11 minutes ago, Valerie said:

Yeah okay, that too. I thought I'd throw in some nuance 

Nuance? Around here? Pffffffft.

1 hour ago, dermott said:

Nuance? Around here? Pffffffft.

I know. I should know better after all these years 

Ziyech almost always created something when he played, whether it was an assist or a key pass leading to an assist, he had that quality which others lacked. Also consider he’s had no real striker/goal scorer to finish his crosses. The whole teams been crap in this respect. 

He was brought in by Lampard to play in a 433 system as he is an out and out winger and needs space to operate. In his 3 years here he played mainly as an inside forward  in a 343 where he was cramped for space and had Reece james out wide. He was played out of position, so dont know how everyone was expecting him to excel and be like the Dutch player of the year which he was in a position hes never done and isnt suited to.

Mount downed tools a long time ago, a year and a half ago, which is a disgrace. His attitude and body language on the pitch has been the worst ive seen after Lukaku during this time. To top it off he’s joining Man Utd which is a slap on the face of every Chelsea fan. But for some Chelsea fans he can do no wrong.

Its better for Ziyech to leave, even if he scored 30 goals and had 30 assists im a season he’d still be abused no end by Chelsea fans and be told to fck off. 

4 hours ago, Vialli96 said:

Ziyech almost always created something when he played, whether it was an assist or a key pass leading to an assist, he had that quality which others lacked. Also consider he’s had no real striker/goal scorer to finish his crosses. The whole teams been crap in this respect. 

He was brought in by Lampard to play in a 433 system as he is an out and out winger and needs space to operate. In his 3 years here he played mainly as an inside forward  in a 343 where he was cramped for space and had Reece james out wide. He was played out of position, so dont know how everyone was expecting him to excel and be like the Dutch player of the year which he was in a position hes never done and isnt suited to.

Mount downed tools a long time ago, a year and a half ago, which is a disgrace. His attitude and body language on the pitch has been the worst ive seen after Lukaku during this time. To top it off he’s joining Man Utd which is a slap on the face of every Chelsea fan. But for some Chelsea fans he can do no wrong.

Its better for Ziyech to leave, even if he scored 30 goals and had 30 assists im a season he’d still be abused no end by Chelsea fans and be told to fck off. 

He played as a number 10 as often as he did as a RW the season before we bought him. So playing as an inverted winger, which is a position inbetween RW and OM, should suit a player who is capable of playing both of those positions...

6 hours ago, Vialli96 said:

Ziyech almost always created something when he played, whether it was an assist or a key pass leading to an assist, he had that quality which others lacked. Also consider he’s had no real striker/goal scorer to finish his crosses. The whole teams been crap in this respect. 

He was brought in by Lampard to play in a 433 system as he is an out and out winger and needs space to operate. In his 3 years here he played mainly as an inside forward  in a 343 where he was cramped for space and had Reece james out wide. He was played out of position, so dont know how everyone was expecting him to excel and be like the Dutch player of the year which he was in a position hes never done and isnt suited to.

Mount downed tools a long time ago, a year and a half ago, which is a disgrace. His attitude and body language on the pitch has been the worst ive seen after Lukaku during this time. To top it off he’s joining Man Utd which is a slap on the face of every Chelsea fan. But for some Chelsea fans he can do no wrong.

Its better for Ziyech to leave, even if he scored 30 goals and had 30 assists im a season he’d still be abused no end by Chelsea fans and be told to fck off. 

Not sure why you've brought Mount into the discussion on this thread but a half arsed Mount put in 10x more effort than a fully firing Ziyech. 

 

6 hours ago, Vialli96 said:

Ziyech almost always created something when he played, whether it was an assist or a key pass leading to an assist, he had that quality which others lacked. Also consider he’s had no real striker/goal scorer to finish his crosses. The whole teams been crap in this respect. 

He was brought in by Lampard to play in a 433 system as he is an out and out winger and needs space to operate. In his 3 years here he played mainly as an inside forward  in a 343 where he was cramped for space and had Reece james out wide. He was played out of position, so dont know how everyone was expecting him to excel and be like the Dutch player of the year which he was in a position hes never done and isnt suited to.

Mount downed tools a long time ago, a year and a half ago, which is a disgrace. His attitude and body language on the pitch has been the worst ive seen after Lukaku during this time. To top it off he’s joining Man Utd which is a slap on the face of every Chelsea fan. But for some Chelsea fans he can do no wrong.

Its better for Ziyech to leave, even if he scored 30 goals and had 30 assists im a season he’d still be abused no end by Chelsea fans and be told to fck off. 

Firstly why mention Mount at all in this post, its amazing how many fans seem happy to use Mount as a scapegoat for anything else. This conversation has literally nothing to do with him.

Secondly he was hardly ever played out of position, he was pretty much always out wide left, he didnt really play as an inside forward at all.

Thirdly, no, no he didnt almost always create something when he played, though it could be argued that he only chose to play a few minutes each game he was picked so I suppose you could be right.

Edited June 19, 20233 yr by dkw

He has the highest chance creation in the team per 90. 

It's part of his game though, meaning he can look equally as frustrating (if not moreso) because he was always looking to make something happen despite when it wasn't necessary. 

He's won us a lot of points the 21/22 season during that hectic Dec-March period and had an influence in the European Cup win. Not sure I understand the amount of personal criticism towards him. 

 

5 hours ago, dkw said:

Firstly why mention Mount at all in this post, its amazing how many fans seem happy to use Mount as a scapegoat for anything else. This conversation has literally nothing to do with him.

Secondly he was hardly ever played out of position, he was pretty much always out wide left, he didnt really play as an inside forward at all.

Thirdly, no, no he didnt almost always create something when he played, though it could be argued that he only chose to play a few minutes each game he was picked so I suppose you could be right.

And Mount never pulled out of tackles .😂😂😂

6 hours ago, dkw said:

Firstly why mention Mount at all in this post, its amazing how many fans seem happy to use Mount as a scapegoat for anything else. This conversation has literally nothing to do with him.

Secondly he was hardly ever played out of position, he was pretty much always out wide left, he didnt really play as an inside forward at all.

Thirdly, no, no he didnt almost always create something when he played, though it could be argued that he only chose to play a few minutes each game he was picked so I suppose you could be right.

Sorry, meant wide right.

4 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

And Mount never pulled out of tackles .😂😂😂

No.

Just now, dkw said:

No.

Hey DKW,

Do you know of any current player who pulled out of tackles ?

28 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Hey DKW,

Do you know of any current player who pulled out of tackles ?

Ziyech.

1 minute ago, dkw said:

Ziyech.

Cheers mate, , little bit annoying when that happens isn't it .

 

Sold

 

Makes sense he and Mendy go as FFP profits and Koulibaly and Auba are held back as losses for July 1.

14 hours ago, NestorGarde said:

 

Sold

 

Wonder if we insisted on a "buy back" clause?

Not confirmed by super reliable sources yet but apparently he failed his medical. Jesus.

2 minutes ago, NestorGarde said:

Not confirmed by super reliable sources yet but apparently he failed his medical. Jesus.

Interesting. Would explain the delay as his deal was the first of the Saudi deals agrees by the club's I think.

21 minutes ago, NestorGarde said:

Not confirmed by super reliable sources yet but apparently he failed his medical. Jesus.

He’s going to be in and around the pre-season training like a bad stench then.

Bad apple spoils the bunch. They cannot let it get to that. 

I think he'd really benefit from a long-term loan to RC Strasbourg

Given PSGs medical relieved this issue, is surprising the deal got so far before it came up here.

Serval sources saying deal is off due to medical issues, now what? Does insurance kickin?

How the fek has this lazy twat failed a medical , he doesn't do anything to get injured ffs

There must be more to it, I saw another report of a disagreement on contract terms which seems more likely then them 1) Suddenly finding out about his injury which was already common knowledge due to his PSG transfer 2) Refusing to go ahead regardless when PSG was willing to 3) Caring about the injury concern at all when he will still be one of their top players when fit

What's he injured, his left arsecheek?