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Welcome home Super Frank

dansubrosa
in General Chelsea FC

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It's a win win for Lampard, his stock is very low at the moment. If he does well, he's all set for another job.

If he fails everyone knows this year we're a basket case, so it was impossible, but he heroically tried.

In the first instance we both win, in the second only Frank does.

    I’ve just had a look back at the “bad patch” he had as our manager last time that got him sacked - keep in mind we were top of the league before this run

    Eve (a) - Loss (hard place to go, we always struggle here)

    wolves (a) - loss (a bad loss)

    westham (h) - won

    arsenal (a) - loss (can happen away at arsenal)

    villa (h) - draw (a bad draw)

    city (h) - loss (again happens in our best years)

    fulham (a) - won

    Leicester (a) - loss (when they were good and top 4 contenders)

     

    now I’m not saying this is amazing but it’s not like he was consistently losing to crap teams. 

    just thought this was interesting to look back on 

     

     

    So the Mail was the first paper to see this coming.

    Not the worst decision to close out the season if we are waiting to the Summer to appoint a new manager.

    The Independent thinks Conte is also in contention for the long term job, really hope they are misinformed.

     

     

     

    18 minutes ago, Blueboys said:

    I’ve just had a look back at the “bad patch” he had as our manager last time that got him sacked - keep in mind we were top of the league before this run

    Eve (a) - Loss (hard place to go, we always struggle here)

    wolves (a) - loss (a bad loss)

    westham (h) - won

    arsenal (a) - loss (can happen away at arsenal)

    villa (h) - draw (a bad draw)

    city (h) - loss (again happens in our best years)

    fulham (a) - won

    Leicester (a) - loss (when they were good and top 4 contenders)

     

    now I’m not saying this is amazing but it’s not like he was consistently losing to crap teams. 

    just thought this was interesting to look back on 

     

     

    It wasn't so much the results but the way we were playing.

    We had no even basic structure whatsoever and he wasn't even doing what he was suppose to guarantee (youth and good foootball). We were playing like Pulis' Stoke without the being tough to beat element.

    What's interesting here is that Lampard did better within the restraints of a transfer ban. His sacking was in part owing to a bad run of form off the back of a lot of money spent on transfers. Those included: 

    • Chillwell 
    • Werner
    • Ziyech 
    • Havertz

    Other than Chillwell, you would have to say the other three have mostly failed (or struggled) under both Tuchel & Potter, so arguably the players just weren't up to par. 

    So I wonder if, given Lampard did so well at bringing through some academy players, if Boehly & Co want to see a new perspective on some of our recent signings? We'll definitely need to clear a lot of players out this summer. 

     

     

     

    If I remember rightly we were rubbish at the back and Rudiger wasn't getting a game. He would have done well to get JT in as defensive coach. 

    Good to have Frank back involved with the club, I said on another thread, not a lot to play for this season to be honest, maybe a Europa place and a bit further in the CL,   more hope than expectation for me.  Let's hope he salvages some pride more than anything. 

      

    26 minutes ago, andy said:

    If I remember rightly we were rubbish at the back and Rudiger wasn't getting a game. He would have done well to get JT in as defensive coach. 

    Good to have Frank back involved with the club, I said on another thread, not a lot to play for this season to be honest, maybe a Europa place and a bit further in the CL,   more hope than expectation for me.  Let's hope he salvages some pride more than anything. 

      

    Defense was actually reasonably okay for the standards of a Frank managed team after Silva and Mendy arrived, it was going forward where the big struggle was in the end.

    We struggled at the basic elements of build up play and the times we did manage to stumble our way into dangerous situations our only answer was to get it out to James, Ziyech, Callum or Chilwell and throw it into the mixer, it was utterly excruciating.

    Why does JT as defensive coach keep getting banded about? He oversaw the worst defense in the league at Villa and has admitted himself he isn't at the required level as a coach.

    Edited by Argo

    5 minutes ago, Argo said:

    Defense was actually reasonably okay for the standards of a Frank managed team after Silva and Mendy arrived, it was actually going forward where the big struggle was in the end.

    We struggled at the basic elements of build up play and the times we did manage to stumble our way into dangerous situations our only answer was to get it out to James, Ziyech or Chilwell and throw it into the mixer, it was utterly excruciating.

    Why does JT as defensive coach keep getting banded about? He oversaw the worst defense in the league at Villa and has admitted himself he isn't at the required level as a coach.

    The problem with the defense is Kante ... if he's there even a shyte defense is ok - if he's not then we're in trouble...

    I could also say that ... the problem with the attack is Kante ... if he's there then...

    Having said that Enzo with a reliable defensive partner might be enough... it's hard to tell at the moment because we're just not firing on all 4 cylinders...

    I don't have the stats but I sort of recall Frank's problems beginning when Kante got injured... we should get Bellingham to succeed him if we can.

    38 minutes ago, Hessleboink said:

    What's interesting here is that Lampard did better within the restraints of a transfer ban. His sacking was in part owing to a bad run of form off the back of a lot of money spent on transfers. Those included: 

    • Chillwell 
    • Werner
    • Ziyech 
    • Havertz

    Other than Chillwell, you would have to say the other three have mostly failed (or struggled) under both Tuchel & Potter, so arguably the players just weren't up to par. 

    So I wonder if, given Lampard did so well at bringing through some academy players, if Boehly & Co want to see a new perspective on some of our recent signings? We'll definitely need to clear a lot of players out this summer. 

     

     

     

    Good shout regard him doing better within the restraints of the transfer ban. 

    6 hours ago, Michael said:

    For everyone saying they don't like it and what not, it's nine matches and that's it, it's not like it's a permanent spot.  A club legend coming back (again) can't be a bad thing and the players, you would think, will perform better due to respect of an all time great.  We also don't know the situations of our top targets and it gives us time to make the right decision.  As much as I hate to admit it we don't really stand a chance in the CL, no matter who is leading us, so we have nothing to lose here, and neither does Frank.  He's had a rough run with us and then Everton so he has nothing to lose as no prem club would be looking at him now but if he actually does well for us it could lead to something positive for Frank himself, whether that's back in the EFL or even abroad.  I think people are being a bit too over critical in a season that is dead anyway.  Let's just end the season on a good note with a club legend as interim manager and play some fun attacking football!

    lol he is a awful manager and our next fixtures are hard

    maybe we will fighting for relegation

    For there to even be a danger of relegation at this point we'll have to pick up no more than 3/4 points while 7 teams below us all go from averaging 1 point a game to 1.5.

    It's not something to brag about and it's damaging that it's even being mentioned but it's embarrassing if anyone is seriously suggesting it may happen.

    I don't know why people are viewing this so negatively.

    Frank isn't here to fix anything, he's here to buy time to find a long term replacement. I think the club was fine with Bruno until those comments came out, they just need someone in that position. 

    Very few people are actually going to be interested in a short term, interim job like this. They picked the right guy. Frank will bring back a bit of excitement within the fans leading into the summer after the horrendous season, and hopefully get the players playing with a bit more passion. I think that's all we could hope for at this point. And he knows that this is temporary, that it isn't going to end with bad feelings, he's probably doing this as a favour for his club.

    For those that are upset about this, what would your realistic alternative be without rushing for a long term replacement?

     

    Edited by Lampsy

    2 hours ago, Stas1 said:

    Not sure about this. Everyone talks about morale boost, and nobody talks about tactical knowledge and performance training, as if morale boost somehow will sharpen up our game. Of course, we might run faster for a few coming games, but still will be headless chickens without any directional sense or purpose. Others suggest it is an operation Saving Private Mount. Favouritism at somebody else's expense? Rudiger 2?  Obviously, I wish Frank well, but I fear it is going to end up in a bitter disappointment again. 

    An interim isn't expected to come in and stamp a complete new tactical system in place. He's basically here to lift spirits and get the squad playing together again, which Potter couldn't manage. Don't expect to see a tactical revamp until the next manager comes in in Summer, see this as RDM in 2012.

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