25 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I actually feel bad for keep going in on Rosenior, but SURELY there must be people in the owners' ear saying how terribly this appointment will go down? He's getting the piss taken out of him massively, and that doesn't include the genuine anger some people have.

Also, the senior players must surely be able to push back. Why the f**k would Palmer, James, Fernandez and Caicedo want to be managed by a guy who has never done anything as a player (with all due respect to the EFL Trophy he won with Bristol Rovers) and currently has done nothing as a manager. They didn't move here to be at club happy with mediocrity.

I'm in genuine disbelief that this is happening, it feels like a bad dream.

If there is a smidgen of any comfort with this possible appointment is that it would appear he has been groomed for the role. Im hoping that "fresh" ideas might be welcomed by the group of players. And Rosenor clearly has ambition to either manage top flight footballers, or pick up a pay day and put his name in the shop window. Can see why he'd jump at the chance.

But the downside is the risk, the fact that he isnt a big name tried and tested, seems like another data driven guy, can he inject life into a stale playing side.

If he is appointed, he has my support but only if he can motivate the players and puts them in their best positions. Otherwise what was the point in sacking Maresca...

42 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I actually feel bad for keep going in on Rosenior, but SURELY there must be people in the owners' ear saying how terribly this appointment will go down? He's getting the piss taken out of him massively, and that doesn't include the genuine anger some people have.

Also, the senior players must surely be able to push back. Why the f**k would Palmer, James, Fernandez and Caicedo want to be managed by a guy who has never done anything as a player (with all due respect to the EFL Trophy he won with Bristol Rovers) and currently has done nothing as a manager. They didn't move here to be at club happy with mediocrity.

I'm in genuine disbelief that this is happening, it feels like a bad dream.

Bad dream eh?

So your nightmare is they make Trev player/manager then?

I struggle to think of an equivalent under qualified / not ready for the role appointment in football (or other industries). How can so many see it yet a select few can’t.

With the utmost respect for Rosenior, he simply isn’t ready for the role.

2 hours ago, BS66 said:

I was gutted when we lost Tommy Docherty, and more gutted when he joined Rotherham. Then we had Dave Sexton, who managed for a never to be seen again 7 years. It’s been a revolving door since then and Maresca’s 18 months is probably the average tenure in the last 50 years. Hard to get attached to any of them!

Since Dave Sexton our longest serving 2 managers were John Neal and Claudio Ranieri who both managed 4 seasons. Both probably wouldn't have lasted that long had expectation levels been what they are now though.

Rosenior works as a manager at Strasbourg as they are not one of the top teams in France, let alone Europe. Most of the squad is quite young and no doubt view their time at Strasbourg as an opportunity to get noticed by bigger clubs. It will be totally different at Chelsea where expectation levels are much higher and he is working with a squad that contains a lot of full internationals. My worry is he will struggle to command respect in the dressing room. Hopefully they will give him a chance but things could go bad very quickly.

The only thing to hope for is that we get a "new manager bump" and ride on that for a few games until sh*t hits the fan...but even that's asking for a lot.

I hope to be surprised and proven wrong.

1 hour ago, PhilH930 said:

I struggle to think of an equivalent under qualified / not ready for the role appointment in football (or other industries). How can so many see it yet a select few can’t.

With the utmost respect for Rosenior, he simply isn’t ready for the role.

This board likes to copy other teams, and I feel that with the last two managers, they are trying so hard to get their own Arteta. First, it was Maresca, another student of Guardiola. And now it's another inexperienced former manager. They are obsessed with creating their own manager rather than getting an already proven one.

Edited January 2Jan 2 by Frankie8Lampard

3 hours ago, BS66 said:

I was gutted when we lost Tommy Docherty, and more gutted when he joined Rotherham. Then we had Dave Sexton, who managed for a never to be seen again 7 years. It’s been a revolving door since then and Maresca’s 18 months is probably the average tenure in the last 50 years. Hard to get attached to any of them!

Jesus - Tommy Docherty - those were the days when it was the manager taking the boyz down the pub before kick off lol

You must be older than me !

Have to admit JM was the best for me but I liked Conte and Tuchel too 😁

1 minute ago, Bebe1980 said:

Jesus - Tommy Docherty - those were the days when it was the manager taking the boyz down the pub before kick off lol

You must be older than me !

Have to admit JM was the best for me but I liked Conte and Tuchel too 😁

I think Doc sent half the team home from an away game because they had been out on the town the night before. Perhaps he was annoyed they didn't invite him :)

Santos talking about working with Liam. Sounds like he’s big on emotional intelligence and supporting players. Mind you, we said the same about Potter..

4 hours ago, forbzy said:

Rosenior works as a manager at Strasbourg as they are not one of the top teams in France, let alone Europe. Most of the squad is quite young and no doubt view their time at Strasbourg as an opportunity to get noticed by bigger clubs. It will be totally different at Chelsea where expectation levels are much higher and he is working with a squad that contains a lot of full internationals. My worry is he will struggle to command respect in the dressing room. Hopefully they will give him a chance but things could go bad very quickly.

If we'd employed Rob Edwards of Wolves there'd be uproar. If we'd employed Daniel Farke of Leeds there'd be ridicule. If we'd employed ex player Scott Parker there'd be calls of not ready. All of these have stronger CVs, have managed at a higher level, than Rosenior.

4 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

The only thing to hope for is that we get a "new manager bump" and ride on that for a few games until sh*t hits the fan...but even that's asking for a lot.

I hope to be surprised and proven wrong.

Such an unnecessary risk to take when in a position of weakness.

Any effective successful business manages risk, first and foremost. Only take risks from a position of strength and mitigate risk wherever possible.

This fallout with Maresca is one of relationships. I'm glad it happened because the football was eye wateringly bad. But statistically, whilst we may be on a precipice, if you do not look too closely we have still successfully achieved last seasons objectives, we currently sit 5th in the league, Well placed in all four competitions including one of the berths for advancement in the Champions league.

We now have 9 matches in January, 6 of which are London derbies. Our position in all four of these competitions will be affected in January. Two champions league matches, FA Cup, 1st leg of the League Cup semi final and some tough league matches.

Making this choice at this time displays a shocking level of risk management and illustrates a complete disregard for the pivotal point we are currently at.

If Rosenior is their guy, then the smart move would have been to let him see the season out at Strasbourg and look for a caretaker with a view to a permanent role if things progressed in a different direction.

10 hours ago, OriginalS said:

These are real quotes by our new manager:

“I want them (his players) to feel like they are children"

"No rules or boundaries"

Following a seventh-place finish and a qualification spot for the Conference League with the youngest team in Europe’s top-five leagues, many are curious about Rosenior’s approach to the game. Outside of a daily 10.30am meeting, scheduling is loose. Coaching staff opt against setting specific times for training, instead waiting for the playing squad to feel at their most relaxed and ready following pre-activation and warm-up routines. Strasbourg players are not given curfew times, nor fines for arriving late.

"If you set rules and boundaries on people and they break those rules and boundaries, you create conflict in your group. So for me, the way we work here is we don’t have set times. It might be different at a different club with a different culture, but that’s what works here. And that’s the way that we work.”

“If you have multicultural staff, you improve your players so much quicker,”

Oh dear lord.

I just get the intense feeling this is going to be like when Lampard took over from Potter.

15 minutes ago, Zeta said:

I just get the intense feeling this is going to be like when Lampard took over from Potter.

It’s not going to be that successful.

34 minutes ago, Zeta said:

I just get the intense feeling this is going to be like when Lampard took over from Potter.

LOL. That was my first thought as well.

Lampard was won 1 drawn 2 lost 8 for his 11 games as caretaker, with only 9 goals scored in those 11 games.

A very low bar that I think even Rosenior can get over !

He might even surprise as and do very well based on what Andrey Santos has said about him ...

39 minutes ago, Zeta said:

I just get the intense feeling this is going to be like when Lampard took over from Potter.

I see you are a optimist …..

It’s going to be much worse, I can’t see us getting a win at anytime with this guy in charge.

He shouldn’t be no where near manager of Chelsea FC no even in the top 20 considerations.

Edited January 2Jan 2 by El regreso

If he picks the best players in their best position and plays to the squads strengths, none of the inverted bullsh*t, pissing around at the back with the ball etc. then good luck to him.

I dont care for big name coaches anymore. They all try and copy Peps plan anyway, so it doesn't matter who comes in.

BlueCo seem to have very few options to replace Maresca so I'd say Rosenior is in a strong negotiating position

So if I'm him, I would insist on having a few things hard-wired into my contract to negate all the things that seem to have tripped Maresca up ...

• Complete autonomy in picking the team and managing the match

• No Owner/SD presence in the dressing room unless invited

• No immediate knee-jerk match reviews after the game

It could be interesting if JT gets appointed as interim coach.

What i can't work out is all of this bo**ocks that Rosenior is the "leading" candidate. Is there any evidence that there has been any other manager that has come in for consideration. I have seen no evidence of this at all. Any of the references to other managers all seem to be references conversations at the point that Maresca was appointed. Who exactly is this guy a leading candidate over.

Considering their recent history of negotiation and conducting themselves in a sporting environment, it points far more to the fact that it is just a lazy internal appointment because of their own shortcomings. The next question then, not even being thought about at the moment, does Rosenior even want this job. Everybody knows what he consequences are of turning down an internal promotion at work. What other choice does he really have.

I will be well pissed off with this, I'm trying not to think about it because I'm just so happy Maresca is gone.

But that would mean out of all ClearLake appointments, Pochettino is the most successful manager they've hired lmao... Just let that sink in a second.

20 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

It could be interesting if JT gets appointed as interim coach.

JT will never have any sort of significant role at Chelsea as long as we have these owners. He is too strongly identified with the Roman era, which have they have done everything in their power to date to wipe from the club. The token role he has in the academy set up is probably just lip service to keep the fans on board.

2 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

JT will never have any sort of significant role at Chelsea as long as we have these owners. He is too strongly identified with the Roman era, which have they have done everything in their power to date to wipe from the club. The token role he has in the academy set up is probably just lip service to keep the fans on board.

JT has always been careful wih speaking publicly so don't see this is an issue.

54 minutes ago, dkw said:

none of the inverted bullsh*t,

Rosenior is taking inversion so far he's even inverted his goalkeeper. No joke.