I did compare Tony Bloom to Napolis ADL for a reason.

Last year Cucurellas price went up from 52mill to 62mill because we would not sell Colwill to them, only loan him.

Now they want 100mill for Caicedo as we won't load or sell them Colwill, rather than previously rumoured 80-85mill.

How many years did ADL refuses to sell top players unless he received huge money or they entered the last year of their deals? 

Brighton having a cracking owner, tough as nails. Their fans must love him like Napolis do ADL.

Caicedo and his agency dropped the ball here. Should've had something binding written down on a price for him to leave as part of that extension. 

 

4 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Happy to keep Caicedo after promising the player to sell him in the summer. 

What lovely bunch. 

More fool him for signing an extension tbf

4 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

I bet we would get him him for £50 mill+Colwill?

But by their reckoning that is surely £120m in total.

I still need somebody to explain to me why Caciedo would be worth double what Colwill is worth

Walk away now.

Rumours that Bayern are willing to sell Joshua Kimmich as they look to raise money for Kane. We need experienced players now and he’d be brilliant for us I’ve no doubt. Stick in a bid at the very least to show Brighton we have options.

if we pay anything north of £80 million for Caecedo then we’ve been mugged again. He might end up a world star but he’s nowhere near proving that yet.

If they want £100 million then the deal should be a fee of £50 million tops with £50 million in add ons. If Brighton received the whole £100 million in the end it would mean Caecedo was performing for us

 

16 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

Walk away now.

Rumours that Bayern are willing to sell Joshua Kimmich as they look to raise money for Kane. We need experienced players now and he’d be brilliant for us I’ve no doubt. Stick in a bid at the very least to show Brighton we have options.

if we pay anything north of £80 million for Caecedo then we’ve been mugged again. He might end up a world star but he’s nowhere near proving that yet.

I agree. Kimmich, Kessie, Locatelli, Goretzka. There is plenty of experience out there. I would like to see Caceido at Chelsea but not at the expense of all this f*ckery for a whole summer again.

Edited July 18, 20233 yr by WhiteWall

32 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

I did compare Tony Bloom to Napolis ADL for a reason.

Last year Cucurellas price went up from 52mill to 62mill because we would not sell Colwill to them, only loan him.

Now they want 100mill for Caicedo as we won't load or sell them Colwill, rather than previously rumoured 80-85mill.

How many years did ADL refuses to sell top players unless he received huge money or they entered the last year of their deals? 

Brighton having a cracking owner, tough as nails. Their fans must love him like Napolis do ADL.

Personally if I was Clearlake, I'd be avoiding doing any more business with Brighton. They are right up there with Inter Milan and Barcelona in terms of wanting deals to be too much in their favour.

1 minute ago, 19seventyone said:

If they want £100 million then the deal should be a fee of £50 million tops with £50 million in add ons. If Brighton received the whole £100 million in the end it would mean Caecedo was performing for us

 

We kind of shot ourselves in the foot by giving Shaktar 62 million up front + 30 million in add ons for Mudryk.

If I was a club owner and had Caicedo I would never ever let a player of his quality leave for less than the total committment for someone like Mudryk.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Caicedo and his agency dropped the ball here. Should've had something binding written down on a price for him to leave as part of that extension. 

 

Exactly mate. Nothing Caicedo can do now, transfer request means nothing these days.

29 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I agree. Kimmich, Kessie, Locatelli, Goretzka. There is plenty of experience out there. I would like to see Caceido at Chelsea but not at the expense of all this f*ckery for a whole summer again.

Bayern being willing to let Kimmich go is a massive red flag, if we get a free run at him then said red flag has sirens on top of it.

The Brighton friendly is coming up fast on 22nd July ... would be hilarious if Caicedo played the first half for Brighton, signed for Chelsea at half time, and then played the second half for Chelsea LOL.

The PR for both sides would be immense 🙂 

35 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

We kind of shot ourselves in the foot by giving Shaktar 62 million up front + 30 million in add ons for Mudryk.

If I was a club owner and had Caicedo I would never ever let a player of his quality leave for less than the total committment for someone like Mudryk.

I would have no problem with an offer that was structured in a way that if he was a success he costs us 100m

10 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I would have no problem with an offer that was structured in a way that if he was a success he costs us 100m

Surely this pointless offer, which I think only matched Arsenal's,  will be replaced with a follow up of 85m plus add ons

16 minutes ago, Argo said:

Bayern being willing to let Kimmich go is a massive red flag, if we get a free run at him then said red flag has sirens on top of it.

There’s always risk in signing anyone but Kimmich stays fit by and large, is only 28 so unlikely his performances have fallen off a cliff.

If he is for sale it says more about Tuchel than Kimmich in my opinion.

it would only be us, City, Liverpool and PSG who would be serious bidders 

Just like with Kane, it’s his own fault, he signed that extension to his contract after the Arsenal contact but clearly his agent hasn’t negotiated that to an extent to which it makes a future deal viable enough. Caicedo was in a bit of a rock & a hard place admittedly, as his wage was low but still had time on the original deal.. nevertheless, after this saga, it’s clear his agency has f**ked it. 

Why are some of you upset with the price of the player?  The money isn't coming from any of us

24 minutes ago, KokeFran96 said:

Why are some of you upset with the price of the player?  The money isn't coming from any of us

Because it sets the tone, or more appropriately continues it. 

It means we will never be at the "good end" of any transfer activity because clubs, that is, all clubs will always look to mug us off. 

Everyone we’ve signed from Brighton or sent to Brighton have played extremely well. Take them out of them and they all look rubbish. For all the hype of Colwill, he only played 17 times for them. 
 

I think Caicedo is gonna be a massive flop and overhyped. 

We will never balance the book if we just throw 100M around every season. Forget FFP, if the club is in sh1t state financially, it won't be long before another firesale and reboot. There are alternatives out there, just need to get one in and revisit Caceido a year or 2 down the road if we are still keen. There's no way we could take the current bunch of kids into a new season, regardless the promise and talent. Preferably, we get someone over 25 with experience for a change.

9 hours ago, JM7 said:

Everyone we’ve signed from Brighton or sent to Brighton have played extremely well. Take them out of them and they all look rubbish. For all the hype of Colwill, he only played 17 times for them. 
 

I think Caicedo is gonna be a massive flop and overhyped. 

Exactly. Brighton has a clear tactic and system where everyone knows the their role. This allows players to unfold... I mean, look at March or Gross. 

Not sure that Caicedo will necessarily flop per say. But we did see Bissouma doing exactly what Caicedo is doing when he was playing for Brighton.
- Now he's one of the biggest disappointments of last seasons PL. 

That could happen as well for Caicedo - but on the other hand his performances for the NT has also been decent.

He looks great for the role we want him in. If he furthermore manage to free up something for Enzo it'll be massive.

However, there are other options available for less - that statistically aren't much different. 

12 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

I agree. Kimmich, Kessie, Locatelli, Goretzka. There is plenty of experience out there. I would like to see Caceido at Chelsea but not at the expense of all this f*ckery for a whole summer again.

Locatelli is over rated. Goretzka and Kimmich are very good options we can explore for experience and in the case of Kimmich, his versatility would be a bonus.

Even Kessie is not a bad option as a pure DM. He is strong and skilfull on the ball although not quite young. Whether he would leave Barca is another matter entirely

10 minutes ago, d-one said:

Even Kessie is not a bad option as a pure DM. He is strong and skilfull on the ball although not quite young. Whether he would leave Barca is another matter entirely

He's only 26. Should have plenty of good years in him. He does seem like more of a box-to-box midfielder IMO. 
- At Milan he was primarily playing as the 8 - not an out-and-out 6-role.

Personally I believe that the club are looking at at defensive-minded midfielder that can help Enxo gaining more freedom in the midfield. Could be wrong though.

There is no way Kimmich is leaving Bayern, he is a key player. Wouldn’t even go near him because we will have the same issue Bayern have with him & Groetzka, none of them wants to/has the discipline to sit in the middle. That is why they have signed Laimer. There is also the small problem that he is on ridiculous wages; £300k/w. Not happening!