6 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

He has been saved in big games by Cole Palmer on a number of occasions.

That’s the crux of it.

We have too much quality to fix his errors, so Top 4 will always be possible every season.

Sporting directors are fine with it, so sacking him won’t ever look plausible unless they raise their standards. Given we’ve been lied to about CL qualification raising the quality of transfers, they’re completely fine with battling with Top 4 every season.

Standards at this club have dropped to Spurs levels. Revolting behaviour and mindset to think anything other than a title at the end of the season is acceptable.

What's frustrating is we are so so close to being a team that can challenge for the league and CL and I think appointing a top manager resolves most of our issues.

United are second 😂😂 obviously they won’t stay their but just shows how sh*te we have been.

12 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

You're not just rotating though, you're making changes to almost the entire 11. Technically he can get away with saying that, but nobody in the game considers it to be rotation when you're changing 7-11 players in every game.

We need a balance, a team that can build chemistry.

Duh!! Of course you can't play the same XI across a whole season. Even if player fatigue wasn't a problem, suspensions, injuries, squad harmony, would all garuantee changes would have to be made at some points. It's accepted that rotation is something all managers will have to do occaisionally. But it is a question of the degree of rotation and the actual necessity of it.

Rotation isn't a problem in itself, it is the level of rotation, the amount of players chopped in and out, and the frequency that happens, which for Mental Maresca, is every bloody game.

This is yet another press conference where he makes another stupid statement that he thinks is a clever answer but really only highlights his stubborness and lack of intelligence.

It's going to take us losing 10 games in a row for the idiots upstairs to sack him isn't it?

46 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

It's going to take us losing 10 games in a row for the idiots upstairs to sack him isn't it?

The BlueCo PR machine would spin it as ‘unrivalled consistency’

1 hour ago, Victor90 said:

It's going to take us losing 10 games in a row for the idiots upstairs to sack him isn't it?

Yep it is and I don’t think even then rhey will sack him. They will want to save face

On tiptoeing in, I write my first post.

Sure Chelsea supporters are used to more than that, but I can't be that negative about Maresca...and I'm certainly not saying this to defend the fact that he's Italian...for me it's not for sure an added value, indeed...

It's true, this year in particular there is too much turnover but Chelsea's matches have always been well played and above all we put many young players on the pitch every time.

Surely there are better coaches with much more experience than Maresca who (perhaps) would make the team play better. But are there so many?

Obviously sorry for this banal post, mine is certainly not an objective judgment because unfortunately I always have before my eyes the sad show of football matches in Italy...and when I see a Chelsea match, whether it wins or it gets lost, it beats my heart out...now almost like when I watch a Sampdoria match.

Back in the shadows reading and learning...🙂

Does Marescas rotation contribute to more injuries than help by managing minutes?

Tough to prove, but Pulisic was commented on this. Something to the effect of the rotation and stop start at Chelsea made it difficult to feel in peak condition.

Makes me wonder if players should be more consistently used. Arsenal don’t really rotate their midfield and defense and have little impact from it.

Maresca is always searching for solutions and that was the case again today. We were terrible in the first half and only really took control when Estevao came on. When we win, it always takes a little moment of individual quality to make it happen, it rarely feels like it is because of Maresca's tactics.

This surprised me , still wish he’d cut out mass rotation & his now found out fullbacks up top !

2 minutes ago, General said:

This surprised me , still wish he’d cut out mass rotation & his now found out fullbacks up top !

This is why it's hard for me to pay attention to stats, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone on here that's been impressed with how we've played since Maresca came in. The majority of the time rubbish even when we do scrape wins.

1 hour ago, General said:

This surprised me , still wish he’d cut out mass rotation & his now found out fullbacks up top !

Does this include conference league?

If it does, you can scrap that stats

11 hours ago, just said:

Duh!! Of course you can't play the same XI across a whole season. Even if player fatigue wasn't a problem, suspensions, injuries, squad harmony, would all garuantee changes would have to be made at some points. It's accepted that rotation is something all managers will have to do occaisionally. But it is a question of the degree of rotation and the actual necessity of it.

Rotation isn't a problem in itself, it is the level of rotation, the amount of players chopped in and out, and the frequency that happens, which for Mental Maresca, is every bloody game.

This is yet another press conference where he makes another stupid statement that he thinks is a clever answer but really only highlights his stubborness and lack of intelligence.

Nah he is not stupid. The moment he said Sancho fit the way he want to play more than Sterling, I know what we will get with Maresca.

6 points behind Arsenal.

With this pi$$ easy start to the season we should be top.

Brentford three away 2 easy points.

In front at home to both Brighton and Sunderland and left with 0 points.

Nevermind other matches, 8 more points, top. Thrown away by our own stupidity.

On 06/11/2025 at 23:08, Valerie said:

At least we beat that entitled bunch of sorry c**ts from my neck of the woods. That's what I'm clinging on to this season.

And still I want Fraudo gone, preferably with SDs in tow.

Then our owner will bring similar SDs who will hire similar manager.

We may be 2nd in the table, but our current points per game only extrapolates to 69 points for the season. I thought the standard of the top PL teams was poor last season, but this year it is even worse LOL.

We're not really making any progress and the football is pretty turgid ... no doubt Maresca's contract extension and pay rise will be announced shortly !

There were times yesterday when the player with the ball had acres of space to run into and wolves players were out of position.

What do you think those players did ?

Have a wild guess.

They stopped, slowed down the play and pass it back to the CBs.

I have no freaking words for this stupidity by £land Pep.

You could hear the groans from the fans too when they did it.

2 minutes ago, El regreso said:

There were times yesterday when the player with the ball had acres of space to run into and wolves players were out of position.

What do you think those players did ?

Have a wild guess.

They stopped, slowed down the play and pass it back to the CBs.

I have no freaking words for this stupidity by £land Pep.

You could hear the groans from the fans too when they did it.

2 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Totally agree with you on this one. It was shameful to watch the defenders passing it backwards and sideways when there was acres of space for them to carry the ball forward, instead it was a safe option to pass the 5 yards to the nearest defender; no wonder the forward players simply remained static. The first half was easy for Wolves to defend as there was little penetration.

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

We may be 2nd in the table, but our current points per game only extrapolates to 69 points for the season. I thought the standard of the top PL teams was poor last season, but this year it is even worse LOL.

We're not really making any progress and the football is pretty turgid ... no doubt Maresca's contract extension and pay rise will be announced shortly !

The PL is so big that there is no more "Top four vs the rest" anymore. And it's been like that for some years now.

Mid table clubs and also the newly promoted one can attract very good players now that it makes it harder for the so called big clubs to just walk the league.

Xhaka is a focal point in the Swiss NT and was a focal point for Leverkusen last year and in the winning league title season. Did not make any difference when a newly promoted Sunderland showed him the money. All these mid table clubs can now bring quality players that some top six German, French, Italian or Spanish clubs can't touch because of their wages.

Something is seriously off when we are 2nd in the table, and still the fans want the fraud gone.

He is clueless. Most certainly it is a case of “despite” Maresca, and not “because “ of him.

Edited November 9, 2025Nov 9 by nonotnowjim

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Something is seriously off when we are 2nd in the table, and still the fans want the fraud gone.

He is clueless. Most certainly it is a case of “despite” Maresca, and not “because “ of him.

I mean we have to question him when even our @Valerie does not like him and calls him fraudo.

There seem to be a few reasons.

1. He is genuinely unlikable.

2. He gives us rare occasional hope of good football only too,

3. Slam us down time and time again with the most boring, turgid football many of us have ever season Chelsea play.

4. While we started the day 2nd we all know the position is false because,

5. We have played mostly the garbage of the league (Brighton, fulham, Brentford, wolves, West Ham, Forest)

6. A couple of so so teams (Palace, Sunderland), who we failed to beat.

7. Two big underperforming side (Spurs and united, who we embarrassed ourselves against) and one of the title challengers (Liverpool). No Newcastle, no Villa, no Bournemouth, no traditional hard matches like Leeds or Everton.

8. given all that we all see our points tally from such a group of fixtures is poor.

9. Add to that he has messed up one of the 4 marches we had to get maximum points from to make the CL top 8 (Qarabag).

10. And finally he starves us of the one player making watching us bareable, Estevao.

Edited November 9, 2025Nov 9 by axman2526

22 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

I mean we have to question him when even our @Valerie does not like him and calls him fraudo.

There seem to be a few reasons.

1. He is genuinely unlikable.

2. He gives us rare occasional hope of good football only too,

3. Slam us down time and time again with the most boring, turgid football many of us have ever season Chelsea play.

4. While we started the day 2nd we all know the position is false because,

5. We have played mostly the garbage of the league (Brighton, fulham, Brentford, wolves, West Ham, Forest)

6. A couple of so so teams (Palace, Sunderland), who we failed to beat.

7. Two big underperforming side (Spurs and united, who we embarrassed ourselves against) and one of the title challengers (Liverpool). No Newcastle, no Villa, no Bournemouth, no traditional hard matches like Leeds or Everton.

8. given all that we all see our points tally from such a group of fixtures is poor.

9. Add to that he has messed up one of the 4 marches we had to get maximum points from to make the CL top 8 (Qarabag).

10. And finally he starves us of the one player making watching us bareable, Estevao.

I hold judgment on number 1 on your list @axman2526 . Perhaps he would have made an amiable chartered surveyor or a pleasant book salesman. He should be encouraged to give one of those careers (or any other) a try. In Italy.