if Potter was a foreign manager every pundit would be saying he can't survive - he's getting patience simply because he's English 

5 minutes ago, loz said:

Exactly what was happening in the latter months of Tuchel's era yet people think he should come back.

This squad lacks strength of character and massively lacks will to win and leadership. That's on Tuchel for now

The only obvious difference here seems to be that the players downed tools even earlier than usual. Normally they give a manager a year or so.

1 minute ago, Jackbuchanan said:

Sounds like a lot of excuses. This team won the Champions League 18 months ago, was easily making top 4 under Tuchel, and now we look like a relegation fodder.

THIS team did NOT win the Champions league 19 months ago though did it and there were ELEVEN players on the pitch that night too! They wouldn't have won it with 10 would they!? 

5 minutes ago, smileysmiles said:

Rubbish Tuchel dealt with more and finished top 4.

 

This season was going off the rails under Tuchel with a healthier squad. Personally, I think we should have kept him and let him ride it out but there's no denying there were issues before he was sacked.

7 minutes ago, TimesUpPotter said:

Without even mentioning the top managers or managers like Poch, Enrique and Bielsa that are free

the bottom half has managers like Moyes, Unai Emery, Lopetegui, Rodgers 4 managers that have indisputably had better careers then Potter.

I wouldn't want any of the 7 desperately but I'd take all 7 over Potter

Potter really is as bottom of the barrel as it gets, it's like if a team at the top hired Ian Holloway when his Blackpool was getting media hype a decade ago

You don't know what you're talking about!

3 minutes ago, Droyman said:

He did? What did Tuchel deal with that was 'more' exactly!!?  And he would NOT be finishing anywhere near top 4 this season - not even with a fully fit squad!!

Your kidding right, key injuries the club looking bankrupt. 

13 minutes ago, loz said:

No doubt there will be the normal Potter out frothing at the mouth after that but, for me, tonight is not on Potter. Don't think he got much wrong. This one is on the players. Awful defending for the first, awful goalkeeping for the second. Stupidity by Felix for the red and yet another piss poor performance by Kovacic, Koulibaly, Mount, Chalobah, and Havertz. 

Then Jorginho and Ziyech came on and you knew it was playing with 8 men time.

Chukuwuemka has to get a decent run now and I think the criticism of Hall was over the top tonight. Yes he lost the ball which eventually resulted in the opener but I felt he, along with Felix, was the only player who was trying to create anything when we had 11 men. I'd stick with him ahead of Cucurella.

Really hope Zakaria has only suffered a tweak because he is head and shoulders ahead of Jorginho for the rest of the season. 

We are all venting our frustration tonight so posts get buried pretty quickly.

I just wanted to bump this great post to make sure everyone has a chance to read it.

Great post @loz

Just now, Pob said:

 

This season was going off the rails under Tuchel with a healthier squad. Personally, I think we should have kept him and let him ride it out but there's no denying there were issues before he was sacked.

This EXACTLY - AND he had the first team out there AND he finished games with ELEVEN men! 

I'm so used to a bad run of results leading to the managers sacking that it just seems inevitable. 

We will see how long the board hold thier nerve but no decent player in thier right mind would want to come Chelsea at the moment. How can an investment company justify throwing £250m at this car crash.

They must be looking elsewhere, surely.

2 minutes ago, Droyman said:

I think Potters luck HAS to change at some point - once we at least some of our better players back AND if we can see out a game with 11 men we will start to see an uptick.  Surely Potters luck can't go on like this?  What is important is that we stick with him and address the real issues here, we need a team overhaul thats for sure.

I'm waiting for him to run up the touch line trip over a match stick and break his leg and have a long concussion to put him in a coma for the rest of the season....knowing his luck since he came he it will probably happen.    Emotional intelligence...who needs it.  I hope he can cope or he will become a broken man...still there is always.....

Bring In JT As A Coach, Some Players Need To Go Back And Learn The Basics

Need A Massive Overhaul Of The Squad, Stop Buying Players For Essentially A Farming System Of Loan After Loan And Never Playing For Chelsea

If Potter Stays Then Todd Look For Players Who Fit His System Don't Just Buy Someone Based Off Their Name Who Only Suits One System

how long is felix out

 

I don’t think the club can just keep spending money. I don’t think it’s really going to help. Doesn’t seem to be the issue. 

8 minutes ago, loz said:

This squad lacks strength of character and massively lacks will to win and leadership. That's on Tuchel

This squad lacks strength of character and massively lacks will to win and leadership. But it is not GP's fault. 

Did I get that right?

1 minute ago, Droyman said:

You don't know what you're talking about!

Which of those managers does Potter have a better resume than?

When clubs like Villa and Wolves are hiring more successful and proven managers than us while they're in the bottom 5 that should be sending alarm bells to anyone.

Potter isn't a Chelsea manager his resume shows nothing to suggest he was ready for an elite club.

5 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

OK so Tuchel lost some matches and he was sacked. Sack Potter now too, this isn't the first one he lost.

And the result of doing that would be another manager who inherits a sub-par team and starts losing games!! Do you know anything about Chelsea's history?

3 minutes ago, forbzy said:

The only obvious difference here seems to be that the players downed tools even earlier than usual. Normally they give a manager a year or so.

I think they tried today I just think they are lost with what they should be doing, and Potter doesn't help changing the way we play every few days.

1 minute ago, alwayshopeful said:

how long is felix out

 

misses Palace, Liverpool and Fulham. can't play in the league until 11 Feb

29 minutes ago, Jackson27 said:

This Has Been Slowly Coming For The Club For Years, Recruitment Has Been sh*te For Years, Clean House, Whole Rebuild, Take A Liverpool/City Couple Of Years Rebuild, So Many Average Players Thinking They Are Quality When They Are Just Average, Only James Would Get In Any Other Team In The Top 6

The problem you have is the high wages, especially for those that need to be binned...

Just now, Stas1 said:

This squad lacks strength of character and massively lacks will to win and leadership. But it is not GP's fault. 

Did I get that right?

It Wasn't On Tuchel But He Didn't Think Midfield Needed Sorting So That's On Him, This Whole Thing Goes Back To Even Before Our Transfer Ban I Say 

1 minute ago, Droyman said:

Is this site full of recent gloryhunters?  Are there any real Chelsea fans on here?

You settle for mediocrity and want to take the club in the direction and path Arsenal were on for 20 years and win nothing. When’s its not working and there’s not one positive sign it will work you change it…it’s called being pragmatic and forward thinking. That’s a real Chelsea fan. Stop living in fantasy land. 

2 minutes ago, JM7 said:

I don’t think the club can just keep spending money. I don’t think it’s really going to help. Doesn’t seem to be the issue. 

Going to get relegated at this rate. 

1 minute ago, Droyman said:

And the result of doing that would be another manager who inherits a sub-par team and starts losing games!! Do you know anything about Chelsea's history?

Sure, let's continue, why stop at Potter?

2 minutes ago, alwayshopeful said:

how long is felix out

 

Misses the next 3 league games. So won't be back until West Ham away Feb 11

20 minutes ago, loz said:

No doubt there will be the normal Potter out frothing at the mouth after that but, for me, tonight is not on Potter. Don't think he got much wrong. This one is on the players. Awful defending for the first, awful goalkeeping for the second. Stupidity by Felix for the red and yet another piss poor performance by Kovacic, Koulibaly, Mount, Chalobah, and Havertz. 

Then Jorginho and Ziyech came on and you knew it was playing with 8 men time.

Chukuwuemka has to get a decent run now and I think the criticism of Hall was over the top tonight. Yes he lost the ball which eventually resulted in the opener but I felt he, along with Felix, was the only player who was trying to create anything when we had 11 men. I'd stick with him ahead of Cucurella.

Really hope Zakaria has only suffered a tweak because he is head and shoulders ahead of Jorginho for the rest of the season. 

GREAT post & spot on!