4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Free fall began with Tuchel. 

Not really, 3 wins in 6 is a dodgy start, not free fall. The free fall started when we lost 4-1 to Brighton.

21 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

We're arguably playing just a bad as when Lampard was sacked

Frank actually had us scoring, he just couldnt get us to defend. Everyone wanted Rudiger out of the club, lol.

For Brighton, he went through the whole of 2020 with just one home win. In the 21/22 season, Brighton had a 12 game winless run, shortly followed by a run where they lost 6 in a row. Even in his best season Brighton were one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.

 

I really don't get where all the hype around him has come from.

I've still yet to see a single name that we should have as manager instead of potter other than tuchel where we also almost certainly in my mind would be playing this poorly. 

2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Not really, 3 wins in 6 is a dodgy start, not free fall. The free fall started when we lost 4-1 to Brighton.

We had a better start to the season than Liverpool did, Klopp has since managed to turn things around and they're on the up now, yet we couldn't give Tuchel that same time.

I guess we got to trust the process and hope he turns it around. 

Very difficult to see positives, we had some horrible results under Tuchel, but I cant remember us getting dominated and playing for draws apart from City. Usually we were getting caught on the counter, today that wasnt possible as we barely got over the half way line. 

Happy to have a break. 

3 minutes ago, smileysmiles said:

Frank actually had us scoring, he just couldnt get us to defend. Everyone wanted Rudiger out of the club, lol.

This is a myth; Frank's average scoring was the same as Tuchel and even Sarri. Our team hasn't been scoring since the trio of Fabrgas, Hazard and Costa fell apart. Since then, the club has been throwing money at Generational talents only for them to fail. Our midfield has also got worse since Fabregas left and Kante became injury prone. 

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4 minutes ago, smileysmiles said:

Frank actually had us scoring, he just couldnt get us to defend. Everyone wanted Rudiger out of the club, lol.

This was not true for the end period (the part the poster you quoted is referring too).

We were playing like Tony Pulis' Stoke without the being difficult to beat element.

Edited November 12, 20223 yr by Argo

2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Not really, 3 wins in 6 is a dodgy start, not free fall. The free fall started when we lost 4-1 to Brighton.

The football was poor and wasn’t sustainable.  Since August. 
 

You can point the finger at which ever manager you like, point remains the same sh*t football we are watching is the exact same sh*t football we saw in preseason. 

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

For Brighton, he went through the whole of 2020 with just one home win. In the 21/22 season, Brighton had a 12 game winless run, shortly followed by a run where they lost 6 in a row. Even in his best season Brighton were one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.

 

I really don't get where all the hype around him has come from.

He is s fraud,

 

cant believe boehly and co appointed him. Which is another very questionable move by the owners

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

For Brighton, he went through the whole of 2020 with just one home win. In the 21/22 season, Brighton had a 12 game winless run, shortly followed by a run where they lost 6 in a row. Even in his best season Brighton were one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.

 

I really don't get where all the hype around him has come from.

In the PL at Brighton, he had a win percentage of 28% !!!

34 wins in 120 games .... (44 draws, 42 defeats)

I think Boehly's team of analysts must be smoking some pretty strong weed if they came up with Potter as the manager that "improves his teams the most "... 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

The football was poor and wasn’t sustainable.  Since August. 
 

You can point the finger at which ever manager you like, point remains the same sh*t football we are watching is the exact same sh*t football we saw in preseason. 

I don't remember any games where we spent the entire match camped in our own half under Tuchel

Don't let this snake oil salesman fool you, he is clueless. He is not a competent manager whatsoever. Boehly bought his snake-oil for 5 long, venomous years. 

God in heaven let this be the end 

1 minute ago, Andy2461 said:

God in heaven let this be the end 

sadly Ithink its the beginning

3 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

I don't remember any games where we spent the entire match camped in our own half under Tuchel

Arsenal preseason. It was almost a carbon copy. 

13 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

You probably can't get them going with any coach, but a good coach would at least steady things a bit and make them competitive. Under Potter, it's just free fall.

So who and when? Would your choice be to sack Potter now (if at all), and replace him with Person X, or wait?

This situation is one of the reasons I didn't want Tuchel sacked, there's usually not a viable follow-up scenario. And screaming for Potter's blood may be a way to blow off some steam, but I've yet to see a suggestion how to move on should Potter leave., nothing more than the usual unhelpful Clear out the deadwood.

I think Potter being similar to Tuchel is o e of the reasons why we aren’t seeing an improvement. 

6 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Arsenal preseason. It was almost a carbon copy. 

In pre season, never in competitive football 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

I think Potter being similar to Tuchel is o e of the reasons why we aren’t seeing an improvement. 

Just a worse version of Tuchel. 3-4-3 passing football but nowhere near as sharp tactically

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

I think Potter being similar to Tuchel is o e of the reasons why we aren’t seeing an improvement. 

This is the key point. Potter was always a b-tech Tuchel. If the problem was with Tuchel's tactics then why hire a lesser version of him. Why not go for a different approach?

Again highlights to me that Boehly and his team are very seriously out of their depth.

4 minutes ago, Valerie said:

So who and when? Would your choice be to sack Potter now (if at all), and replace him with Person X, or wait?

This situation is one of the reasons I didn't want Tuchel sacked, there's usually not a viable follow-up scenario. And screaming for Potter's blood may be a way to blow off some steam, but I've yet to see a suggestion how to move on should Potter leave., nothing more than the usual unhelpful Clear out the deadwood.

I think he’s lost the dressing room. He doesnt command any respect from the players. I think in the match when Silva looked at Potter and threw his hands up as if to say what the fck are you doing? Said a lot. And from here things can go really bad, a lot worse than this.

1 minute ago, Vialli96 said:

I think he’s lost the dressing room. He doesnt command any respect from the players. I think in the match when Silva looked at Potter and threw his hands up as if to say what the fck are you doing? Said a lot. And from here things can go really bad, a lot worse than this.

Some people think we've reached rock bottom ... I think we're just getting started !

3 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

In pre season, never in competitive football 

But it’s the exact same football since then? This was notoriously the start of Tuchel blaming the players publicly.  
 

2 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

This is the key point. Potter was always a b-tech Tuchel. If the problem was with Tuchel's tactics then why hire a lesser version of him. Why not go for a different approach?

Again highlights to me that Boehly and his team are very seriously out of their depth.

Boehly is making the right moves for the long term imo but it’s the short term that is killing us now. 

1 minute ago, Vialli96 said:

I think he’s lost the dressing room. He doesnt command any respect from the players. I think in the match when Silva looked at Potter and threw his hands up as if to say what the fck are you doing? Said a lot. And from here things can go really bad, a lot worse than this.

Even if he has lost the dressing room, firing him will exactly send the wrong message we don't want to send. It will mean that player power persists in the club, and they can fire any manager they want.