Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

None of these hasbeens would play for either manager. 

He'd at least have the team organised, even this season he had 10 points in 6 games, which is 5th/6th form

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

Tuchel would

What happened at Elland Road earlier in the season?

1 minute ago, TimesUpPotter said:

This forum doesn't have enough bandwidth to list all the better managers than Potter in the game today

List them. 

Jorginho’s lobbed passes make me want to drink bleach. 

Just now, Drogba1 said:

It was pretty deserved to be fair

Red card yes but you could clearly see him pulling his leg back right after the bad contact and he knew he committed the foul as well so it's not like he wanted to hurt someone so a huge susupension of more matches would be such a typical exaggeration... 

Just now, Droyman said:

Tuchel lost 0-3 to Leeds while having his first 11 AND 10 men playing!!

The warnings of this sh*tshow season were there much earlier than that too. We looked a total mess in pre-season culminating in an embarassing hammering by Arsenal.

can’t see us getting 15 points

Just now, Drogba1 said:

He'd at least have the team organised, even this season he had 10 points in 6 games, which is 5th/6th form

He also DIDN'T have nearly all of his first team out with injuries!! 

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

He'd at least have the team organised, even this season he had 10 points in 6 games, which is 5th/6th form

Southgate sh*ts over both of them as he’s the only one that benches Mount. 

2 minutes ago, rocker_joker said:

We do have better overall players than most of the teams, but its seems that Potter is not capable to get his team selection and tactics right in any games.

Player quality is only the issue when we're against a top 3-4 side.

We keep getting steamrolled by sides with lesser player quality than us.

That is the manager. And the higherups. Something is rotten. Smells like buttfungus. 

Just now, rocker_joker said:

If Potter is booted tomorrow. Would that make Chelsea the first team to have 3 managers in one season?

Nah - look at Watford's record.

Fulham themselves had Jol-Magath-Meulensteen in that weird season when they finally went down.

Just now, enigma said:

Maybe, maybe  not given the issue with injuries. We wouldn't be as offensive that's for sure. Maybe we would have had a few extra points, but the way he started the season I'm not so confident. But he's gone,  so who else? 

Wouldn't be as offensive? We were one of the best teams in the league in terms of chances created under Tuchel, under Potter we're not one of the worst. When we couldn't score under Tuchel he got the blame, yet now we're even worse under Potter yet it's only the player's fault,

Just now, forbzy said:

The warnings of this sh*tshow season were there much earlier than that too. We looked a total mess in pre-season culminating in an embarassing hammering by Arsenal.

Yes THIS exactly!!

Just beeing fookin teased by the ads at this point

2 minutes ago, rocker_joker said:

We do have better overall players than most of the teams, but its seems that Potter is not capable to get his team selection and tactics right in any games.

Is the current team we have available genuinely better, though? I don't actually think so.

Firstly, I would say most of the teams above us have better attacks, so is it really surprising that they are above us?

Our defence is also incredibly old: Azpilicueta (finished), Silva and Koulibaly (looks very poor from what I have seen). It is easy to attack because it is slow and frail. 

I'm humming hymns now

 

 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

Jorginho’s lobbed passes make me want to drink bleach. 

The club deciding on making Jorginho the lynchpin of the midfielder is one of the biggest mistakes of the last decade. He's only good with Kante beside him (and Kovacic sometimes) How he's managed to survive while other people were ousted from the club is beyond me.

No doubt there will be the normal Potter out frothing at the mouth after that but, for me, tonight is not on Potter. Don't think he got much wrong. This one is on the players. Awful defending for the first, awful goalkeeping for the second. Stupidity by Felix for the red and yet another piss poor performance by Kovacic, Koulibaly, Mount, Chalobah, and Havertz. 

Then Jorginho and Ziyech came on and you knew it was playing with 8 men time.

Chukuwuemka has to get a decent run now and I think the criticism of Hall was over the top tonight. Yes he lost the ball which eventually resulted in the opener but I felt he, along with Felix, was the only player who was trying to create anything when we had 11 men. I'd stick with him ahead of Cucurella.

Really hope Zakaria has only suffered a tweak because he is head and shoulders ahead of Jorginho for the rest of the season. 

He needs to go, the red card isn’t his fault but his team selections and tactics are baffling clearly not cut out for this level, rip the bandage off now and get a real world class coach in and start again

No Spine, No Leader, No Quality, Writing On The Wall For Years, It's Who We Are Now, Gonna Take Years, I'll Be Along For The Rocky Ride

This season doesn't need saving, it needs an autopsy. 

1 minute ago, Pob said:

It feels like Moyes' reign at United. How can players have respect for a manager who has won less than them, and has a 'small club' mentality to approach and tactics?

Moyes was a much better manager than Potter both at united and at Everton were he achieved much more than Poteer on a smaller budget.

Potter feels more like Roy Hodgson at Liverpool to me a tier below Moyes

1 minute ago, Droyman said:

He also DIDN'T have nearly all of his first team out with injuries!! 

That's the thing. I didn't want Tuchel sacked, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. Tuchel was moaning  last season about a couple  injuries so not sure how he would have done. 

I don't think Potter has much option other than to turn on the players tonight. You can clearly see with a number of players, they are just not playing for him

5 minutes ago, rocker_joker said:

We do have better overall players than most of the teams, but its seems that Potter is not capable to get his team selection and tactics right in any games.

I always see people say this but is it really true? Other than James, Kante and Silva, most of our players would be benchwarmers on most of our rival's team. Our squad is just expensive it isn't quality.