So peeps question l, if he goes and totally bosses it would you want him back or for him to still get sold on the basis of his performances for us?

Hard to see what’s really in this for us.

I don't rate him at all but this is not a deal I am happy with. I'm what way is this a win for us. It's a good gamble for utd. He helps them get top 4 or fails and has only cost them 2m and wages. Would rather loan him out to another country.

10 minutes ago, Adamrb said:

Hard to see what’s really in this for us.

Apparently we want a 7mill loan fee.

If we insert a Obligation to Buy based on x amount of performances I think this is a win.

If it’s just a 2-7M fee + wages seems a strange one on our behalf.

However… Cucurella lining up next to Maguire could be absolute gold.

Really hope this means maatsen signs new deal

21 minutes ago, Adamrb said:

Hard to see what’s really in this for us.

Maatsen's road to the side opens up. I really support this move. I have seen absolutely nothing to support the idea he rips it up at MU. I think he is not a good footballer. Physically he is a top athlete or there abouts. Otherwise he is just a body. A body we paid wayyy too much of.

32 minutes ago, Simmo_SLIx said:

If we insert a Obligation to Buy based on x amount of performances I think this is a win.

United are desperate. I would be disappointed if we don't have some sort of obligation to buy inserted in this deal.

I don't see much points of this, unless there's a obligation buy clause. He will come back a year older, not much better or wiser next season, then what?

Poch must really trust Maatsen or want to keep playing Colwill as a left back cos sadly we all know chilly won’t stay fit all season 

9 hours ago, abister1 said:

So peeps question l, if he goes and totally bosses it would you want him back or for him to still get sold on the basis of his performances for us?

I'm pretty sure that he could not even boss his wife and kids, let alone Premier league forwards. Can you imagine how much Bloom and his Directors are laughing at Brighton ???

Edited August 30, 20232 yr by coombsie

6 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

I don't see much points of this, unless there's a obligation buy clause. He will come back a year older, not much better or wiser next season, then what?

We have the useless tw*t on our books for at least the next seven years !! nobody is going to buy him or pay his wages for more than a season.

9 hours ago, abister1 said:

So peeps question l, if he goes and totally bosses it would you want him back or for him to still get sold on the basis of his performances for us?

🤑🤑🤑🤑

 

Onana

AWB  Varane  Martinez  Cucurella

 

PMSL make it happen Todd, the world needs to see this.

26 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Onana

AWB  Varane  Martinez  Cucurella

 

PMSL make it happen Todd, the world needs to see this.

Rashford 

Eriksen 

Cucurella - Martinez

😍😍😍

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Onana

AWB  Varane  Martinez  Cucurella

 

PMSL make it happen Todd, the world needs to see this.

Varane Injured

                              Onana

AWB   Evans   Martinez   Cucurella

 

Hahaha

We will need 9 million pounds on loan just to cover his wages.  I would be happy to see him out on loan this year.  

He and Maguire can be a keystone cops pairing on the left side.

31 minutes ago, Swerved said:

We will need 9 million pounds on loan just to cover his wages.  I would be happy to see him out on loan this year.  

He and Maguire can be a keystone cops pairing on the left side.

The loan fee is additional to them paying his wages 

43 minutes ago, Swerved said:

We will need 9 million pounds on loan just to cover his wages.  I would be happy to see him out on loan this year.  

He and Maguire can be a keystone cops pairing on the left side.

That is not how FFP works. If he goes out on loan, with UTD paying his wages, then his wages are off our books for the season.

His Transfer fee is still an issue though. Roughly:

Transfer fee: £55m

Length of contract: 6 years

FFP cost of transfer fee per year: £9.2m per year.

 

So a loan fee, of say £2m - would see us register a FFP loss of £7.2m on his book value for the season, but we will save around £9m per year on his salary. This is vastly preferable to the option of keeping him as backup, which would cost us the full book value of his transfer for the season PLUS his wages - so overall £18.2m (ish) per season.

 

Quietly hope he does well there and proves his doubters wrong.

He was good at Brighton and remember him being the best player on the pitch against us.

Memories are often conveniently short in football.

13 minutes ago, Sheva said:

Quietly hope he does well there and proves his doubters wrong.

He was good at Brighton and remember him being the best player on the pitch against us.

Memories are often conveniently short in football.

He also had at least one MOTM performance for us before he went to sh*t (possibly Everton away?), and he was quite good on another game (I think Spurs he was quite good).

9 minutes ago, RMH said:

He also had at least one MOTM performance for us before he went to sh*t (possibly Everton away?), and he was quite good on another game (I think Spurs he was quite good).

In my opinion, everyone can be given a pass for last season. Especially those who had last season as their first with us.

We were an absolute shambles.

17 minutes ago, RMH said:

He also had at least one MOTM performance for us before he went to sh*t (possibly Everton away?), and he was quite good on another game (I think Spurs he was quite good).

Dortmund 2nd leg. Was immense.

20 minutes ago, RMH said:

He also had at least one MOTM performance for us before he went to sh*t (possibly Everton away?), and he was quite good on another game (I think Spurs he was quite good).

Yup on here we are often so quick to right off players without looking at other cirumstances and the environment they are in. The next couple of years could be a bumpy ride with most of the squad on 8 year contracts. 😅

The best we can hope for is that he does well and we want to keep him or Utd offer us something we can't refuse.

How does this make sense after selling Lewis Hall.  What happens when Chilwell gets his annual long term injury.