3 hours ago, coombsie said:

I agree mate, but we (the Owners) have done this to ourselves. Good players want to leave because we no longer offer the big Champions League nights, prestige, bonuses etc and new players are refusing to join us for the same reason. I think that we honestly have to consider ourselves lucky not to have been relegated, as that would have been a whole lot worse, We will keep some very good players in James, Silva, Chilwell, Mudryk and must use them as a sound foundation to rebuild. I am optimistic that Pochettino is the right man to bring in and play regularly, players like Slonina, Casadei, Chukwuemeka, Colvill, Madueke Santos etc. and this could be exciting to watch and save us a fortune

I agree, but the reality that we also have to swallow is that he has to trim this squad down and the only players that seem to have maketeability are our homegrown players and the only people with anywhere near the money we need are our domestic rivals. All foreign suitors will continue to takethe pi$$ offering loans only for our players and wanting top dollar for theirs.

I suspect we have to take a bit of a bath on the players that leave, minimise this as much as possible, let Pochettino work with what we have and pray that we have sufficient within this group to build a solid defence, mobile midfield and credible attack out of. 

Bayern have apparently swept in and entered into talks with Brighton for him.
Caicedo himself wants Champions League football.

Everyone claim they want play CL next season, until a good enough offer to change their mind. I'm not too concerned about no European football would deter our targets from joining us, it's not like world class players were knocking on the door to join us when we were in CL a few seasons in a row. What's more concerning is the FFP situation ( still nobody really knows what is going on), and the owner is taking a different approach in transfer market, and happy to sell just about anyone to make up for the mad spending last season.

14 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Everyone claim they want play CL next season, until a good enough offer to change their mind. I'm not too concerned about no European football would deter our targets from joining us, it's not like world class players were knocking on the door to join us when we were in CL a few seasons in a row. What's more concerning is the FFP situation ( still nobody really knows what is going on), and the owner is taking a different approach in transfer market, and happy to sell just about anyone to make up for the mad spending last season.

The need to sell has nothing to do with the new owners' spending. It's to clear the debt accumulated over the last 3 seasons. Which is to say, the Abramovich era.

1 minute ago, dermott said:

The need to sell has nothing to do with the new owners' spending. It's to clear the debt accumulated over the last 3 seasons. Which is to say, the Abramovich era.

Roman cleared the debt before the sale.

If you are talking about a FFP hangover then you would be right but what we've done since last summer have only rubbed salt in the wound. The 22/23 books will be a disaster and tat won't be Romans fault.

11 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Roman cleared the debt before the sale.

If you are talking about a FFP hangover then you would be right but what we've done since last summer have only rubbed salt in the wound. The 22/23 books will be a disaster and tat won't be Romans fault.

The debt he cleared is unrelated to FFP which is based on trading profit and loss. The problem is the accumulated trading losses over the last 3 years. The new owners' spending will be a lot less of a problem because the purchases have been amortised over the lengths of the contracts, eight years for the most part. Which means 1/8th of each outgoing purchase pound will count against this year's books. 

3 minutes ago, dermott said:

The debt he cleared is unrelated to FFP which is based on trading profit and loss. The problem is the accumulated trading losses over the last 3 years. The new owners' spending will be a lot less of a problem because the purchases have been amortised over the lengths of the contracts, eight years for the most part. Which means 1/8th of each outgoing purchase pound will count against this year's books. 

True enough. But reality is that those £90 million extra in transfer amortisations puts us in a rough spot when you take everything else into consideration. In addition to that we've spent a lot of money on compensation to Brighton, Red Bull and others for managers/staff and not 1 but 2 compensations for sackings in one year.

Swiss Ramble predicted we'd lose £163 million back in January before we signed Enzo and before we sacked Potter. He's normally fairly conservative so us losing close to £200m on the 22/23 books is realistic. We would then be breaking the financial rules even after deductions for Covid and everything else and would likely face a charge like Everton.

It also puts us in the hole for the future of course with no Champions League money (£100m++) for next years books and very possibly not for the year after that either.

 

Edited June 15, 20233 yr by Sconnie Blue

 

When secret scout speaks, you listen. 
 

 

25 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

When secret scout speaks, you listen. 
 

 

Sounds good...

Got the whiff of De Ligt again, with Bayern lurking, allegedly

6 hours ago, OriginalS said:

Bayern have apparently swept in and entered into talks with Brighton for him.
Caicedo himself wants Champions League football.

Tuchel is about to screw Bayern again, Caicedo isn’t what they need. They a need a midfielder to play a disciplined role and sit deep next to Kimmich, Caicedo just isn’t that player.

20 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Tuchel is about to screw Bayern again, Caicedo isn’t what they need. They a need a midfielder to play a disciplined role and sit deep next to Kimmich, Caicedo just isn’t that player.

Bayern don't get players the manager wants. Havertz and Mount would be Bayern players if that were the case. 

Bayern shouldn't be wasting their time with Caicedo.

They should try for Camavinga or anyone from France. 

 

Pochettino will have his targets, work with the board and decide who are best. At the end of the day Pochettino is the man at the helm, let him build how he sees fit. 

Caicedo is to @Sconnie Blueas Enzo was/Is to @Argo

Sconnie what do you think, Brighton demand Colwill and refuse to sell to us otherwise? Is not like Moises is short of offers.

Would be a great signing. I’m worried about Colwill going the other way though, unless he extends contract and goes back on loan.

Bloom is such a weird looking geezer, this facial expression when he’s presenting us with that £40m package for Colwill.. nightmares.

❗️X News #Caicedo: He has decided to join @ChelseaFC! Final negotiations now … #CFC 

@SkySportDE 🇪🇨

Not very bowled over, far too much money too!

He’s going on a Chelsea liking spree

51 minutes ago, JM7 said:

❗️X News #Caicedo: He has decided to join @ChelseaFC! Final negotiations now … #CFC 

@SkySportDE 🇪🇨

If our own JM7 is reporting that, then I believe we stand a good chance, but not if Bloom stands by 120mill. Me thinks that is a price designed to force us to give up Colwill.

And Moises is not worth giving up Colwill for. He is our new Richardo Carvalho.

3 minutes ago, Mod said:

Not very bowled over, far too much money too!

@Sconnie BlueBlue can you help poor old Mod get excited mate?