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Chelsea v Fulham (PL) Fri 3rd Feb 2023 20:00 GMT

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1 minute ago, TimesUpPotter said:

The media don't want Potter to be questioned.

If they hate us it's in their best interest to try to keep pressure off him.

The media don't want to question Potter ?

f**king hell, the media are there to do just that, it's how they make their living, the radio media are questioning his selecting, tactics right now.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Brigadeiro Mk II said:

 I feel that had Fofana rolled the ball to him he'd have wasted it somehow.  

That's something I disagree on. Havertz is best when he comes in late like that time. 

He is worst when he's the man upfront

3 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Neville called us predictable, basic and the players being too far apart from each other. Hard to disagree 

Spot on that’s what I could see after 10 minutes no urgency no quickness just predictable 

Just now, Deino said:

That's something I disagree on. Havertz is best when he comes in late like that time. 

He is worst when he's the man upfront

Oh I totally agree with you on that. I just had this feeling that today he'd have missed even that one chance, just didn't look right, every move looked a bit off. I do want to see him playing as 10 regularly, although with Felix here now I have no idea how that will go. 

1 minute ago, Brigadeiro Mk II said:

Oh I totally agree with you on that. I just had this feeling that today he'd have missed even that one chance, just didn't look right, every move looked a bit off. I do want to see him playing as 10 regularly, although with Felix here now I have no idea how that will go. 

I just want to see Felix upfront with Havertz at 10 first. In theory, it could be exciting but with Potter he'll probably put Mount 10 and Havertz 9 only to swap out Havertz later

15 minutes ago, TimesUpPotter said:

I'm a statistician and it's not like it's hard to find.

What's more disconcerting is how the media talked up a guy who's team scored 42 goals last year as being some incredible coach even when his own supporters were booing him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/talksport.com/football/991359/perplexed-graham-potter-booing-brighton-leeds/amp/

Never got the Potter love in, I watched a lot of Brighton and just didn't get why he'd even be on a shortlist for a big club.  English manager effect in full force.

The media have slaughtered England managers for years.

Anyway we don't bring managers here because of the opinions of The Sun or Daily Mail.

16 minutes ago, abramovich said:

I thought Madueke looked class, especially given that this was his first match.

I wouldn't go as far as to say he was class. He looked bright when he came on, but his end product was pretty terrible. 

I might be being a bit harsh but Forfana should of done better and Kai should be getting that lob on target, if it’s cleared off the line then fair enough but he should be at least getting it on target.

Other than that I think we are going to have to be patient.

Enzo looked good but playing with an out of form Mount and Gallagher isn’t ideal.

Thought Sterling looked lively but we really need to spark that Felix can provide.

One point closer to safety I suppose 😉

Edited by 2211

4 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

The media have slaughtered England managers for years.

Anyway we don't bring managers here because of the opinions of The Sun or Daily Mail.

The media have always bigged up young English talent generally before turning on them as they fail to live up to the expectation.

They've always had a soft spot for Potter as well.

By every conceivable metric he did a much worse job at Brighton than Pulis did at Stoke and at 47 he isn't even particularly young but they way he's been span as this young top class manager destined for a top club despite none of his teams ever scoring often or winning many games has been especially strange.

Would anyone really argue that we'd have hired Potter if he wasn't English?

Just feels like Boehly came in and hired the guy who was the media flavour of the month rather than actually picking a top coach.

Edited by TimesUpPotter

25 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Kepa - 7 - Made one very good save in the first half. Mostly untroubled.

James - 5 - First game in a while, needs a bit of time to get back to his best.

Silva - 8 - Excellent again, dominated the penalty area. Mitrovic was never a threat.

Badiashile - 7 - His excellent start with us continues

Cucurella - 3 - Rubbish, headless chicken trying to defend. He only knows one way and that is to charge out like an idiot. No chance of building any shape at the back with him ruining it.

Enzo - 7 - A very solid start, picked out a few excellent passes in the first half and is happy to play through the lines. Need a DM though so he can be more involved going forward.

Gallagher - 4 - Lots of running, no quality what so ever though.

Mount - 4 - Messed up some really good opportunities to create something.

Ziyech - 4 - Wasted everything. Lacks power and pace to be a difference maker. There is a reason why Fulham were happy to give us space on the right with him on the pitch.

Mudryk - 4 - Never in the game, Fulham suffocated the left hand side in the first half.

Havertz - 3 - Wasteful again. He should have had 2 goals.

Subs:

Madueke - 5 - A promising start, but faded badly once Potter moved him around. Lacked quality in the final 3rd.

Azpilicueta - 5 - Can't get forward and defend at the same time, so had to stay deep which hurt us going forward.

Sterling - 4 - Didn't offer enough when he came on

Fofana - 6 - I thought he should have scored with the chance he had, looked decent though.

Chilwell - 5 - Wasn't on long enough to make much difference.

Not a lot to argue with. Wasn't expecting an instant transformation as we've been dreadful all season and barely anyone has hit any kind of form.

Fulham were superbly organised and their closing down was excellent. A few naughty tackles were rightly carded, but they were very good value for their point.

Some promising signs from the new players, and fantastic to have James and Chilwell back. Be nice if they could be on the field together, but that is such a rarity - isn't it something like 3 times in the last 50-odd games?

Hopefully Kova and Kanté will also be fit again soon, not to mention Zakaria. We still don't have a functioning midfield.

Edited by Backbiter

I really really hope we don't give Mount a new contract.  He has done nothing to deserve it and is living off past glory. He and Gallagher literally left Enzo on an island today in that midfield. MOUNT NEVER ONCE DROPPED DEEP TO HELP WITH THE BUILD UP, all he did was try to run past the striker and he ended up spoiling our moves. 

We nen Jim

Just now, TimesUpPotter said:

The media have always bigged up young English talent generally before turning on them as they fail to live up to the expectation.

They've always had a soft spot for Potter as well.

By every conceivable metric he did a much worse job at Brighton than Pulis did at Stoke and at 47 he isn't even particularly young but they way he's been span as this young top class manager destined for a top club despite none of his teams ever scoring often or winning many games has been especially strange.

Would anyone really argue that we'd have hired Potter if he wasn't English?

Aren't our new owners driven by metrics and stats. ??

His nationally had nothing to do with it, why would our American owners choose a manager just because he's English ?

Arsenal fans were writing the same stuff as you about Arteta not long ago.

Anyway mate ,.it might end up a big f**k up with Potter, but it's still Chelsea, good or bad.

 

 

Can anyone tell me what is Potter's signature playing style and team identity?   Mourinho has one, Guardiola has one, Klopp as one, Tuchel has one, Pochettino has one. Even a "copycat coach" Arteta now has one. 

Some pundit said. You never know what type of a tactical line-up he is going to field thus confusing opposition...Well, knowing Chelsea players I could only see him often playing players out of their position and not to their core strengths thus indeed confusing opposition by such dumb decisions. That I could see as his signature style. 

 

3 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

I really really hope we don't give Mount a new contract.  He has done nothing to deserve it and is living off past glory. He and Gallagher literally left Enzo on an island today in that midfield. MOUNT NEVER ONCE DROPPED DEEP TO HELP WITH THE BUILD UP, all he did was try to run past the striker and he ended up spoiling our moves. 

Shocking really. 
 

Really need Zakaria and Kovacic back. 

4 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Aren't our new owners driven by metrics and stats. ??

His nationally had nothing to do with it, why would our American owners choose a manager just because he's English ?

Arsenal fans were writing the same stuff as you about Arteta not long ago.

Anyway mate ,.it might end up a big f**k up with Potter, but it's still Chelsea, good or bad.

They say they are, which is why it's strange they'd hire a managerial as statistically abysmal as Potter.

Think Potter has a lot more in common with Hodgson, Nuno and Moyes rather than Arteta but perhaps he's the next 1 in 1000 shot and not the near certain dud he looked from day 1.

Edited by TimesUpPotter

4 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

I really really hope we don't give Mount a new contract.  He has done nothing to deserve it and is living off past glory. He and Gallagher literally left Enzo on an island today in that midfield. MOUNT NEVER ONCE DROPPED DEEP TO HELP WITH THE BUILD UP, all he did was try to run past the striker and he ended up spoiling our moves. 

I agree, at first I thought it would be a 4231 with Enzo given a bit more freedom to look for forward passes and have his eyes on the attackers most of the times , but it was actually a trainwreck of a three man midfield in a 433 as Mount never got involved, never dropped deep and was always in no man's land somewhere close to Havertz and Gallagher ran like a headless chicken most of the time. Both awful tactically and left Enzo for dead when he was actually the one to build up the play... Baffles my mind that such poor tactical decisions and such poor execution can happen at a club like this and in such league. 

6 minutes ago, TimesUpPotter said:

They say they are, which is why it's strange they'd hire a managerial as statistically abysmal as Potter.

Think Potter has a lot more in common with Hodgson, Nuno and Moyes rather than Arteta but perhaps he's the next 1 in 1000 shot and not the near certain dud he looked from day 1.

That’s an insult to those managers. He has more in common with Dowie and Ince.

3 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

I agree, at first I thought it would be a 4231 with Enzo given a bit more freedom to look for forward passes and have his eyes on the attackers most of the times , but it was actually a trainwreck of a three man midfield in a 433 as Mount never got involved, never dropped deep and was always in no man's land somewhere close to Havertz and Gallagher ran like a headless chicken most of the time. Both awful tactically and left Enzo for dead when he was actually the one to build up the play... Baffles my mind that such poor tactical decisions and such poor execution can happen at a club like this and in such league. 

Did it ever occur to either of you that perhaps that was the role Mount was asked to play?

Com the summer when Club  gets a slap on the wrist for FFP breaches (Roman was naughty with spending but Bully & Co put him to shame so UEFA or whomever regulates that stuff must be asking questions already) the academy players will be first out the door because their sales generate pure profit to balance the books, so I expect Gallagher to be sold and if Mount wont sign him shortly afterwards, RLC must be looking over his shoulder and Chalobah will be likely surplus to requirements shame because he has more potential than an ageing Koulabilly

1 minute ago, Spiller86 said:

Did it ever occur to either of you that perhaps that was the role Mount was asked to play?

Gallagher actually made an attempt in the second half to start being involved whereas Mount was holding hands with Mudueke before he was taken off. 

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