14 hours ago, coco said:

 

Some people have to be over dramatic.

 

When youve seen ignorant pricks make BS mistakes that cost the lives of your close buddies including almost your own, its pretty damn easy to call out the BS when you see it.  

 

Im the dramatic one or the usual managerial headhunters in here who spew out the same “sack sack sack” sh*t everytime theres an issue? 

The answer is pretty obvious depending on what your agenda is. 

Hi everyone, Im a new member.                      I back Sarri to succeed. A midfielder and a winger are a must in the summer. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Semper Fi said:

When youve seen ignorant pricks make BS mistakes that cost the lives of your close buddies including almost your own, its pretty damn easy to call out the BS when you see it.  

 

Im the dramatic one or the usual managerial headhunters in here who spew out the same “sack sack sack” sh*t everytime theres an issue? 

The answer is pretty obvious depending on what your agenda is. 

Just asking, are we talking about a game of football.?

 

 

23 hours ago, enigma said:

 

This is the crux of it for me ... we are not seeing "Sarriball" at all, as some of the the players are not following the instructions and tactics. I think this might be what Sarri means by the "motivation" thing.  Players in the attacking phase are too static so there are no options for the quick pass from Jorginho. The wingers are probably the main problem when you are trying to play fast incisive one touch football - Hazard and Willian take too many touches, and come inside most of the time.  In support of the three main attackers, we also only really see Kante try and join the attack from midfield. The third midfielder needs to do more (the Kovacic/Barkley/RLC role).

There really is very little for the striker to work with, so the striker being clinical has become more important than perhaps it should be ... Harry Kane only has about a 1 in 6 conversion rate, but Tottenham create multiple chances for him to score each game. Similarly Salah at Liverpool, misses alot but scores most games because he has so many chances. We need to find a way to provide better service. I think the fullbacks also play an important part of this, and I am not convinced any of them are really doing what Sarri requires of them.

7 hours ago, Oli said:

Its clear the tactics arent working. And stubborn sarri isnt willing to adapt even in the slightest. We can blame the motivation of the players all we want, but when he didnt play a striker for about i games even though we are struggling to score, then theres only one person to.blame in my eyes.

I am not sure that the tactics are necessarily the problem. Maybe its the players ability to put the tactics into practice on the pitch.....which staggers me by the way and always has done. It's not as if Sarri has come here and is trying to teach them Latin, its just operating in a slightly different part of the pitch, for the love of God. This really isn't rocket science. I would love to be in the position where my boss gave me some slightly different work to do and because it falls outside of my job description I can then down tools safe in the knowledge that my company will end up sacking my boss. Happy days.

My only gripe really is not with the tactics at all. Maybe the problem is the ability of the players. I am not talking about their individual skill sets. The fact that these blokes do this every day of their lives means that they have a phenomenal level of skill. I'm talking about ability as players to play this system. Therefore, my issue, with the catalogue of squad players and loanees all over Europe that we have, why doesn't Sarri conduct a full audit of his extended playing staff and develop a group of 16-18 players from what we have that fit the system he wants to play. We moan about Jorginho being irreplaceable and yet is a major defensive vulnerability. Isn't that exactly what Sarri did at Napoli though. I read that Jorginho was a bit part bench warmer that Sarri found could be moulded to fit his system. If we have something approaching 70 players registered with the club, then surely he can find a group that fits the system regardless of their individual attributes. If it means that Tammy Abraham is the striker that fits best with Rudi and Cahill (god forbid) at the back and Drinkwater holding and CHO on the right, then go for it and make a team that fits the system and if the Pedrillians, Hazards Alonsos feel that their egos are bruised and their values are diminished they can either knuckle down and learn to move 15 yards further around the pitch than the area that they are currently used to standing in or they can get off their self obsessed, image protected, pampered at$e$ and fck off.

Apologies!!

3 hours ago, Semper Fi said:

When youve seen ignorant pricks make BS mistakes that cost the lives of your close buddies including almost your own, its pretty damn easy to call out the BS when you see it.  

 

Im the dramatic one or the usual managerial headhunters in here who spew out the same “sack sack sack” sh*t everytime theres an issue? 

The answer is pretty obvious depending on what your agenda is. 

I don't think your Vietnam flashbacks help you to work out who's a bellend on a football forum. 

Back pages of the national papers are mostly about Sarri this morning. 

Papers looks like they're turning the screw on him now. 

Needs a run of decent results and performances or it's not going away any time soon... Got a massive question mark hanging over him right now. 

19 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I am not sure that the tactics are necessarily the problem. Maybe its the players ability to put the tactics into practice on the pitch.....which staggers me by the way and always has done. It's not as if Sarri has come here and is trying to teach them Latin, its just operating in a slightly different part of the pitch, for the love of God. This really isn't rocket science. I would love to be in the position where my boss gave me some slightly different work to do and because it falls outside of my job description I can then down tools safe in the knowledge that my company will end up sacking my boss. Happy days.

My only gripe really is not with the tactics at all. Maybe the problem is the ability of the players. I am not talking about their individual skill sets. The fact that these blokes do this every day of their lives means that they have a phenomenal level of skill. I'm talking about ability as players to play this system. Therefore, my issue, with the catalogue of squad players and loanees all over Europe that we have, why doesn't Sarri conduct a full audit of his extended playing staff and develop a group of 16-18 players from what we have that fit the system he wants to play. We moan about Jorginho being irreplaceable and yet is a major defensive vulnerability. Isn't that exactly what Sarri did at Napoli though. I read that Jorginho was a bit part bench warmer that Sarri found could be moulded to fit his system. If we have something approaching 70 players registered with the club, then surely he can find a group that fits the system regardless of their individual attributes. If it means that Tammy Abraham is the striker that fits best with Rudi and Cahill (god forbid) at the back and Drinkwater holding and CHO on the right, then go for it and make a team that fits the system and if the Pedrillians, Hazards Alonsos feel that their egos are bruised and their values are diminished they can either knuckle down and learn to move 15 yards further around the pitch than the area that they are currently used to standing in or they can get off their self obsessed, image protected, pampered at$e$ and fck off.

Apologies!!

I would like to think Abraham gets a good trial over the summer, with the recent poor acquisitions I would hope they give him a fair go to see if he could be our No.9.

With the style of football being one or two touch it reminds me of Arsenal under Wenger of when we had those intense battles under Mourinho's tenure.

I think it can work yet to be effective everyone has to be on the same wavelength and incredibly fit, not sure we have the squad for that. Neither Pep or Klopp have done that in one season and both have undertaken major squad rebuilds.

19 hours ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

I can't tell if that's sarcasm 

Not at all. A system and philosophy like this takes time. A few poor results and we are questioning the manager?! We need some stability and a long term goal. With a constant change of managers/styles our team will never have an established identity. Some fans are so short sighted and think its so black and white.

Makes you wonder what the turning point was at Napoili where the football just worked? Our players currently go forward with no intensity and just pass the ball endlessly around the eighteen yard box with little responsibility.

I can see Hazard leaving in the summer and that might be the turning point for a mass clearout that we probably need, I hope he's backed in the second season. Go for broke.

Edited February 1, 20197 yr by Luca Vialli

1 minute ago, Luca Vialli said:

Makes you wonder what the turning point was at Napoili where the football just worked? The players currently go forward with no intensity and just pass the ball endlessly around the eighteen yard box with little responsibility.

I can see Hazard leaving in the summer and that might be the turning point for a mass clearout that we probably need, I hope he's backed in the second season. Go for broke.

Like I said before, he had the time and patience at Napoli. He has come in at a difficult season with rivals strengthening and being in Europa. Our board hasn't helped the situation by sacking and hiring managers, now having a squad of players which don't all fit the system of the new coach.

Man City did it the right way. Unfortunately our board hasn't. They either back him and show patience through bad periods (which are inevitable) or sack him, then rinse and repeat, which imo isn't going to work unless a couple of our rivals lose their coach and a couple of their key players in the next season. 

12 hours ago, JM7 said:

Matt Law reporting on what Sarri talked with the players about.

Main points were:

-Sarri didn't get angry but picked apart every bad aspect.

-Singled out Eden for playing how he wanted, instead of listening.

-Asked the squad what he could be doing better.

-Travelled back alone to work 

-Pep told him to use 14 players this season.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/31/maurizio-sarri-said-chelsea-dressing-room-inquest-eden-hazard/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

So Matt Law knows the details of a closed door meeting held in a football stadium dressing room?  Yep, that's all truly credible as well.

Depending on which end of the "Sarri management style and future job prospects" argument you stand any one of you could have written that load of made-up bollocks, or, equally, could have written the same amount of bollocks about how Sarri gave them all a good verbal kicking.

 

When will  we all start applying some sort of sensible cognitive reasoning to the sh*te that the press and sports media keep  feeding us?

5 minutes ago, Luca Vialli said:

Makes you wonder what the turning point was at Napoili where the football just worked? Our players currently go forward with no intensity and just pass the ball endlessly around the eighteen yard box with little responsibility.

I can see Hazard leaving in the summer and that might be the turning point for a mass clearout that we probably need, I hope he's backed in the second season. Go for broke.

I think this is the main difference. Napoli players were willing to dig deep and work hard. Press from the front, make endless runs behind and break with pace.

Our players are too lackadaisical and hold onto the ball to long. The amount of times you see Hazard and Willian slow the game down and allow defenders to get back into a deep block. I'd like to see us start a game with CHO and Pedro as the wingers as they're both quick and direct. 

Assume Sarri was correct, after 6 months the team didn't even know the basics of the Sarri ball, what does that tell us? Maybe the system just isn't right for this team, either he gets to buy a new team or should have seen it coming and be more adaptable. Letting him go within a season would be ridiculous, but unless he gets players on his side and get his ideas across, there aren't any other options. Losing 4 goals against a mid table team, and we still have to play 3 of the top teams at their home turf, we are going to be the receiving end of some cricket scores. The whole traveling back by himself thing is just bizare, it's another sign of me against them.

I've always thought in recent seasons the EPL had two parts, Aug - Jan and then Jan - May. 

It is broken of course by the transfer window yet I think there is another factor and that is by the mid point of the season most teams have sussed you out, you need to change something to still get results.

What is Sarri likely to change?

8 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

So Matt Law knows the details of a closed door meeting held in a football stadium dressing room?  Yep, that's all truly credible as well.

or maybe our Rat problem is still around and it wasn't Fabregas after all ... a leak of information to Matt Law ?

32 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

I don't think your Vietnam flashbacks help you to work out who's a bellend on a football forum. 

13 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Our players are too lackadaisical and hold onto the ball to long.

Then why does he keep picking them? We have alternatives.
He’s the one who’s supposed to address these kinds of problems and do something about it and he’s quite simply failed at it.

Some of you really need to get a bloody grip

7 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Then why does he keep picking them? We have alternatives.
He’s the one who’s supposed to address these kinds of problems and do something about it and he’s quite simply failed at it.

 

Who else can he pick? The only one i have issue with him not playing is CHO. Seems like the perfect fit for Sarri's football. Outside of him, who else on our bench is going to improve our intensity? 

The slowest players on the ball are Azpi, Rudiger, Willian, Alonso/Emerson, Hazard. Who else can we realistically bring in for them? Hazard gets away with it because he's class but the others slow us down a hell of a lot.

Its going to take a couple of windows to give Sarri what he needs.

12 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

or maybe our Rat problem is still around and it wasn't Fabregas after all ... a leak of information to Matt Law ?

More likely somebody was lurking outside with an ear pressed to the door. Or it’s just completely speculative bullsh*t.