**king farce. Not only they lost against f**king Fulham who played w/o their best player, but they also ruined my 3000 quid accumulator. The only event out of 12 matches and I did not even have Chelsea to win it straight, it was win or draw. Unbelievable. All I needed was Fulham not to win this f**king football match and these buffoons made a f**king mess of it. 

Fulham only had a single attempt on goal in the 2nd half and that striker scored when truth is he should not even have touched that f**king ball for f**ks sake! KEPA and Chalobah gifted them that goal. Clowns. Utter garbage.

14 minutes ago, Jackson27 said:

I Can Pass Backwards Do The Odd Floated Ball Forward And Point Just Like Jorginho, Doesn't Take Anything Away From The Fact Jorginho Should Be Talked About Like Those Attackers, He Offers Nothing 99% Of The Time That 1% He Does Something Is Exactly Like Those Attackers

Takes a good penalty

Worst thing about this loss is Fulham looked no better than bang average. Like something said, Chelsea beat Chelsea tonight 

20 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

This is a good point  and perhaps a blessing for all of us

Yes maybe if the boys have more time to relax and socialize together, instead of playing in all those mid-week cup competitions, they'll put in a decent shift when comes to Saturday's EPL fixture 😊

Missed the game because I was working could anyone summarise primarily on the performance. Based off the scoreline and the red card I'm assuming the sending off was a major factor? 

Did we look any better than previous games, did we attack?

I may have said it before.  I saw my first game at Chelsea in 1957, I have had a a season ticket since 1976. My wife is a Brighton fan. I was lucky  enough to be able to afford a season ticket there as well,. We bought them the year after the Amex opened. Chelsea always (!) took precedence when the fixtures clashed. I have set the scene in what I want to say.

Chris Hughton got them in the PL but was sacked because of his essentially defensive approach. 

Graham Potter comes in and, for two seasons, it's all about playing out from the back. The shooting on goal at times was pathetic. It was last season I think when there were 6 games without a win. His response was this irritating, calm, 'well reasoned' good sense.

It has only been this season when there was an improvement in their play  - don't forget McAllister plays for them. And Roberto de Zerbi has improved them again.

He definitely can impove players but, seriously,  do we really want to allow him two years to get this team to function at the level they should be at?

For me, no!

17 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Missed the game because I was working could anyone summarise primarily on the performance. Based off the scoreline and the red card I'm assuming the sending off was a major factor? 

Did we look any better than previous games, did we attack?

Attack Was A Lot Of Felix, Defending And Keeping Shambles, Basically Same Old

5 minutes ago, Jackson27 said:

Attack Was A Lot Of Felix, Defending And Keeping Shambles, Basically Same Old

Did Felix look good, I was surprised to hear he got sent off, kind of wild to score and then get sent off on your debut. Please tell me its not a straight red so it's not a 3 game ban otherwise our attack goes back to normal again

1 minute ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Did Felix look good, I was surprised to hear he got sent off, kind of wild to score and then get sent off on your debut. Please tell me its not a straight red so it's not a 3 game ban otherwise our attack goes back to normal again

He didn’t score, Koulibaly scored. 

He looked lively though. Was by far our best attacking player and unlucky not to have an assist and maybe a goal too. 

Straight red so 3 game ban. It’s the clearest red card you’ll ever see. 

1 hour ago, Deino said:

 

We loaned Felix for 6 months, he immediately gets banned for 1. When it rains it pours

 

Is it only one game? 

OR is it the Next 3 games, straight red for serious foul play?

at 500,000 quid a game. Well, that was money well spent.

To be fair he had more shots on goal than any of our attacking players had had all year.  I mean he played well. Very well. Better than Falcao or Pato ever did.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by TheCeleryKing

our team for our next game is much clearer now

Mendy

James
Fofana
Chillwell

Kante
Loftus-Cheek
Zaka
Felix

Pulisic
Broja
Sterling

 

Okay, what do we know about the Chelsea physio's?  Cos Something is going badly wrong.

Wrong line up, no reaction with his subs, brings Jorgi on when we loses Zak. He really is terrible with his tactics and subs ain't he?

Even as one of Trevs biggest fans I could see he was having a stinker and needed the hook at half time, and he ends up losing his man for the winner. Really poor.

That meeting did a lot of good eh?

6 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Is it only one game? 

OR is it the Next 3 games, straight red for serious foul play?

at 500,000 quid a game. Well, that was money well spent.

To be fair he had more shots on goal than any of our attacking players had had all year.  I mean he played well. Very well. Better than Falcao or Pato ever did.

 

 

 

 

Straight reds are 3 game bans. Double yellows is 1

3 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Wrong line up, no reaction with his subs, brings Jorgi on when we loses Zak. He really is terrible with his tactics and subs ain't he?

Even as one of Trevs biggest fans I could see he was having a stinker and needed the hook at half time, and he ends up losing his man for the winner. Really poor.

That meeting did a lot of good eh?

Chalobah indeed was having a terrible game, and we didn't need 3 CBs for this game. We needed another player in midfield and therefore Felix and Mount further up the pitch.  So, yes, we should have pulled a CB at half-time - Chalobah - and put on an extra lad with energy in the middle. Chuky or Gallagher. Simple.

 

19 minutes ago, drjonesy1994 said:

He didn’t score, Koulibaly scored. 

He looked lively though. Was by far our best attacking player and unlucky not to have an assist and maybe a goal too. 

Straight red so 3 game ban. It’s the clearest red card you’ll ever see. 

Oh damn Google lied to me, on my notification it said Felix scored for us. Fair play to KK. Glad to hear Felix performing shame about the 3 game match ban, I was hoping I'd get to see some of him next game but I suppose I'll wait til next month now.

There's bad luck and there's BAD luck, GP seems to have it in abundance.  Take away all of the injured players, he still has a talented squad of players to choose from and its not like they just came up from the Football League or some 3rd rate country. No the squad he has to work with are not rubbish, they collectively don't become bang average non league players overnight.  While they are not his choices it is his job to get the group, no matter how disjointed it may seem, to work together collectively but it seems that its a case of 'enee meene minee' mo at the moment. He keeps changing the line ups, the tactics, the formation, no wonder these players look lost and certainly not a cohesive unit. 

There were little sparks of life today, but they soon withered.  Misplaced passes, missed chances, messed up defence and it seems to me that he hasn't done anything to change things, or even look like we are entering a transition stage, unless you call going from the Premier League to the Championship a transition! which is where we will be heading if this slide continues, although I very much doubt Clearlake will allow that to happen. What I can't fathom out, and I sure that GP is more qualified than me, is that Todd bought all this young talent in...so where is it?  GP should at least give the fans a glimpse of where he's going to take the club.   The kids maybe raw, but really they are not kids, they are mostly in their early 20's, so play them FFS and stop giving the aged players and those that are completely out of form game time, bring them on as subs rather than the other way round and whether he wins or not he just might get the fans and press off his back for a while, or continue to drive himself into an asylum....and a loss to Palace just might do that.

The majority of this team disgust me.

54 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

There's bad luck and there's BAD luck, GP seems to have it in abundance.  Take away all of the injured players, he still has a talented squad of players to choose from and its not like they just came up from the Football League or some 3rd rate country. No the squad he has to work with are not rubbish, they collectively don't become bang average non league players overnight.  While they are not his choices it is his job to get the group, no matter how disjointed it may seem, to work together collectively but it seems that its a case of 'enee meene minee' mo at the moment. He keeps changing the line ups, the tactics, the formation, no wonder these players look lost and certainly not a cohesive unit. 

There were little sparks of life today, but they soon withered.  Misplaced passes, missed chances, messed up defence and it seems to me that he hasn't done anything to change things, or even look like we are entering a transition stage, unless you call going from the Premier League to the Championship a transition! which is where we will be heading if this slide continues, although I very much doubt Clearlake will allow that to happen. What I can't fathom out, and I sure that GP is more qualified than me, is that Todd bought all this young talent in...so where is it?  GP should at least give the fans a glimpse of where he's going to take the club.   The kids maybe raw, but really they are not kids, they are mostly in their early 20's, so play them FFS and stop giving the aged players and those that are completely out of form game time, bring them on as subs rather than the other way round and whether he wins or not he just might get the fans and press off his back for a while, or continue to drive himself into an asylum....and a loss to Palace just might do that.

Potter doesn't know his direction at all. He doesn't have anything resembling a philosophy/ethos/style of play. 

He changes formations so often it's really not surprising that these players misplaced passes and haven't got a clue. I mean who can? One week you're a winger then next you're a wingback then suddenly you're in the No. 10 role then by next month you're in a free role. 

Potter hasn't got a clue

 

4 hours ago, HonoreMeiBalsac said:

Except all those players could contribute to a side better than 10th in the Prem. 

 

I keep seeing people saying this but it isn't 2015 anymore. There's the usual top 6 and there's Newcastle, Brighton and a couple of other teams that are performing well. Chelsea can very likely be 10th if they have a sh*t team that downgraded from last season and several injuries. 

Edited January 13, 20233 yr by Frankie8Lampard