De Ligt is at least a bit more of a unit for a centre back than the diminutive Kounde.

Kounde, Silva (and Sarr who we are stuck with) would be three very short centre back options for the modern game ...  which is at least one too many, if not two.

Personally I quite like Silva, De Ligt, Chalobah and Colwill as our 4 main centre back options ... plenty of height and ball-playing ability in that quartet.

Having 3 of the 4/5 CBs as 187cm plus would be great for aerial ability at both ends of the pitch.

If we keep Ampadu for a 22/23 centre back option, he is also barely 6 feet ... 

 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

He just won player of the season at Juve. 

Why has he handed in a transfer request if he’s one of their best players? Seems abit extreme to be handing in a transfer request over contract talks 

There was a lot of hype about him at Ajax, but didn't he fail to live up to expectations at Juventus?

11 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

I mean if affordable De Ligt and Kounde either side of Silva with our two main wingbacks could be amazing. 

Reports before today said Juve want close to the release clause and 90mill would get it done, whereas Sevilla want about 53mill for Kounde.

Do we blow three quarters of a budget on 2 CBs?

We we can get both for £120m combined, that leaves 80 mil in the estimated kitty, plus whatever can be raised from other sales.

I would be ok with that.

£120m on those two

£40m on Sterling

The rest + player sales on whoever we can get in the CM spot.

Werner upfront as our undroppable number 9.

Job done

 

20 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

We we can get both for £120m combined, that leaves 80 mil in the estimated kitty, plus whatever can be raised from other sales.

I would be ok with that.

£120m on those two

£40m on Sterling

The rest + player sales on whoever we can get in the CM spot.

Werner upfront as our undroppable number 9.

Job done

 

Your assuming Juve drop their prices significantly there because no way Sevilla will.

32 minutes ago, Zeta said:

There was a lot of hype about him at Ajax, but didn't he fail to live up to expectations at Juventus?

Not sure it ranges from disappointing to player of the season?  

1 hour ago, Zeta said:

There was a lot of hype about him at Ajax, but didn't he fail to live up to expectations at Juventus?

He took a while to settle in his first season. Seems to have improved in the past year though.

Juventus defender Matthijs de Ligt is Thomas Tuchel's main target in defence this summer. Jules Kounde is seen as more of a club target for #Chelsea, with Marina Granovskaia pushing the move.

[via @Nathan_Gissing]

45 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Juventus defender Matthijs de Ligt is Thomas Tuchel's main target in defence this summer. Jules Kounde is seen as more of a club target for #Chelsea, with Marina Granovskaia pushing the move.

[via @Nathan_Gissing]

Yeah so all those marina simps were in fact wrong, They were buying who they wanted not the coach, All our targets have changed since the news that TT has now got direct input

Hopefully TT knows what he's doing and they're not all huddled around a pc using footy manager!

Edited June 24, 20224 yr by Kantesmini

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

Juventus defender Matthijs de Ligt is Thomas Tuchel's main target in defence this summer. Jules Kounde is seen as more of a club target for #Chelsea, with Marina Granovskaia pushing the move.

[via @Nathan_Gissing]

Interesting if true. Would mean our pursuit of Kounde is likely over.

First contacts between #Juve & #Chelsea has already taken place. The Blues have asked for information for #DeLigt. Juve’s position is clear: there is the will to arrive at the renewal, but a signal from the player is needed. Without it, new scenarios may open up 👀🇳🇱 @Goal

So, no update, as with every "update".

Have we entered hot days yet? Or 48 hours? 

 

15 minutes ago, chiefBlueCFC said:

Have we entered hot days yet? Or 48 hours? 

 

5 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

De Ligt is at least a bit more of a unit for a centre back than the diminutive Kounde.

Kounde, Silva (and Sarr who we are stuck with) would be three very short centre back options for the modern game ...  which is at least one too many, if not two....

 

 

I think height is a very valid point about Kounde, although it doesn't matter so much on the right side. We have to have one strong tall player who can be expected to manage opposition long balls and corners. Silva despite his height is actually excellent in the air but he only has a very little while left. He is already the oldest player in the PL, has been injured before and is hanging on for the world cup.  Someone like De Ligt makes far more sense than Kounde as a foundational player. Central defence first the wider players after. Of course we need both but the one comes before the other.

Can't help but feel that Juve aren't going to drop their price to a point where we'll pay it. Him and Kounde would be fantastic signings in my opinion but De Ligt's release clause is massive

Confirmed by Romano

#Chelsea are ready to offer Timo Werner and €25-30M for Matthijs de Ligt - Juventus want more. De Ligt and Werner are both keen on moves.

[via @Nathan_Gissing / @DiMarzio]
 

This would be ideal. 

Wish these Ake rumours would go away

#Chelsea will only offer a maximum of Timo Werner and €40-45M for Juventus defender Matthijs de Ligt. Talks ongoing. 

[via @Nathan_Gissing / @DiMarzio]

Really good news if true, a way better signing than Kounde (who has an operation and is arguably too short for the prem), not to mention it gets Werners wages off our books (as much as I like his effort he's not worth what he's getting paid).

17 minutes ago, JM7 said:

#Chelsea will only offer a maximum of Timo Werner and €40-45M for Juventus defender Matthijs de Ligt. Talks ongoing. 

[via @Nathan_Gissing / @DiMarzio]

Juventus would be idiots to turn that down. Werner would wreak havoc in Serie A.

6 hours ago, Zeta said:

There was a lot of hype about him at Ajax, but didn't he fail to live up to expectations at Juventus?

From lurking Juventus fan threads a while ago they all seemed to think he was class

24 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Wish these Ake rumours would go away

Will probably be our deadline day panic signing for 50mil knowing us

48 minutes ago, JM7 said:

#Chelsea are ready to offer Timo Werner and €25-30M for Matthijs de Ligt - Juventus want more. De Ligt and Werner are both keen on moves.

[via @Nathan_Gissing / @DiMarzio]
 

This would be ideal. 

Well that would solve the Werner problem. However Werners value must have plummeted for us. They will probably still want 80mill plus Werner.