23 minutes ago, Term_X said:

Juventus are being linked with De Zerbi, so in an ideal world (given the fact Boehly is clearly going to be stubborn and stick with Potter) Juventus hire De Zerbi, then Juve get hit with further punishments, their appeals go tits up resulting in turmoil, thus, we go in for the clean swoop. 

Summer 2023: De Zerbi > Juventus

December 2023: Potter finally sacked

December 2023: De Zerbi > Chelsea

 

Going to be very concerned financially if we are sacking Potter in December vs in the next coming weeks/end of the season. 

 

5 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Source?

 

Pub 

1 hour ago, Haku said:

I'm a Juve fan who's mildly curious about the PL and sometimes skims various PL forums just to see what fans say about current situations, so I happened on this topic here because your managerial situation is quite peculiar. And as a Juve fan I have to reply to your comment with: LMAO.

Allegri is still with us simply because of the bond we have with him and the deep affection we all feel for him as a person - he's probably the Juve manager I like the most in terms of personality among the ones we had in my life; but if I were any other club I'd never choose him. He (barely) works for us because his style and our identity have melded together over the years, but he's fading and I really struggle to imagine him having success at another club. Anyway I highly doubt he'd ever leave Italy. Also, he wouldn't accept an offer unless he was already fired from Juve, he's not that kind of guy.

Why don't you rate Pochettino? I don't know him that well but he always seemed like a good coach and one of the best options out there for you.

As for Mourinho, who some of you guys also mentioned, he's completely past it as well. You'd be as crazy to choose him as you'd be in choosing Allegri.

Pochettino was the Spurs manager that made them a top 4 team, he took over PSG after Tuchel got sacked and came to us. It would be a huge mistake to put any kind of trust in Pochettino, he should never be CFC's manager.

I also believe that Allegri is fading, but the only possible way for him to not fade away is to try something new, something else.

He is after all a great tactician, I still remember his immortal match against Spurs in the CL knockouts when Juventus beat Pochettino's team at the sold out Wembley. And who knows, maybe his style actually works better in the PL, he wouldn't be the first Italian to do well.

Edited March 1, 20233 yr by Gol15

2 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Going to be very concerned financially if we are sacking Potter in December vs in the next coming weeks/end of the season. 

 

I hope the owners are not going to wait a few games into next season before making the decision. Never know though, we might be brilliant then there's no decision to make 😙😙😙

4 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Absolutely no one involved with Celtic welcome at Chelsea i'm afraid. 

Why is that? I hope it’s not some religious reason?

sh*t sources claiming Enrique turned down Brazil waiting for Chelsea. 

54 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Pochettino was the Spurs manager that made them a top 4 team, he took over PSG after Tuchel got sacked and came to us. It would be a huge mistake to put any kind of trust in Pochettino, he should never be CFC's manager.

I also believe that Allegri is fading, but the only possible way for him to not fade away is to try something new, something else.

He is after all a great tactician, I still remember his immortal match against Spurs in the CL knockouts when Juventus beat Pochettino's team at the sold out Wembley. And who knows, maybe his style actually works better in the PL, he wouldn't be the first Italian to do well.

Making Spurs a top 4 team was bad for us but a good achievement for him, even Conte is struggling to do that. I do feel Spurs had a better squad back then though, Kane, Eriksen, Lloris and Walker were all world class players.

I think better options will be available end of season. Good managers don’t often jump ship mid season for the position we are in. Possible Good managers will see out what they are doing this season with their teams before leaving. Successful mangers in work can also negotiate better deals than out of work managers or managers that aren’t doing so well. 
 

To at least get a good feel factor back have an interim within the club until the summer. Whilst using the time to find out who’s interested come the end of the season.

26 minutes ago, Richard P said:

I think better options will be available end of season. Good managers don’t often jump ship mid season for the position we are in. Possible Good managers will see out what they are doing this season with their teams before leaving. Successful mangers in work can also negotiate better deals than out of work managers or managers that aren’t doing so well. 
 

To at least get a good feel factor back have an interim within the club until the summer. Whilst using the time to find out who’s interested come the end of the season.

Honestly would take the fat Spanish waiter for a few months till summer over Potter, he didn't do badly the last time he was interim

Agreed, I don't think any top level manager would cut ties with their employer towards the business end of the season. Would I prefer an interim right now? Absolutely, whoever comes in will be focused on results, a clear sign that you dont perform you are out whether you are on a 5 or 8 year contract. Send few of those not wanted players to the youth team since the interim only here for a short and good time, solve the beloated squad problem.  The best case this interim maybe appointed for real next year. If it turns into sh1t ( it's hard to imagine someone could do worse), stick with Plan B and hire a real manager next season when there are available.

4 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

sh*t sources claiming Enrique turned down Brazil waiting for Chelsea. 

Normally I’d say no but I’m desperate for anyone half decent. Give him an interim role with targets, if he achieves them then he gets a contract.

Top 6 finish. Christ, we’ve fallen hard this season.

Let's be the first football club to go with ChatBot as manager... great success 🥸🥸🥸

5 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

sh*t sources claiming Enrique turned down Brazil waiting for Chelsea. 

Would Brazil appoint a none Brazilian as manager?

Also LE showed how to fail epically with a squad of class players at the world cup. Do we want that as our next manager?

18 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Would Brazil appoint a none Brazilian as manager?

Also LE showed how to fail epically with a squad of class players at the world cup. Do we want that as our next manager?

International management is different from club management though, and I don't think Spain's squad is that amazing (particularly their front line). Messi also said Enrique is the best coach he's had alongside Guardiola.

 

Then again, literally anyone would have a good chance at winning the CL with Messi-Suarez-Neymar up front, so it's hard to judge how good he actually is.

31 minutes ago, TheRealDavidK said:

Let's be the first football club to go with ChatBot as manager... great success 🥸🥸🥸

I'm pretty sure the media is using ChatBot to find excuses for Potter at this point, they have a new one every week

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Would Brazil appoint a none Brazilian as manager?

Also LE showed how to fail epically with a squad of class players at the world cup. Do we want that as our next manager?

Brazilian I know on another forum stated the general consensus among Brazilians is that they want a European manager. 
 

Enrique isn’t my first choice, but he is a choice. 

Don't know who I would want if he was sacked. Probably uncle Carlo or Zidane (despite language barrier)

I definitely do not want enrique (suck boring football) or poch (ex spud, loser)

I was one of the few (3 or so) that voted for Pochettino when we had this poll back around August last year when Tuchel left. I remember some posters laughing at my suggestion and being very much in a minority. So i'm a little surprised to see he's top of the pile this time around (18 votes?)

Poch still lives in the UK, Hadley Wood, just north of Greater London, to be precise. Currently out of work so could start tomorrow. Did an amazing job at Spurs where he was a God. Lest we forget, save for an incredibly dodgy penalty gifted to Liverpool in Madrid, Poch was that close to lifting the Champions League. I would bring him in immediately…..and before next Tuesday to give us half a chance of progression in the Champs League. Under Potter, we are without doubt going out of the competition…..and remaining rudderless going forward. 

16 minutes ago, Tubbs Tattsyrup said:

Poch still lives in the UK, Hadley Wood, just north of Greater London, to be precise. Currently out of work so could start tomorrow. Did an amazing job at Spurs where he was a God. Lest we forget, save for an incredibly dodgy penalty gifted to Liverpool in Madrid, Poch was that close to lifting the Champions League. I would bring him in immediately…..and before next Tuesday to give us half a chance of progression in the Champs League. Under Potter, we are without doubt going out of the competition…..and remaining rudderless going forward. 

My only concern is that reaching back too far for past glories can be dangerous in assessing a manager in the current climate. I think our attraction for Mourinho II was on the legacy of Mourinho I whereas we should have looked closer at some of the character changes in the more recent appointments.  Character traits that continue to deteriorate if the reports from Italy are accurate. 

Poch did indeed do extremely well at Spurs and turned Southampton into a different club altogether.  He did have rave reviews regarding the intensity and technical quality of his training session at a time when Mourinho had set the benchmark for focused intense training.

I wouldn't mind this guy if he a) hasn't mellowed from those core values or b) hasn't morphed into an egotistical tw@t where it is all about him now.

15 hours ago, Term_X said:

Mudryk can overtake Hazard in Chelsea folklore if he arrives.

De Zerbi is successfully adopting Arteta & Guardiola’s tactical approaches with his systems on and off the ball, Potter was unable to get Brighton going the way the Italian has done. As an Englishman, I genuinely don’t see an ‘elite’ English coach doing what an average italian coach can do, the understanding is just different. We talk about the risk involved with De Zerbi but there are already clear examples during his short spell at Brighton to suggest he can handle the big egos or dressing room issues. 

“De Zerbi’s character and personality is perhaps the biggest difference between him and Potter. Football journalist Guillem Balague has said that De Zerbi: “Is 5’10 but when he walks into a room it is like he is 6’5 – he looks bigger, he has aura and a great personality.”

Where Potter’s football seemed to be extremely practical and based on the process, De Zerbi’s Brighton play with more passion. De Zerbi is more attentive to tactics, his work sessions they are less heavy from a physical point of view, but you always have to stay awake and attentive mentally.

 

Potter = squad building yes man, more physical training sessions

De Zerbi = tactics, tactics and tactics. 

As we all know, Pep compliments every manager but you have to look closely at his words to distinguish the real compliments from the fake, he stated that De Zerbi is someone he follows and learns from. 

 

This is in no way directed at you, but if De Zerbi is so great, why on Earth didn’t we go and get him from wherever Brighton did in the first place? How was he left for Brighton to hire, by I guess not only us? If only someone in the club’s employee was aware of such top managerial talent out there.

12 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Honestly would take the fat Spanish waiter for a few months till summer over Potter, he didn't do badly the last time he was interim

WTF

Ancelotti- What makes us think we can go poach a manager from Real Madrid. He maybe not winning the league but they just knocked out Liverpool in the Champions League and they are all about that trophy. Not happening surely

Zidane - He seems very picky about his job and he would have been in management already if something he wanted come up and I dont think the Chelsea job is gonna be appealing to him with our history of hiring and firing. Surely he will want a sure thing when he walks into a job.

De Zerbi - Are we really going to go back to Brighton for their manager again?

For me the options are Enrique or Poch and I would choose Enrique because he's actually won something and can deal with big players.

1 hour ago, Sheva said:

Ancelotti- What makes us think we can go poach a manager from Real Madrid. He maybe not winning the league but they just knocked out Liverpool in the Champions League and they are all about that trophy. Not happening surely

Zidane - He seems very picky about his job and he would have been in management already if something he wanted come up and I dont think the Chelsea job is gonna be appealing to him with our history of hiring and firing. Surely he will want a sure thing when he walks into a job.

De Zerbi - Are we really going to go back to Brighton for their manager again?

For me the options are Enrique or Poch and I would choose Enrique because he's actually won something and can deal with big players.

 

For me, it would be Poch, I think he would make us competitive again.

He knows the EPL better than Enrique.

Enrique's Spain though competitive lacked a cutting edge.