You would hope the data geeks could run some stats and come up with someone different or “on their way up”. I always liked Roman’s model of always having to have won a major trophy (bar Sarri and Frank). 
 

Outside of unusual names, I would probably say Luis Enrique. Seems to have abit about him and has won some stuff. 

Oh and as for Mo Po, whilst he might build a good squad, ultimately it will always fall short. He’s not a winner. Stay clear Todd. 

If Potter Is Sacked Before The Season Is Done, Gotta Get Someone With Excellent Football Manager Stats, The Data On There Don't Lie 

No need to look further than Boehly himself for FM experience. It's a classic FM move to sign 6 players around the 21-23 range, and let the good time rolls in.

Surprised Thomas Frank is being rumoured, definitely needs to add heights in our team if we want re-invent into Brentford, maybe bring back Lukaku and sign the new Fellani from Everton?

I'd take Belle Silva as manager at this point over Potter

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Ruben Amorim's current managerial record :

 

Obviously nowhere near good enough for us LOL

Compared to Jose's stint in Portugal. 

Ralph hassenhuttl or Jessie Marsch. Ex RB Leipzig managers. We love the RB model 

What kind of football do Amorim's teams play?

5 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

What kind of football do Amorim's teams play?

Import question to ask. We have grown accustomed to our new style, not sure if these things called "goals" will catch on.

3 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Import question to ask. We have grown accustomed to our new style, not sure if these things called "goals" will catch on.

There were people in September thinking that Potter could get more out of our attackers than Tuchel (who was holding them back apparently), despite his awful scoring stats at Brighton. It's good to do due dilligence on managers 😂

Of all the coaches put there I actually want Poch, I'm under no illusions about the context of our situation. Not many coaches would have the balls to jump into our current situation. I seriously doubt ZZ would take over now. At best it would be the summer, but I don't think he's really suited to the squad. 

He's proven with world stars, we currently don't have that. Up and coming sure and a few stars, but the bulk of the squad we're building around are young. Flick would be great, but I don't think he leaves Germany NT for us and it's unlikely he can juggle both jobs. 

Stylistically he's probably more suited to us than ZZ. Enrique is probably the dream transfer for some. I definitely wouldn't be opposed to it and would actively encourage this appointment. He would bring the style RA craved for so many years, and with his proven record fans would be more willing to buy into him if results aren't immediately there.

In terms of top level coaches of the ones we know that are actively interested I think Poch is a good solution. He has a chip on his shoulder, he's proven at the highest level yet lacks some recognition from some fans. I too admit to harbouring doubts from his lack of trophies at Spurs and failure to win the Ligue 1 title in one of his two seasons. 

However, in terms of squad make up this team and project suits him down to a T. He's proven he can tactically compete with the best with victories over Klopp, Pep and some of the other top coaches. 

I didn't want him when TT was sacked, but now I've been humbled I know a good coach when I see one,  and maybe it's Potter he's made me lose my mind, but having a coach who's managed a rival side in the modern game doesn't quite seem as bad as it did back in the day. 

It wasn't so long ago I heard City fans talking about wanting Poch after Pep left, or Utd fans talking up Poch. Of the names linked to us yesterday for me he's the most reasonable option with the highest probability for success. Both in terms of agreeing a deal, and improving the team. You can argue Flick, ZZ and Enrique are all better coaches and I think the fact they all won the UCL proves that. However, if I had the option between Poch now and only the possibility one of those three signs in the summer I'm taking Poch and I'm running. 

Keeping Potter any sooner for me is a grave misjudgement. I doubt any of the aforementioned 3 coaches are willing to come in right now. If they are then respect to them and I would be more than happy to back them. Realistically Poch is probably the best we could hope for and is that really so bad?

I think I read that Flick has committed with Germany until the euros 2024 so he’s a no goer. 

On 19/02/2023 at 08:25, Munkworth said:

Who’s the latest hipster manager doing a slightly decent job?

Vincent Kompany?  Young, plays attractive football, hard, winner, no nonsense...

One name that I avoided till now but since we are in desperate times... Massimiliano Allegri.

IMO his tactic is a bit outdated but the truth is that without the 15 points deduction, Juventus is tied with the Milano teams in the top 3 there.

Can't ignore that his great record in league football and he did reach CL final too. So a proven winner that can work with any kind of player out there and that did dominate the domestic league similarly to Pep in the PL.

Anyone is still better than Potter and Poch. So might as well give Allegri a chance.

At this point, whoever takes over will get a massive new manager bounce with the way things have been. 

Whoever comes in has to re-install the "winning culture" we used to have during the Roman-era. Potter's excuses and "lads tried hard" statements are killing me. We went from winning the CL to a guy that praises his teams effort after losing 0-1 at home to the worst team in the PL and then goes on to say they were "well prepared". This is simply incredible. I think another manager in the PL would come up with such pathetic answers.

Anyone is fine with me at this point. Potter is so incredibly bad that the board couldn't even piss fans off if they tried to. Even Rafa Benitez as an interim manager is an upgrade over Potter for f**ks sake ...

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18 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

One name that I avoided till now but since we are in desperate times... Massimiliano Allegri.

IMO his tactic is a bit outdated but the truth is that without the 15 points deduction, Juventus is tied with the Milano teams in the top 3 there.

Can't ignore that his great record in league football and he did reach CL final too. So a proven winner that can work with any kind of player out there and that did dominate the domestic league similarly to Pep in the PL.

Anyone is still better than Potter and Poch. So might as well give Allegri a chance.

As someone who watches a lot of Serie A I want Allegri nowhere near this team.

10 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

As someone who watches a lot of Serie A I want Allegri nowhere near this team.

He's a good manager, rigid but knows how to win and how to implement a certain style and on top of that he's very good tactically speaking, he can make a gameplan for a specific opponent. He might not be ideal, but for a project and for a league challenge he has one of the best CVs out there even if his defensive tactic isn't working as much as it did previously.

It took Napoli a lot of years to come to this stage of not being afraid of playing the way they play now, unless you think that Sarri would be ideal for such an attacking and possession game, Allegi would be a decent choice for a few seasons.

We must not waste these years of having James, Chilwell, T.Silva, Enzo and so on. We need a real manager that can make a team click fast.

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14 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Definitely an interesting prospect for sure. A Jose Mourinho that is tailored for today's football.

Wasn't that the tag AVB came with?

47 minutes ago, cfr95 said:

Wasn't that the tag AVB came with?

Shows you how bad Potter is that even AVB would seem like a huge upgrade 🙂 

12 hours ago, Jackson27 said:

If Potter Is Sacked Before The Season Is Done, Gotta Get Someone With Excellent Football Manager Stats, The Data On There Don't Lie 

Do you have to hold shift every time you start a new word or does your key board automatically capitalise the first letter of every word? Does make me smile when i read your posts. 

10 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

There were people in September thinking that Potter could get more out of our attackers than Tuchel (who was holding them back apparently), despite his awful scoring stats at Brighton. It's good to do due dilligence on managers 😂

TBF Potter's xG was actually very good at Brighton. The due diligence showed that he can coach a scoring team but didn't have the players at his disposal to achieve it. 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. 

35 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

TBF Potter's xG was actually very good at Brighton. The due diligence showed that he can coach a scoring team but didn't have the players at his disposal to achieve it. 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. 

Interesting you've posted that. as I actually did a bit of digging on FBRef last week to have a look at Brighton's xG last season.

It wasn't anywhere near as amazing as I was expecting to find !

They scored 42 PL goals in their 38 games, from an xG of 46.2, so it was only 4.2 less goals than expected. Before their good end to the season, the average xG per game (first 30 games) was only 1.15, which is the period where I was expecting to see a much bigger difference. In their good 8 game end of season run, they scored 16 goals from an xG of 11.8 ;  surely that is more indicative of above average finishing than any great attacking coaching patterns to create chances ?

I'm not quite sure what all the media fluff pieces about Potter's xG at Brighton have been based on 🙂 

The source data is at this link: https://fbref.com/en/squads/d07537b9/2021-2022/Brighton-and-Hove-Albion-Stats for anyone interested ... 

 

39 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Interesting you've posted that. as I actually did a bit of digging on FBRef last week to have a look at Brighton's xG last season.

It wasn't anywhere near as amazing as I was expecting to find !

They scored 42 PL goals in their 38 games, from an xG of 46.2, so it was only 4.2 less goals than expected. Before their good end to the season, the average xG per game (first 30 games) was only 1.15, which is the period where I was expecting to see a much bigger difference. In their good 8 game end of season run, they scored 16 goals from an xG of 11.8 ;  surely that is more indicative of above average finishing than any great attacking coaching patterns to create chances ?

I'm not quite sure what all the media fluff pieces about Potter's xG at Brighton have been based on 🙂 

The source data is at this link: https://fbref.com/en/squads/d07537b9/2021-2022/Brighton-and-Hove-Albion-Stats for anyone interested ... 

 

Think it was back in the 2021 season it was more evident:

 

Edited February 28, 20233 yr by RIP Mourinho

13 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Compared to Jose's stint in Portugal. 

Always been a fan, and I hope we are having a look at him. I reckon he is the next big manager.

Conceicao at Porto has a similar style to Jose.