Even sane spud fans know that Bale is not worth nowhere near that. The thing is that Levy is putting out out of the world prices on him because they didn't finish in the Champions League last season. And if they sell Bale even for 80 or so million they're gonna have one hell of a hard time attracting the 30+ priced players to a club with no champions league football. And also Bale is growing them as a football club and as a brand. We don't need that nomore because Chelsea is already worldwide and a brand. But spuds atm. are just that english club that can't finish 4th. Even they keep Bale for another season guessing they'll probably finish 4th (at least) it will grow their club as a brand and make it a more attractive place for players to go.

 

I'm just looking at this through a neutral point of view because the prices attached to him have been insane lately. And surely Levy must not be actually thinking anyone will buy Bale for that kind of money.

It's a new game! What is the best selection of players you could pick up instead of Gareth Bale?

I'll start off:

 De Bruyne (7m) = Gareth Bale (120m)

Just that comparison alone is madness. Infact out of the two you would have to ask yourself who has the best future?

Just that comparison alone is madness. Infact out of the two you would have to ask yourself who has the best future?

Bale.

Better value for money too, lmao

I just keep asking myself, is Bale really that good? Was he doing things that were that much more impressive than for example Hazard that he is being valued three times as much what we paid for him?

I just keep asking myself, is Bale really that good? Was he doing things that were that much more impressive than for example Hazard that he is being valued three times as much what we paid for him?

 

Honestly, I think Bale is overrated and I doubt he will improve at all. Wont be surprised if the 2012/13 season ends up being his best one

I just keep asking myself, is Bale really that good? Was he doing things that were that much more impressive than for example Hazard that he is being valued three times as much what we paid for him?

Based off last seasons? Of course he is. He's overrated but don't take away anything from his actual ability.

 

And yes he was doing more impressive things than Hazard because he was dominating matches and single-handedly winning them games. You're comparing something who has 3 years left on his contract and playing for a club who don't want to sell to Hazard who quite clearly wanted to leave and Lille were looking to cash in, of course the valuation is going to be skewered. 

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Just what Astronomical fee Would Messi go for if he was a Spurs player, hypothetical of course, or pathetic to even mention Messi and spuds in the same breath, Bale at best £30-35 million tops..

Just what Astronomical fee Would Messi go for if he was a Spurs player, hypothetical of course, or pathetic to even mention Messi and spuds in the same breath, Bale at best £30-35 million tops..

Most likely a lot less than what Barcelona would ask for/accept. 

 

Disagree with that valuation personally, I would say around £50m - £60m if we are just throwing numbers out. 

Based off last seasons? Of course he is. He's overrated but don't take away anything from his actual ability.

And yes he was doing more impressive things than Hazard because he was dominating matches and single-handedly winning them games. You're comparing something who has 3 years left on his contract and playing for a club who don't want to sell to Hazard who quite clearly wanted to leave and Lille were looking to cash in, of course the valuation is going to be skewered.

See I just think that Bale was "winning matches single handed" because he is confortably Spurs beat player so their was more responsibility on him to do something to win matches.

Continuing with the Hazard comparison, Hazard had better players around him to share the responsibility.

You say the contractual situation and desire to leave is different but if Bale expresses any sort of desire to leave (which if rumour is to be believed he has) then where is this £85m fee coming from?

Bale has only had one season where he has produced for the whole duration and has little to no European experience.

He is undoubtedly a very talented player and would improve any team in the world.

But £85-100m good? No.

Bale's worth about 40-45m, no more.

See I just think that Bale was "winning matches single handed" because he is confortably Spurs beat player so their was more responsibility on him to do something to win matches.

Continuing with the Hazard comparison, Hazard had better players around him to share the responsibility.

You say the contractual situation and desire to leave is different but if Bale expresses any sort of desire to leave (which if rumour is to be believed he has) then where is this £85m fee coming from?

Bale has only had one season where he has produced for the whole duration and has little to no European experience.

He is undoubtedly a very talented player and would improve any team in the world.

But £85-100m good? No.

Of course those are all valid factors but it's not really relevant to your original post. You asked if he had done more than Hazard to deserve the price being mentioned and the answer is yes.  

 

Levy's unwillingness to sell if where the fee is coming from.

I'm not sure he was that much better than hazard over the full season, and he certainly wasn't better than mata. Hazard was brilliant the first and last parts of the season, bale was average the start and excellent after Xmas.mata was fantastic all season.

Of course those are all valid factors but it's not really relevant to your original post. You asked if he had done more than Hazard to deserve the price being mentioned and the answer is yes.

Levy's unwillingness to sell if where the fee is coming from.

You seem to be focusing on the Hazard part of my post too much Who was just a similar style player and age who is playing in the PL that I used as a quick comparison.

The main point I was trying to make is that the fee Real are rumoured to be willing to offer for Bale would suggest that he is one of the best 3-5 players in the world and I'm questioning is he really that good?

In my opinion he isn't, there's even been a lot of argument as to whether he was even worthy of the POTY award as Mata and RVP for many delivered more consistently over the whole season.

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You seem to be focusing on the Hazard part of my post too much Who was just a similar style player and age who is playing in the PL that I used as a quick comparison.

The main point I was trying to make is that the fee Real are rumoured to be willing to offer for Bale would suggest that he is one of the best 3-5 players in the world and I'm questioning is he really that good?

In my opinion he isn't, there's even been a lot of argument as to whether he was even worthy of the POTY award as Mata and RVP for many delivered more consistently over the whole season.

Well apart from Ronaldo and Ribery, I can't think of any other winger who had a better season than Bale. In that sense he is in the top 3 best players for his position (He was probably in the top 3 for the 11/12 season too) and a possible case could be made to justify that price tag. If it were any other club I would agree and say he isn't worth that much (Not that it matters anyway, players rarely go for what they are actually worth) but for Real, I can see why they would be willing to spend that much. 

I think me and you just have very different views on a players financial worth.

I can in no way, shape or form see how Bale would ever be worth making the most expensive player of all time but as you have admitted you think a case can be made to justify it.

Personally I think for a player that's done nothing of note in Europe and has arguably only had one outstaning full season to be valued so highly is crazy but more fool Real if they actually part with the money.

Final thought, FFP, what a load of old bullsh*t that is turning out to be.

The price isnt a reflective on bale's financial worth. Madrid are offering the money required for Tottenham to consider selling.

If bale had an identical season at fulham, then the price would be 30m.

If madrid can afford it, and he goes on to be success there, the transfer would be considered a good deal, regardless of yhe fee.

The price isnt a reflective on bale's financial worth. Madrid are offering the money required for Tottenham to consider selling.

If bale had an identical season at fulham, then the price would be 30m.

If madrid can afford it, and he goes on to be success there, the transfer would be considered a good deal, regardless of yhe fee.

Thing is they spent £80m on Ronaldo and have only won two trophies.

Is that a good return for the financial out put in terms of on the pitch success?

Now they're looking at throwing another £80m+ on one player.... It just makes no sense to me.

He's going to be overshadowed so badly at Madrid. He does what he does at Spurs because the strikers are so useless and the midfield doesn't have that many goals in them, at Madrid if he starts trying to run the length of the field every time he gets the ball, expect him to cop an ear full from CR7, Benzema and Ozil.

I think Reus is better than Bale.

Bale just keeps getting better and better. Any team in the world would be lucky to have him IMO, though the price being mentioned is absolutely ridiculous. He's easily worth 50 million for me though.

"I don't know what Bale is worth. Honestly, I haven't seen him play a full match," said Xavi.

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/barcelonas-xavi-questions-the-true-value-of-gareth-bale-8740005.html

 

Anyone think he may fail at Madrid? Got plenty of attacking options.I'm hoping Isco struggles to get games so we can snap him up.Still Barca got Neymar and for me hes the better player.

Being connected with 24 year old Romanian CB from Bucharest, Vlad Chiriches. Love that first name...

 

Apparently this guy maybe on the move to Spurs.

Anyone think he may fail at Madrid? Got plenty of attacking options.I'm hoping Isco struggles to get games so we can snap him up.Still Barca got Neymar and for me hes the better player.

The major reason he has flourished with Spurs is the 4-3-3 variation AVB plays which he also employed with Porto moving Hulk closer to the forward, and allowing both players a freedom to drift and do as they like on the flanks. If you watch Bale closely last season, he had little defensive responsibilities and left Vertoghen and Assou Ekotto exposed at the back. No way is he getting that freedom at Madrid while Ronaldo is still there, and a closer look at his stats reveals he made only 4 assists all season. That shows you he wasn't a team player and an argument can be made that Spurs was set-up in a way to get the best out of him. At Madrid for starters he won't be taking set-pieces and I just don't find him marketable ala the other players Madrid have broken the transfer records for. Kaka, Zidane, Ronaldo and Figo were all World Players of The Year before making the move to Madrid, but if you ask most Madrid fans they have no clue who he is. Took a while for those Madridstas to warm up to Modric, you can just imagine how harsh they will be to Bale when he comes with a world record tag.