I'm pretty sure Abramovich's visa issues are the reason behind all this. He's a man of principles and one pretty obvious one is not to sack someone without being face to face, and not to hire someone without meeting them in person and being able to greet them personally when they are welcomed.

 

I expect he'll be in London in the next few days to sort things out at Chelsea (among other things). Why else did he get Israeli citizenship? Tel Aviv is nice but hardly a financial centre to rival London.

Edited May 29, 20188 yr by Fatty_Speeding

Funny how tolerant is Roman to his direct subordinates, given his history with the "coaches". I'd kill to read a book from anybody about how this club really works. 

3 hours ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

I'm pretty sure Abramovich's visa issues are the reason behind all this. He's a man of principles and one pretty obvious one is not to sack someone without being face to face, and not to hire someone without meeting them in person and being able to greet them personally when they are welcomed.

 

I expect he'll be in London in the next few days to sort things out at Chelsea (among other things). Why else did he get Israeli citizenship? Tel Aviv is nice but hardly a financial centre to rival London.

Couldn't agree more. 

8 hours ago, Gol15 said:

If Liverpool can play fast with 1 Salah and Mane we should be able to play fast with Hazard + a new striker + new midfielder (hopefully Milinkovic-Savic), after all last season we won 30 games and we didn't play slow football.

I don't think we should try to play slow, we will never outdo Man City with Pep that has a superior squad depth and just better players for that kind of game, that would be playing his game and we would lose every time, Klopp didn't care to play his game and Liverpool even with such a poor defense and poor goalkeeper and at best average midfield players schooled Pep's Man City.

I never meant we should play slow; the speed of possession-based football is down to the pace of the playing-eleven. There is only so much you can do with players like Alonso, Fabregas, Drinkwater and ageing Pedro and Willian on the field. 

How fast you can execute your game play is partly down to the tactics of the manager, but more reliant on how fast your players actually are. Remember, we are taking about the overall speed of game play here, not its perfect execution or the result at the end 90 minutes. 

What I want to stress  is that results based on defensive counterattacking play is much more dependent on the overall pace of the team, than when teams are set up for possession-based football. When possession-based teams have a slow team, the football is boring to watch; when defensive-counterattacking football is played by a slow team, the football is painful to watch.  There are again wide differences in how the manager executes possession-based football, most importantly on the directness of play (slow buildup with tons of lateral passing vs a more direct approach).  In an ideal world, the peak Messi-Barcelona team with fast game-play, short incisive passes,  70% possession and a bucket load of trophies is what most people want, but there's always a compromise if you don't have the players to execute it. 

And that we are now probably the 'slowest' top six team in the league, which will NOT improve anytime soon by the looks of it, we need a manager who can change the philosophy of game-play. If we are not good enough to qualify for Champions League anyway, I'd much rather see a team with a more progressive game-play, higher defensive line,  liberal attacking game plan and win 4-3 with  10 attempts at goal instead of 1-0 in the 90th minute with 2 attempts at goal.    

5 hours ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

I'm pretty sure Abramovich's visa issues are the reason behind all this. He's a man of principles and one pretty obvious one is not to sack someone without being face to face, and not to hire someone without meeting them in person and being able to greet them personally when they are welcomed.

 

I expect he'll be in London in the next few days to sort things out at Chelsea (among other things). Why else did he get Israeli citizenship? Tel Aviv is nice but hardly a financial centre to rival London.

He's also a man of vast wealth that could surely hold a business meeting any where in Europe. 

I don't think it makes any difference whether anyway. 

It sure wasn't roman sacking ancelotti in the tunnel at goodison.

On 25/05/2018 at 21:39, Barrettinator said:

You're right. But that was a different era, hence the separation. If we're going that far back, then we might as well go as far back as 2000 and if we do, that makes Serie A perhaps the strongest league in the world. But we all know that was a different era. When we won in 2012, it was pretty much the last push of not just that era of Chelsea players, but that era of PL dominance that had lasted since 2003 or so.

I'm sorry, but "that was a different era" is a bit of a lazy catch-all dismissal of another's argument.  Football is forever changing.  Last May "was a different era"to this May because of the money spent by the Manc clubs and the points gap between first and fifth in the league.  Last November "was a different era" to now.  We were playing OK then.  

 

I am surprised we haven’t acted yet.
Taking everything into consideration it’s a very short summer before the new season kicks off again.Our main competitors are making terrific moves in the market to strengthen themselves and we are not yet sure who’ll be our manager next season even. Neither have we replaced our DOF that left the club half a year ago.

Nothing new to report as of now. Waiting......

This club does my head in. 

Sureky it is beneficial to get the manager situation and DoF sorted ASAP.

Clearly we aren’t fully focused on transfers yet because we’re too busy faffing about with the managers! I don’t think we have even started on a director yet.

Before anyone says it’s only been a couple of weeks since the season has finished, Liverpool played last Saturday and they have already signed a player. We’ve had over a week now.

It’s going to be a long summer, thank goodness for the World Cup.

No managerial news, no transfers, just another day of nothing, wonder whether everyone running the club has gone on holiday. We will be playing catch up even before the season kicks off

50 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

No managerial news, no transfers, just another day of nothing, wonder whether everyone running the club has gone on holiday. We will be playing catch up even before the season kicks off

With the exception of Liverpool, who else is doing much at the moment? 

Arsenal have appointed their new manager but didn't have the complication of having to sack Wenger and Emery had been released by PSG in favour of Tuchel. 

We're currently (presumably) negotiating a compensation package for Conte and his legion of backroom staff whilst also dealing with compensation for Sarri (assuming he is who we want to hire). Bear in mind that a contract for a season typically ends on or around June 1st, so sacking Conte before then may possibly involve more money because technically he has more than 1 season/year remaining on his deal. 

That's two pretty complicated situations to resolve before we can get started on player recruitment whilst having no director of football in place, something else that I assume we are in the process of resolving... All the while our club's owner has effectively been booted out of the country something he has had to resolve as well. 

I mean, if you take a step back and look at the amount of things we are currently having to deal with before we can start looking ahead to the new season is it really any wonder that it's going to take a bit of time? 

Hopefully Sarri will be doing his homework when we wait for official confirmation. 

Talks about Blanc as our prefered manager seems to gathering pace on twitter now. Feck me..

Blanc, is not a good option. 

We really need to sort it out though, all our rivals are making transfer or are close to making transfers whilst we are sitting around faffing about over a manager. Are we even getting a DoF or is Marina continuing in that role?

What rivals and what transfers?  I just looked at Sky's transfers pages and they only have the dippers' new bloke as a confirmed transfer.  Nothing else at all.

There might well be paper talk about possible who and what and where and why,  but to say "all our rivals are making transfer or are close to making transfers" is stretching facts a bit.

6 hours ago, Lord said:

I never meant we should play slow; the speed of possession-based football is down to the pace of the playing-eleven. There is only so much you can do with players like Alonso, Fabregas, Drinkwater and ageing Pedro and Willian on the field. 

How fast you can execute your game play is partly down to the tactics of the manager, but more reliant on how fast your players actually are. Remember, we are taking about the overall speed of game play here, not its perfect execution or the result at the end 90 minutes. 

What I want to stress  is that results based on defensive counterattacking play is much more dependent on the overall pace of the team, than when teams are set up for possession-based football. When possession-based teams have a slow team, the football is boring to watch; when defensive-counterattacking football is played by a slow team, the football is painful to watch.  There are again wide differences in how the manager executes possession-based football, most importantly on the directness of play (slow buildup with tons of lateral passing vs a more direct approach).  In an ideal world, the peak Messi-Barcelona team with fast game-play, short incisive passes,  70% possession and a bucket load of trophies is what most people want, but there's always a compromise if you don't have the players to execute it. 

And that we are now probably the 'slowest' top six team in the league, which will NOT improve anytime soon by the looks of it, we need a manager who can change the philosophy of game-play. If we are not good enough to qualify for Champions League anyway, I'd much rather see a team with a more progressive game-play, higher defensive line,  liberal attacking game plan and win 4-3 with  10 attempts at goal instead of 1-0 in the 90th minute with 2 attempts at goal.    

I think that Sarri is your man for that.

4 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

What rivals and what transfers?  I just looked at Sky's transfers pages and they only have the dippers' new bloke as a confirmed transfer.  Nothing else at all.

There might well be paper talk about possible who and what and where and why,  but to say "all our rivals are making transfer or are close to making transfers" is stretching facts a bit.

Come on yb, complaining and moaning is the order of the day, unless you're the manager of course and then that is negative and grounds for being sacked.

TF we only have a couple of weeks until we can genuinely moan about the World  Cup, and then only a few more weeks before we can start moaning about the piss-poor pre-season  purchasing policy.

Chelsea have still not reached an agreement with Napoli over Maurizio Sarri as the deadline to meet his release clause fast approaches. Club hopeful of agreement. Clause expires Thursday 

I was told 2 weeks ago that Chelsea have talked to Laurent Blanc. seems to be gathering more pace now. 

For what it’s worth though I am still pretty sure Chelsea will pay the release clause for Sarri.

(Simon Johnson - Standard)

Just had a brief scroll down of the thread.

A lot of panicking/complaining already which seems completely over the top. 

I'll be reserving judgement on all matters (managers/directors of football//transfers etc) until the eve of the first game of the season which is when the transfer window also shuts this summer.

I think if the board decided to part ways with Conte they could have sacked him at least a week ago!

That's the only thing that bothers me, the board is not showing any intentions at the time when we could lose Hazard and Courtois, maybe to sign a new manager takes time, same for signing new players but if the club already decided about sacking Conte go on with it already sack him, pay him and his staff £10m and let everyone know that we are indeed looking for a new boss!

11 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

I think if the board decided to part ways with Conte they could have sacked him at least a week ago!

That's the only thing that bothers me, the board is not showing any intentions at the time when we could lose Hazard and Courtois, maybe to sign a new manager takes time, same for signing new players but if the club already decided about sacking Conte go on with it already sack him, pay him and his staff £10m and let everyone know that we are indeed looking for a new boss!

Now that the Roman's visa issue has been solved things may move a bit faster.  I am not saying they will sack Conte, but things should move one way or another.

16 minutes ago, Nickcook26 said:

Just had a brief scroll down of the thread.

A lot of panicking/complaining already which seems completely over the top. 

I'll be reserving judgement on all matters (managers/directors of football//transfers etc) until the eve of the first game of the season which is when the transfer window also shuts this summer.

I don't think it's over the top at all if the last three summer windows have taught us anything.
The club have resorted to complete panic buys on deadline day in every one of them.

«Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.»

 

 

That is fair we have waited until deadline day the last couple of seasons. But the season finished only a week ago. If we are to change managers,  I for one am happy we waited a while rather than sacking Antonio in the corridor at Wembley. 

What is more concerning in my view is that we still haven't worked out a solution to the DoF situation. Emenalo has been gone for nearly six months.

 

10 minutes ago, Sindre said:

I don't think it's over the top at all if the last three summer windows have taught us anything.
The club have resorted to complete panic buys on deadline day in every one of them.

«Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.»

 

 

It is over the top when the window has been open only just over a week, and is open until August 9th, AND we don't have a clear decision on who will be manager.

Be chill children. Those who run around crying "the sky is falling in" are condemned to be roasted with lovely roast potatoes and delicious gravy.  Or mocked by more sensible posters, at the very least.