4 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Anyone else find it odd that Conte took the Spurs job? 

He's a really successful manager did well at Juve, Chelsea, Inter and even the Italian national side. 

So what's in it for him to take on the Spurs job? A side that's on the decline and no trophy in over a decade and is behind at least 4 other teams in terms of spending power and player quality. 

What does success actually look like for a manager of his ability if he stayed for the 18 months of his contract? 

Money. 

Levy has by all accounts met his crazy demands. At the end of the day they are all about the bank accounts and looks like he wasn't confident of waiting for the United gig. 

This is Levys last roll of the dice before he's forced out the door by the fans. He will have spurs majorly in the red to save face and be in the good books for the short term. Long term Spurs are in big trouble if as we all expect this goes tits up. 

Edited November 2, 20214 yr by Chelsbear

3 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Agreed.

It is also worth remembering Inter we're the best of the rest to take advantage when Pirlo tanked Juve. They spent a fair bit bringing in Lukaku and Hakimi and others for Conte, and as soon as they said they had to reign it in and sell Hakimi Conte quit.

Conte won't be content with one spending spree, he will want to and need to keep spending to be happy and keep them on the up.

For a while though we will see them improve.

Yeah a short term improvement is almost a given. He may have 1 decent season but as soon as the money runs dry and he isn't getting superstars that's when it will fall apart. Spuds are still paying off the stadium and have guys on mental contracts too. 

He simply must get top 4 this season as if not he can forget about big money signings in the summer. No top player is coming to spuds without CL football over the bigger teams. 

Could be also the Uefa Conference League, League cup and FA cup are targeted to. Win Spurs their first trophy in a long time and he can beat his chest about it.

12 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

So what's in it for him to take on the Spurs job?

Lack of options.

Despite his coaching quality his reputation for boardroom wars proceeds him.

13 minutes ago, Argo said:

Lack of options.

Despite his coaching quality his reputation for boardroom wars proceeds him.

Aye. He fought with the Juve board before leaving there, he is the only manager spiteful dealt with by the club when dismissed despite being one of the best we have had. And at Inter they gave him a lot bit when the affects of Covid hit them he walked.

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

Aye. He fought with the Juve board before leaving there, he is the only manager spiteful dealt with by the club when dismissed despite being one of the best we have had. And at Inter they gave him a lot bit when the affects of Covid hit them he walked.

A lot of fans critisised the board for holding his compo but my train of though was we paid outright failures like Scolari and AVB their's no question asked so why would they have held out on a title winning manager for sh*ts and giggles?

He must have been hell to work with those last few months, it's why I don't hold what Willian done against him.

38 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Anyone else find it odd that Conte took the Spurs job? 

He's a really successful manager did well at Juve, Chelsea, Inter and even the Italian national side. 

So what's in it for him to take on the Spurs job? A side that's on the decline and no trophy in over a decade and is behind at least 4 other teams in terms of spending power and player quality. 

What does success actually look like for a manager of his ability if he stayed for the 18 months of his contract? 

I think he want to go back to pl and imo this spurs squas suit his football 

Couldn't think of anywhere else to post this. Have to say I'm not surprised.

http://news.sky.com/story/former-fifa-officials-sepp-blatter-and-michel-platini-charged-with-fraud-12457982

1 hour ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Anyone else find it odd that Conte took the Spurs job? 

He's a really successful manager did well at Juve, Chelsea, Inter and even the Italian national side. 

So what's in it for him to take on the Spurs job? A side that's on the decline and no trophy in over a decade and is behind at least 4 other teams in terms of spending power and player quality. 

What does success actually look like for a manager of his ability if he stayed for the 18 months of his contract? 

He's getting really well paid, plus he gets the opportunity to get one up on Mourinho by actually being successful in the Spurs job, which is winning something, anything, or getting Top 4. Low bar etc etc.

Oh, and he's getting really well paid :-) 

1 hour ago, Argo said:

Lack of options.

Despite his coaching quality his reputation for boardroom wars proceeds him.

I think the boardroom thing is an overblown narrative. 

He definitely fell out with the higher ups at Chelsea but there was a lot going on in the background at the club (Diego Costa going AWOL, the B list quality of signings at the club, the protracted improved terms deal for Conte following the title win) that is no way all on him. 

He left Juventu, with a year left on his contract. This was the year after returning from the touchline ban where he was stitched up with that ruling. Rumours he wasn't happy with the Juventus transfer stratergy going into the season he walked away from.... Ironically Juventus signed Morata that summer, maybe Conte just really hates Morata and that's what keeps pissing him off? 

Walked away from Inter after the club started asset stripping the team (selling Lukaku being a big factor) despite him leading them to their first title in 11 years and ending Juventus' stranglehold on Serie A. 

I mean, do you think a manager like Pep would tolerate that kind of mindset from his employers? 

Honestly took no extra pleasure when we beat Jose's sides. I will with Conte, don't appreciate how he treated the club in the end.

3 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I think the boardroom thing is an overblown narrative. 

He definitely fell out with the higher ups at Chelsea but there was a lot going on in the background at the club (Diego Costa going AWOL, the B list quality of signings at the club, the protracted improved terms deal for Conte following the title win) that is no way all on him. 

He left Juventu, with a year left on his contract. This was the year after returning from the touchline ban where he was stitched up with that ruling. Rumours he wasn't happy with the Juventus transfer stratergy going into the season he walked away from.... Ironically Juventus signed Morata that summer, maybe Conte just really hates Morata and that's what keeps pissing him off? 

Walked away from Inter after the club started asset stripping the team (selling Lukaku being a big factor) despite him leading them to their first title in 11 years and ending Juventus' stranglehold on Serie A. 

I mean, do you think a manager like Pep would tolerate that kind of mindset from his employers? 

Lukaku was sold long after Conte quit. Lukaku said he wanted to stay there, and I don't doubt he would have stayed had Conte stayed. Inter probably would have sold someone else, like Martinez. 

The only one Conte knew would leave was Hakimi and he knew no big signings. So he walked. He did not accept it, despite covid.

28 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I think the boardroom thing is an overblown narrative. 

He definitely fell out with the higher ups at Chelsea but there was a lot going on in the background at the club (Diego Costa going AWOL, the B list quality of signings at the club, the protracted improved terms deal for Conte following the title win) that is no way all on him. 

He left Juventu, with a year left on his contract. This was the year after returning from the touchline ban where he was stitched up with that ruling. Rumours he wasn't happy with the Juventus transfer stratergy going into the season he walked away from.... Ironically Juventus signed Morata that summer, maybe Conte just really hates Morata and that's what keeps pissing him off? 

Walked away from Inter after the club started asset stripping the team (selling Lukaku being a big factor) despite him leading them to their first title in 11 years and ending Juventus' stranglehold on Serie A. 

I mean, do you think a manager like Pep would tolerate that kind of mindset from his employers? 

Maybe not, but then again he would never consider a mediocre club with a loser mentality like the spuds. If Conte was leaving all the title winning teams because of them failing to strengthen according to his liking, how on earth does that explain him going to a club that hasn't been competitive for like 13 years and is known for his petty owner? Makes no sense other than money.

10 minutes ago, RMH said:

Maybe not, but then again he would never consider a mediocre club with a loser mentality like the spuds. If Conte was leaving all the title winning teams because of them failing to strengthen according to his liking, how on earth does that explain him going to a club that hasn't been competitive for like 13 years and is known for his petty owner? Makes no sense other than money.

But that's just it, I'm surprised he's taken the spuds job because of his track record of winning things. 

I can't see him being at Spurs beyond the initial 18 month contract because if a club like Juventus, Manchester United or PSG come knocking I think he'll want to be somewhere with more chance of success. 

I reckon he didn't want to be out of football for too long and a Premier League job, even midtable, is still high profile and high paying. 

50 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I think the boardroom thing is an overblown narrative. 

He definitely fell out with the higher ups at Chelsea but there was a lot going on in the background at the club (Diego Costa going AWOL, the B list quality of signings at the club, the protracted improved terms deal for Conte following the title win) that is no way all on him. 

He left Juventu, with a year left on his contract. This was the year after returning from the touchline ban where he was stitched up with that ruling. Rumours he wasn't happy with the Juventus transfer stratergy going into the season he walked away from.... Ironically Juventus signed Morata that summer, maybe Conte just really hates Morata and that's what keeps pissing him off? 

Walked away from Inter after the club started asset stripping the team (selling Lukaku being a big factor) despite him leading them to their first title in 11 years and ending Juventus' stranglehold on Serie A. 

I mean, do you think a manager like Pep would tolerate that kind of mindset from his employers? 

I said back in that second season that I didn't blame him for not retaining the title but bombing us out of top four was all on him.

What Tuchel has done this season with Trevoh and too an extent Ruben has invalidated the signings excuse, if he was really upset that's all we could have got, why didn't tell the board to forget it and dip into the academy and revise at a later date with more suitable players avaliable? Would James even at 18 have been worse than Zappacosta? 

As for Inter ofcourse he was right to walk away from them after the title win due to the reason you cited but he was backed with an obscene amount of money in those two season's and was still making regular digs at his employers.

8 minutes ago, Argo said:

I said back in that second season that I didn't blame him for not retaining the title but bombing us out of top four was all on him.

What Tuchel has done this season with Trevoh and too an extent Ruben has invalidated the signings excuse, if he was really upset that's all we could have got, why didn't tell the board to forget it and dip into the academy and revise at a later date with more suitable players avaliable? Would James even at 18 have been worse than Zappacosta? 

As for Inter ofcourse he was right to walk away from them after the title win due to the reason you cited but he was backed with an obscene amount of money in those two season's and was still making regular digs at his employers.

Disagree on that last one @Argo. In no way was he right to walk away.

All he was told at the time of his departure was no new signings and Hakimi would be sold. 

Even after he left Lukaku was planning on staying. Inter backed him for 2 years despite his teams flopping in Europe and when the affects of covid hit them he ran away. He could have given them and the fans at least one season and then if his squad continued to lose its best players fair enough.

As far as he was told though it was only no new signings and Hakimi sold. Big deal.

Typical Spurs, can't even get the welcome correct.

2 minutes ago, Boyne said:

Typical Spurs, can't even get the welcome correct.

That's hilarious !

Probably had paella on the restaurant menu as well LOL

their fans on the radio being all spursy, ....."this is the one" ....."sleeping giants"....."attacking DNA".........They'll be booing him by Christmas, "don't know what your'e doing"..

Hoddle, AVB, Jose, now Conte. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. 

25 minutes ago, Boyne said:

Typical Spurs, can't even get the welcome correct.

Embarrassing.

Which is appropriate.

23 hours ago, goose said:

I’m happy enough that we got Lukaku in the summer but if we could have got Kane for similar money I would have preferred Kane. Kane is proven over many seasons in the EPL as a top CF and I’d still choose him over Lukaku.
 

Maybe you think Lulaku a better player?

@Bob stark since you asked my opinion on Kane/Lukaku, I’m interested in you’re thoughts on the two. Do you think Lukaku better fit for Chelsea.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Honestly took no extra pleasure when we beat Jose's sides. I will with Conte, don't appreciate how he treated the club in the end.

Lukaku was sold long after Conte quit. Lukaku said he wanted to stay there, and I don't doubt he would have stayed had Conte stayed. Inter probably would have sold someone else, like Martinez. 

The only one Conte knew would leave was Hakimi and he knew no big signings. So he walked. He did not accept it, despite covid.

I did take some extra pleasure because Jose disrespected whole Chelsea in multiple ways and in multiple times. Conte walked away like a winner and ever since he has always said nice things about Chelsea, the first whack thing he said was about Tuchel not using Lukaku in the best way and that's it.

Also Lukaku said a lot of things, if he really was sure about staying maybe Conte wouldn't have reacted in the same way. Fact is that Conte won them the league and the Inter owners just decided to sell 2 key players no matter what. If you ask me, pretty silly for a big club to sign a talent like Hakimi, only to sell him the very next season.

3 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

I did take some extra pleasure because Jose disrespected whole Chelsea in multiple ways and in multiple times. Conte walked away like a winner and ever since he has always said nice things about Chelsea, the first whack thing he said was about Tuchel not using Lukaku in the best way and that's it.

Also Lukaku said a lot of things, if he really was sure about staying maybe Conte wouldn't have reacted in the same way. Fact is that Conte won them the league and the Inter owners just decided to sell 2 key players no matter what. If you ask me, pretty silly for a big club to sign a talent like Hakimi, only to sell him the very next season.

Inter was on the verge of bankruptcy. A mixture of the Chinese govt not allowing Chinese corporations to pump money out of China + Serie A being the poverty league that it is right now.