13 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

 

Going to be very interesting to see if Maresca can coax a player out of a few of the players (eg. Broja) that most fans have already written off.

I think there might be a couple of surprises in terms of who Maresca "rates".

48 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Going to be very interesting to see if Maresca can coax a player out of a few of the players (eg. Broja) that most fans have already written off.

I think there might be a couple of surprises in terms of who Maresca "rates".

Totally agree. But in the case of Broja I really would be gobsmacked if he makes it here.

Plenty of deadwood to get rid of, including our Albanian friend.

I’m worried already if reports are true about Sánchez being our number 1 . His worst attribute is his playing out from the back but according to the reporters that’s his strength according Maresca . 2 positions we needed badly a goalkeeper and a forward and we still haven’t signed anyone 

42 minutes ago, Aussie79 said:

I’m worried already if reports are true about Sánchez being our number 1 . His worst attribute is his playing out from the back but according to the reporters that’s his strength according Maresca . 2 positions we needed badly a goalkeeper and a forward and we still haven’t signed anyone 

I think you guys are making this deal too complicated. First of all keeper needs to be able to stop shots. Sanchez does that well enough. 

Secondly play from the back sides that are good at it can easily circulate the ball between players even close to their goal. We have never done that well and one reason is the keeper. Fact is we haven't really had players that are good at it either never mind the keeper. 

Think about David Luiz. He was super-relaxed with the ball. That is what we need. Keeper and backline of David Luiz level ease. Just like City does. 

I think from the players Reece, Malo, Fofana, new guy from Fulham, Cucu can be pretty relaxed, head up, comfortable with the ball under pressure. Others not so sure. 

Sanchez' problem is he made horror mistakes with the ball. He chose wrong many times that either cost us or nearly cost us. He is well relaxed. He needs defenders and other outfield players to be relaxed as well. I think Sanchez couldn't trust all of them. 

With proper training he can do much better. The team work and mentality of it is key.

Petrovic looks horrified with the ball at his feet just like Cahill few years back. That is something you can't teach I think. This is why we are looking to move Petro and trying to find a ball playing keeper.

14 hours ago, yaz said:

I had convinced myself that next season was going to be underwhelming again, but these videos are sure bringing back some optimism. Of course it doesn't mean anything until we see the team play, but there's a different energy to these training videos. Also great to see Maresca being hands on and involved. I think most of last season's training videos showed Poch on the sideline with his arms crossed.

I was just about to post exactly the same type of comment 

Whilst it may be basics, it may be obvious but you just wonder if some of the squad were in effect left to their own devices 

If the HC coach can squeeze just another 10% out of the players well who knows what will happen but for me it’s clear that there seems to be far more attention to detail than seen for many a year when these training videos are posted.

 

14 hours ago, yaz said:

I had convinced myself that next season was going to be underwhelming again, but these videos are sure bringing back some optimism. Of course it doesn't mean anything until we see the team play, but there's a different energy to these training videos. Also great to see Maresca being hands on and involved. I think most of last season's training videos showed Poch on the sideline with his arms crossed.

I was just about to post exactly the same type of comment 

Whilst it may be basics, it may be obvious but you just wonder if some of the squad were in effect left to their own devices 

If the HC coach can squeeze just another 10% out of the players well who knows what will happen but for me it’s clear that there seems to be far more attention to detail than seen for many a year when these training videos are posted.

 

1 hour ago, evissy said:

I think you guys are making this deal too complicated. First of all keeper needs to be able to stop shots. Sanchez does that well enough. 

Secondly play from the back sides that are good at it can easily circulate the ball between players even close to their goal. We have never done that well and one reason is the keeper. Fact is we haven't really had players that are good at it either never mind the keeper. 

Think about David Luiz. He was super-relaxed with the ball. That is what we need. Keeper and backline of David Luiz level ease. Just like City does. 

I think from the players Reece, Malo, Fofana, new guy from Fulham, Cucu can be pretty relaxed, head up, comfortable with the ball under pressure. Others not so sure. 

Sanchez' problem is he made horror mistakes with the ball. He chose wrong many times that either cost us or nearly cost us. He is well relaxed. He needs defenders and other outfield players to be relaxed as well. I think Sanchez couldn't trust all of them. 

With proper training he can do much better. The team work and mentality of it is key.

Petrovic looks horrified with the ball at his feet just like Cahill few years back. That is something you can't teach I think. This is why we are looking to move Petro and trying to find a ball playing keeper.

Sorry but you can’t blame the defenders for stray passes . he’s a decent shot stopper and that’s it de zerbi drooped him because he couldn’t pass out from the back . We only signed him because of Ben Roberts and no offense paying £25 million for him was ridiculous last year of his contract and no club was in for him apart from us . 

12 hours ago, ozboy said:

A good watch and I have no doubt the smiles were staged and I have nothing to compare against but still training is systematic. Holding hands in a group, even though ostensibly about catching a t shirt,  in my opinion, does do some bonding. Once long, long ago I went on a wild life protest mainly to accompany my then girlfriend now wife. We all held hands around the fire on the first morning and dis some kind of chant. It actually worked.

The shooting, no pressure of course, from Madueke was really very accurate. I watch Sydney FC pre match  warm up for many seasons and the shooting is nothing like that. Nothing like it at all.

It took Madueke ages to pull the trigger. 

Took him two weeks to realize Sanchez is sh*t. 
 

 

4 hours ago, Aussie79 said:

Sorry but you can’t blame the defenders for stray passes . he’s a decent shot stopper and that’s it de zerbi drooped him because he couldn’t pass out from the back . We only signed him because of Ben Roberts and no offense paying £25 million for him was ridiculous last year of his contract and no club was in for him apart from us . 

Not blaming defenders per say but you can't succeed in what Maresca wants if other players are not in tune or someone who you safely can pass to. Team work. 

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Took him two weeks to realize Sanchez is sh*t. 
 

 

Fabrizio says it’s all dependent on Kepa. He wants a return to RM as #2 but they already have good cover for the snake in the form of Lunin. He could be leaving if he does seems Kepa is a shoe in. If Kepa does leave Chelsea that will enable a new keeper to be brought in obviously someone Enzo fancies to tick all his boxes. Fingers crossed Kepa goes then although personally I rate him higher than Sanchez who is pony all day, all night and all season long. 

When Ben Roberts first arrived I was pleased because I was impressed with some of the GK drills and training sessions that he did. But as things have developed our poor entire goalkeeping department seems to be getting worse and seems to coincide with the increase in Roberts' influence at the club.

It's quite laughable that we are now being linked with Marcin Bulka who left the club due to a lack of attention to him when all along he was an able number 2 among the plethora of keepers that have come along. Whilst Bulka has been away increasing his profile to pique our interest, we have seen Kepa, Mendy, Bettinelli, Sanchez, Petrovic and Slonina all come in and none have shown that they are any better than what we already had. Ben Roberts has been at the centre of this for an increasing length of time now as this department continues to get its decisions wrong.

Keepers that play with their feet worry me because more often than not, whilst they can use the ball, they are generally poor keepers. Look at Onana. Terrible. 
 

It’s extreme financial mismanagement that we can spend £60m on 3 new goalkeepers and still need one. Bonkers. Such poor planning. 

 

2 minutes ago, JM7 said:

 

Dude, pls send that clip to maresca, somehow sanchez has shown he's better than petrovic in training. No idea how...

Just now, Simplymo said:

Dude, pls send that clip to maresca, somehow sanchez has shown he's better than petrovic in training. No idea how...

I was surprised when someone said that Petrovic is one of the poorest keepers in the PL according to the stats. Is that true?

1 minute ago, JM7 said:

I was surprised when someone said that Petrovic is one of the poorest keepers in the PL according to the stats. Is that true?

No idea, some ppl have posted sanchez is better. I can't recall if that was based on statistics. But as I've said before...for me, he scares the hell out of me every time he's in goal and every time he kicks, passes or throws the ball. His distribution is fkn scary imho.

Wonder how  Gordon Banks  have gone in the modern age. Was he good with his feet?

40 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Wonder how  Gordon Banks  have gone in the modern age. Was he good with his feet?

Good shout. Gordon Banks had retired before I was old enough to be interested in football.

I do think Ray Clemence would have been good in the modern game. He played as a ‘keeper, sweeper’ at his peak with Liverpool. He was very good at reading the game and was decent with his feet.

2 hours ago, Simplymo said:

No idea, some ppl have posted sanchez is better. I can't recall if that was based on statistics. But as I've said before...for me, he scares the hell out of me every time he's in goal and every time he kicks, passes or throws the ball. His distribution is fkn scary imho.

Completely agree. Anyone thinking Sanchez is decent with his feet surely can't have seen him play.

He's complete dogsh*t and we should cut our losses and get rid. Ben Roberts and the Sporting Directors f**ked up big time paying £25m for such dross.

1 hour ago, ozboy said:

Wonder how  Gordon Banks  have gone in the modern age. Was he good with his feet?

There isn't a single keeper who was good with his feet even up to Cech simply cause they didn't need to be. Sit through any English game of the past for example  Chelsea when Beasant was in goal it's just him kicking the ball long to Dixon-Wilson - Durie etc. @erskblue Is talking bollocks  Ray Clemence was never a sweeper keeper at Liverpool or Spurs I have no idea where he got that from. There was a game from 1979 recently on the big match revisited I only watched it cause Chelsea were also on between Arsenal and Liverpool it finished 0-0 and it was just Pat Jennings kicking it long it would land at Ray Clemence who would kick it long back it was dire stuff.

Goalkeepers doesn't matter what level of football you played went in goal cause either they were tall (honestly it was that simplistic) or they liked the game but were absolutely terrible footballers so only had one option go in goal the likes of Bonetti, Banks, Shilton, Clemence, Corrigan, Parkes etc all outstanding keepers you'd be hard pressed to find a clip of them passing a ball 10 yards it just wasn't required. And go back like I said Cech used to hit it long to Drogba a hell of a lot. 

 

15 hours ago, ozboy said:

Wonder how  Gordon Banks  have gone in the modern age. Was he good with his feet?

I watched Gordon Banks play in the early 60''s  & in those days keepers weren't expected to dribble past the offence . His distribution was good & in those days the keeper would throw the ball out to his defence quite a lot.

1 hour ago, gurru991 said:

I watched Gordon Banks play in the early 60''s  & in those days keepers weren't expected to dribble past the offence . His distribution was good & in those days the keeper would throw the ball out to his defence quite a lot.

Yes. Thinking about it, the changed requirement follows the rule change that prevents the back pass to the goalie. I do think accurate throwing is a real skill.

Edited July 22, 20241 yr by ozboy

16 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Yes. Thinking about it, the changed requirement follows the rule change that prevents the back pass to the goalie. I do think accurate throwing is a real skill.

The keepers in the 60's/70's were very good at distributing the ball by throwing it out.  It worked every bit as well as the keeper passing it out.

On 20/07/2024 at 09:37, ozboy said:

The shooting, no pressure of course, from Madueke was really very accurate. I watch Sydney FC pre match  warm up for many seasons and the shooting is nothing like that. Nothing like it at all.

Trust me, it's not much better on the training pitch at Macquarie Park haha. 

In the first few seasons I did enjoy the GK coach, Jim Fraser, absolutely nailing perfect crosses from the corner time after time!