I think Ake is being signed as a back up/rotation player, I still believe the club will sign a more top class defender like De Ligt or Kounde. According to Romano, Tuchel wanted 2 defenders.

40m for Ake is a total waste. Maybe use that money to secure the few quality options out there like de ligt ?!

Chelsea have full agreement with Nathan Aké on personal terms. Man City are aware of the situation on the player side, but still waiting to receive the official bid. 🔵 #CFC

City want around £40/45m for Aké and plan is to replace him with a new centre back in case he leaves.

Aké is a good player for us because he can play in 3 different positions

LCB CB and LWB 

he's a good defender, he's an improvement on Christensen imo

There you all go. Long been cried out on here for a new CB after losing Toni and AC, and qe have one who has agreed to join us as qe are in the process of agreeing a fee for Ake at around 45-50mill.

Hope that makes this place a happier place since we are signing a defender.

I expect @Term_X must be overjoyed, he has very much been pushing for us to sign a Dutch destroyer.

probably why TT sees something in him

 

 

32 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

There you all go. Long been cried out on here for a new CB after losing Toni and AC, and qe have one who has agreed to join us as qe are in the process of agreeing a fee for Ake at around 45-50mill.

Hope that makes this place a happier place since we are signing a defender.

I expect @Term_X must be overjoyed, he has very much been pushing for us to sign a Dutch destroyer.

Then why wasn't I contacted 

3 hours ago, Sindre said:

Reckon Ake will surprise quite a few this season.

Should be ideal for the LCB spot. If we get him for £40 million that's a very decent price as well. We got £20 million when we sold him to Bournemouth many years ago and he's a much, much better defender these days.

Totally agree Sindre. A lot better than many on here are giving him credit for. Sheesh! You'd think we were signing David "can't defend to save me life" Luiz.

Again!

57 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

Aké is a good player for us because he can play in 3 different positions

LCB CB and LWB 

he's a good defender, he's an improvement on Christensen imo

He can also play in central midfield if it comes to it. Versatility is big reason we are signing him. The best route for this would've been Chelsea having the foresight to not sell him originally, or buy him back from Bournemouth, and not let City buy him. But, of course, every one of those decisions were made by completely different people running the club now compared to then. I'd imagine that Ake would not have been a target this summer if the whole Russia-Ukraine war didn;t happen and Roman wasn't sanctioned.  

24 minutes ago, chiefBlueCFC said:

He can also play in central midfield if it comes to it. Versatility is big reason we are signing him. The best route for this would've been Chelsea having the foresight to not sell him originally, or buy him back from Bournemouth, and not let City buy him. But, of course, every one of those decisions were made by completely different people running the club now compared to then. I'd imagine that Ake would not have been a target this summer if the whole Russia-Ukraine war didn;t happen and Roman wasn't sanctioned.  

i don't think we made such a big mistake here, we sold him for 22.8 million euro to Bournemouth, after we payed Feyenoord 800.000 euro. He then played a lot of football for Bournemouth and he went to City for 45.3 million euro (didn't we have a sell on % clause?) where he was part (played 40 games) of one of the best teams in the league. And now we basically can buy him for 40 million pound as an experienced and versatile PL defender. Net Spend on him would be around 20 million pounds for a player with 169 PL games under his belt.

if we would have kept him on a 70k a week contract for those 5 years he has been gone he would have cost us 18 million pounds in wages (although usually the loan club will have to pay those wages, but we would probably have to give him a new contract and up his wages before sending him on loan otherwise he would have left on a free when his contract runs out)

Edited July 8, 20224 yr by azpi28

35 minutes ago, Valerie said:

Then why wasn't I contacted 

1 hour ago, azpi28 said:

probably why TT sees something in him

 

 

Ake has the advantage of only playing against the worst teams in the league at home in games City have 75%+ possession.

Ake's stats don't reflect his performances against decent opposition because he's always sat last on the bench in those games if he makes the squad at all.

Pep choosing to use his actual good centre backs in those games.

2 minutes ago, HazardousChoice said:

Ake has the advantage of only playing against the worst teams in the league at home in games City have 75%+ possession.

Ake's stats don't reflect his performances against decent opposition because he's always sat last on the bench in those games if he makes the squad at all.

Pep choosing to use his actual good centre backs in those games.

fair point

i'm actually quite excited to see what Tuchel can do with him, if he can raise his level like he did with Rüdiger

Edited July 8, 20224 yr by azpi28

Is there someway we can warn Todd he is making a big mistake buying city's number 4 defender. Depressing 😢

1 hour ago, azpi28 said:

fair point

i'm actually quite excited to see what Tuchel can do with him, if he can raise his level like he did with Rüdiger

He is really slow and terrible decision making, Thomas can't make him run faster.. Or think faster. 

He isn't that good on the ball either 🙄

Edited July 8, 20224 yr by guddy69

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

There you all go. Long been cried out on here for a new CB after losing Toni and AC, and qe have one who has agreed to join us as qe are in the process of agreeing a fee for Ake at around 45-50mill.

Hope that makes this place a happier place since we are signing a defender.

I expect @Term_X must be overjoyed, he has very much been pushing for us to sign a Dutch destroyer.

😅 Well, the ‘nationality’ is irrelevant to me. The only thing that makes me happy is that Ake is an LCB so technically we can still be in the race to sign De Ligt for the right side (one can live in delusional hope). 

I've only been impressed by him as a DM but that ship has sailed. I think his level is similar to Ampadu so we can save £40m right there.

The vast majority of City fans here are actually pissed off he's going.

35 minutes ago, guddy69 said:

He is really slow and terrible decision making, Thomas can't make him run faster.. Or think faster. 

He isn't that good on the ball either 🙄

de ligt is not that much better for more than 2x the money

Not sure what the thinking is with this one.  The only thing I can think of is premier league experience, which to be honest he hasn’t had much.  Surely someone with European and international experience like Koulibaly would be better.  I’m still hoping he’s just a backup defender, but even then it’s too much money. Versatility wise  we can use Colwill and Chalobah for defensive cover, Gallagher for midfield cover, just by a cheaper left back no need for Ake.

6 minutes ago, Argo said:

The vast majority of City fans here are actually pissed off he's going.

Most of them have only been football fans for 5 years, what do they know.

11 minutes ago, Argo said:

The vast majority of City fans here are actually pissed off he's going.

I don't understand why...

statistically he's better in the air than Rüdiger 

Rüdiger get's dribbled past twice as much per 90 as Aké

he also get's dispossessed 0.14 times per 90 while Rüdiger is at a 0.53 per 90 which is very poor while their carrying stats are similar, also Aké has not made a mistake that leads to a shooting opportunity, Rüdiger has

Rüdiger miscontrols the ball more often than Aké

he intercepts much more passes

 

just trust TT, otherwise 40 million for a experienced back up who can play 4 positions is not that much anyway

not saying he's better than toni

but TT likes his statistics 

Edited July 8, 20224 yr by azpi28

4 hours ago, Zeta said:

City will take the 40m and buy someone better with it.

Don't forget the Sterling money. They are going to make around £150 from selling Sterling, Ake and Jesus, they can find two world class players with that money to greatly improve their squad. It wouldn't surprise me if they quickly jump in and grab De Ligt.

Edited July 9, 20224 yr by Scott Harris

3 hours ago, azpi28 said:

i don't think we made such a big mistake here, we sold him for 22.8 million euro to Bournemouth, after we payed Feyenoord 800.000 euro. He then played a lot of football for Bournemouth and he went to City for 45.3 million euro (didn't we have a sell on % clause?) where he was part (played 40 games) of one of the best teams in the league. And now we basically can buy him for 40 million pound as an experienced and versatile PL defender. Net Spend on him would be around 20 million pounds for a player with 169 PL games under his belt.

if we would have kept him on a 70k a week contract for those 5 years he has been gone he would have cost us 18 million pounds in wages (although usually the loan club will have to pay those wages, but we would probably have to give him a new contract and up his wages before sending him on loan otherwise he would have left on a free when his contract runs out)

He is already on £90k/w at City, I will be surprised if he moves for anything less than £130k/w. We will effectively be signing City’s 4th choice CB as a starter, because he wants to play a back 5. He is bang average in a back 4, and if Tuchel was to leave/get sacked the next manager will inherit an average CB on massive wages. This is why we struggle to move on our duds because their wages are ridiculous.

Guehi and Fofana are better CBs, are on half his wages and will probably cost what City are demanding for Ake. But hey the manager gets to chose his signings right?