7 hours ago, DarkMata said:

I thought Arsenal want £50m for him

Ive seen between 35 and 40 mil quoted in other news sources, which for a 22yr old player whos just put 21 goals away in a decent league isnt bad at all. But as we know, theres one price for chelsea and another for everyone else.

Chelsea want to sign Elye Wahi from Montpellier and are set to make a first offer this week. The French club hopes for €30M.

(Source: @lequipe)

He's 19, is Phillip Schofield the head of recruitment?

Edited July 10, 20233 yr by Sheva

1 minute ago, Sheva said:

Chelsea want to sign Elye Wahi from Montpellier and are set to make a first offer this week. The French club hopes for €30M. (Source:

(@lequipe)

He's 19, is Phillip Schofield the head of recruitment?

Or the high-profile BBC presenter currently suspended?

14 minutes ago, Sheva said:

Chelsea want to sign Elye Wahi from Montpellier and are set to make a first offer this week. The French club hopes for €30M.

(Source: @lequipe)

He's 19, is Phillip Schofield the head of recruitment?

We've signed Ishe Samuels-Smith from Everton last week, he's 17  

57 minutes ago, Sheva said:

Chelsea want to sign Elye Wahi from Montpellier and are set to make a first offer this week. The French club hopes for €30M.

(Source: @lequipe)

He's 19, is Phillip Schofield the head of recruitment?

€30m him and €25 for Franco, am I the only one who thinks these young cheap players we are buying aren't that cheap anymore?

Sloninia - €9m
Santos - €12m
Chukwuemeka - €18m
Cesare Casadei - €15m
DD Fofana - €12m
Malo Gusto -  €25m
Paez - €20m
Angelo Gabriel - €15m
Samuels-Smith - €5m

There's probably others, but €131 million is a lot of money on players under 21 that aren't guaranteed to play regularly or even at all.  Especially given the amount we've spent on players that are not much older that we are depending on.  There's the argument that some are just to sell on for profit, but when we start spending upwards of €20m, €30m with massive long contract I'm starting to get Bakayoko vibes.  How many will be constantly sent out on loan to Serie A with an option to buy only to leave on a free in 7 years time?

I guess we might dominate Premier League 2 for a couple of years.

1 hour ago, Sheva said:

Chelsea want to sign Elye Wahi from Montpellier and are set to make a first offer this week. The French club hopes for €30M.

(Source: @lequipe)

He's 19, is Phillip Schofield the head of recruitment?

 

 

Elye Wahl  - 20 years of age.  Young Montpelier forward who is having a very good season but is perhaps not ready to step up to the Premier League but there has been interest from the Championship and QPR. Wolves, Crystal Palace and Everton have sent scouts to watch him at the behest of Mendes who is hawking him around.

 

from Elye's wikiepedia page - In November 2021, it was revealed by investigative reporter Romain Molina that Wahi had been expelled from Caen's youth academy for allegedly pressuring secondary school students to masturbate in front of him in the bathrooms

9 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

 

 

Elye Wahl  - 20 years of age.  Young Montpelier forward who is having a very good season but is perhaps not ready to step up to the Premier League but there has been interest from the Championship and QPR. Wolves, Crystal Palace and Everton have sent scouts to watch him at the behest of Mendes who is hawking him around.

 

from Elye's wikiepedia page - In November 2021, it was revealed by investigative reporter Romain Molina that Wahi had been expelled from Caen's youth academy for allegedly pressuring secondary school students to masturbate in front of him in the bathrooms

Oh dear.  It's a hell no from me then.

31 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

€30m him and €25 for Franco, am I the only one who thinks these young cheap players we are buying aren't that cheap anymore?

Sloninia - €9m
Santos - €12m
Chukwuemeka - €18m
Cesare Casadei - €15m
DD Fofana - €12m
Malo Gusto -  €25m
Paez - €20m
Angelo Gabriel - €15m
Samuels-Smith - €5m

There's probably others, but €131 million is a lot of money on players under 21 that aren't guaranteed to play regularly or even at all.  Especially given the amount we've spent on players that are not much older that we are depending on.  There's the argument that some are just to sell on for profit, but when we start spending upwards of €20m, €30m with massive long contract I'm starting to get Bakayoko vibes.  How many will be constantly sent out on loan to Serie A with an option to buy only to leave on a free in 7 years time?

I guess we might dominate Premier League 2 for a couple of years.

Isn’t there also a limit on how many players you can loan out? I think the FIFA limit is 7 loans for this season, which drops to 6 going forward from next season. We also need to be careful with this multi club approach, Villa & Brighton were both recently sanctioned by UEFA and banned from sharing scouting databases, and told to reduce their holdings in their satellite clubs. 
You are right that we are spending loads of money on these players, and I don’t actually think it was ever profitable under Roman. It was just generating enough to break even. A flaw in this approach also is most of the big money transfers globally is made by premier league clubs, and a large chunk of these are players with PL experience. The biggest transfer in the French league this summer was the €28m deal taking Ekitike from Stade Reims to PSG after an initial season loan. If we are loaning/buying these £15m-£20m for Strasbourg, who is the target market?

33 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Isn’t there also a limit on how many players you can loan out? I think the FIFA limit is 7 loans for this season, which drops to 6 going forward from next season. We also need to be careful with this multi club approach, Villa & Brighton were both recently sanctioned by UEFA and banned from sharing scouting databases, and told to reduce their holdings in their satellite clubs. 
You are right that we are spending loads of money on these players, and I don’t actually think it was ever profitable under Roman. It was just generating enough to break even. A flaw in this approach also is most of the big money transfers globally is made by premier league clubs, and a large chunk of these are players with PL experience. The biggest transfer in the French league this summer was the €28m deal taking Ekitike from Stade Reims to PSG after an initial season loan. If we are loaning/buying these £15m-£20m for Strasbourg, who is the target market?

Exactly my thinking there's only a handful of clubs outside of the Premier League that have any money at the moment and those teams won't be buying our cast offs. 

20 hours ago, ducavis said:

Isn’t there also a limit on how many players you can loan out? I think the FIFA limit is 7 loans for this season, which drops to 6 going forward from next season. We also need to be careful with this multi club approach, Villa & Brighton were both recently sanctioned by UEFA and banned from sharing scouting databases, and told to reduce their holdings in their satellite clubs. 
You are right that we are spending loads of money on these players, and I don’t actually think it was ever profitable under Roman. It was just generating enough to break even. A flaw in this approach also is most of the big money transfers globally is made by premier league clubs, and a large chunk of these are players with PL experience. The biggest transfer in the French league this summer was the €28m deal taking Ekitike from Stade Reims to PSG after an initial season loan. If we are loaning/buying these £15m-£20m for Strasbourg, who is the target market?

I believe the 7 loans refers to players over the age of 21. The club can loan any amount of under 21's or older players who qualify as homegrown.

1 hour ago, ALTE said:

I believe the 7 loans refers to players over the age of 21. The club can loan any amount of under 21's or older players who qualify as homegrown.

Fair point. Just read the rules again.

7 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Fair point. Just read the rules again.

Yeah but most of those players will be unloanable in 2-3 years due to being over 21. Then we’ll be in the same boat with a load of players sitting in corridors stinking up the place cause they know they aren’t going to play.  I see us having another fire sale selling players off cheap rather than profiting.  
 

Plus there’s no doubt we’ll be buying countless more youngsters for inflated prices in the seasons following this too.

I know its not the most technically accurate source, but early morning Talk Spite mentioned that Julian Alvarez is apparently not happy being the number 2 striker at Man City and the Bayern are looking at him now in preference to Harry Kane. With Haaland there it won't change and I really like the look of Alvarez,  he scores when he plays and he would be an excellent foil for Argie team mate Enzo. I would love to see us make a cheeky bid and test City's resolve.

 

5 hours ago, coombsie said:

I know its not the most technically accurate source, but early morning Talk Spite mentioned that Julian Alvarez is apparently not happy being the number 2 striker at Man City and the Bayern are looking at him now in preference to Harry Kane. With Haaland there it won't change and I really like the look of Alvarez,  he scores when he plays and he would be an excellent foil for Argie team mate Enzo. I would love to see us make a cheeky bid and test City's resolve.

I reckon he will wait and see how this season pans out before making a decision. De Bruyne is out till Jan so he will get enough game time. There is also a likelihood Mahrez moves to Saudi, so no chance of him moving this summer. He is a hell of a talent.

2 hours ago, enigma said:

 

I would like to think the strong words to Inter bit are true. They have taken the pi$$ since the Lukaku deal and worse we have let them

Reality is we need to get moving on DM/CM, RW and maybe striker/GK.  Squad is too young and missing quality and depth in some key areas.  I assume there is a plan, but it would be foolish to start the season with only Enzo, Gallagher and Santos in CM - god forbid Enzo gets injured. 

We've just signed a CB, Abakar Sylla https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abakar_Sylla

By us, I mean Strasbourg. This is a strange time we live in. 

Looks like a solid player and I like how his controversy doesn't involve getting team mates to masturbate in front of him. 

 

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This is just hilarious. 

 

26 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

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This is just hilarious. 

 

I've given up trying to keep track of the kids we've signed  Surely many will start their Chelsea career in the development squad?

15 minutes ago, Valerie said:

I've given up trying to keep track of the kids we've signed  Surely many will start their Chelsea career in the development squad?

🤣🤣 It is crazy. Winger after winger. Probably none of them will ever play for our first time team. Or maybe the end goal is to play 

5-0-5

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

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This is just hilarious. 

 

Funniest thing is his prolific output ... I get that he is young, and set records for youngest player blah blah blah, but I'd love to know what our scouts and recruitment team are seeing in a winger with 5 goals in 129 appearances for Santos. especially when they've already signed Hutchinson, Mudryk, Madueke, Sterling, Jackson, Nkunku, Moreira, Matos .... plus we still have CHO, Anjorin, Vale, Ziyech ... and I bet even Leo Castledine will turn out to be a better attacking midfielder than at least half of them LOL. 

Wingers are the new left backs I guess ... 

38 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Funniest thing is his prolific output ... I get that he is young, and set records for youngest player blah blah blah, but I'd love to know what our scouts and recruitment team are seeing in a winger with 5 goals in 129 appearances for Santos. especially when they've already signed Hutchinson, Mudryk, Madueke, Sterling, Jackson, Nkunku, Moreira, Matos .... plus we still have CHO, Anjorin, Vale, Ziyech ... and I bet even Leo Castledine will turn out to be a better attacking midfielder than at least half of them LOL. 

Wingers are the new left backs I guess ... 

What concerns me is that this team seem to be trying to prove the rationale of part of the reason they were brought in, seeking out young emerging talent, by paying decent sized fees for young players that little if anyone is competing for.

When it comes to the negotiations with established senior players, most with representation that has been around the block for a while, either deals collapse or they trundle on forever. I'm sure taht isn't the case but it certainly seems that way currently.

Ironically, one young player purchased that i do think may well be a massive star in the future, Carney, may well get swamped with countless others that won't make it and be forgotten here, leading to pointless loans and the inevitable departure to make a name for himself elsewhere. Hope I'm wrong.

13 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

What concerns me is that this team seem to be trying to prove the rationale of part of the reason they were brought in, seeking out young emerging talent, by paying decent sized fees for young players that little if anyone is competing for.

When it comes to the negotiations with established senior players, most with representation that has been around the block for a while, either deals collapse or they trundle on forever. I'm sure taht isn't the case but it certainly seems that way currently.

Ironically, one young player purchased that i do think may well be a massive star in the future, Carney, may well get swamped with countless others that won't make it and be forgotten here, leading to pointless loans and the inevitable departure to make a name for himself elsewhere. Hope I'm wrong.

Jury is well and truly out on Winstanley and Stewart - simply too early to tell whether anything they have done thus far will bear fruit at this point. We do still seem to be following the pattern of buying high and selling low (or free) that was well-established under Roman.

I agree on Carney. I'm hoping that Chukwuemeka and also Casadei have a really good USA Tour and impress Pochettino enough to keep them around and play them.

From what little I've seen of them, they look far better prospects than, say, Andrey Santos to me (who I also hope does well btw)

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Funniest thing is his prolific output ... I get that he is young, and set records for youngest player blah blah blah, but I'd love to know what our scouts and recruitment team are seeing in a winger with 5 goals in 129 appearances for Santos. especially when they've already signed Hutchinson, Mudryk, Madueke, Sterling, Jackson, Nkunku, Moreira, Matos .... plus we still have CHO, Anjorin, Vale, Ziyech ... and I bet even Leo Castledine will turn out to be a better attacking midfielder than at least half of them LOL. 

Wingers are the new left backs I guess ... 

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If you list them, it sounds even more ridiculous. But you got to catch them all