6 hours ago, Remodez said:

They both have their issue with not making the right choice but Gittens is already better than Noni at everything else from what I've seen.

Better because he gets to play against Bundesliga defences. Same league that made Havertz and Sancho look world class.

That's generous ( giving him another year) I think he's not gonna make the grade I'm happy if he moves on and we try the next candidate.

Blue co's money who cares...

Pedro and or Gittens come on down.

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by OneTommyLangley

11 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Better because he gets to play against Bundesliga defences. Same league that made Havertz and Sancho look world class.

I was referring more to CL to be honest, I don't watch Bundesliga.

Looked very good v Real Madrid in particular although had a stinker v Barcelona but I guess that's preferable to having a stinker v Ipswich.

3 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

In the same world that Nketiah was sold for 30M.

That was a robbery.

Expensive, but I watched a video on YouTube while half asleep last night that explained why he's the PERFECT winger for Maresca's system, so I'm sold.

(TLDR: He stays wide, likes to take on 1-on-1s, and has a high-boredom threshold)

Elanga going for 55-60m, Gittens being bought for 52.5m. We should be getting minimum 60m for Madueke.

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Elanga going for 55-60m, Gittens being bought for 52.5m. We should be getting minimum 60m for Madueke.

When I had a business in Thailand 20 years ago, the sage advice was that whatever you thought it was going to cost you to set up, multiply it by four, and whatever you thought you'd make, divide it by four.

Sounds remarkably like our transfer policy LOL

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by Sexyfootball

I don’t think we should get sell Madueke. We need competition and players who are maturing.

Noni can be frustrating at times but I’m not sure we should even be selling him, and certainly not to Arsenal.

Arsenal wouldn’t sell or even loan a player to us unless he was completely useless to them.

Ideally I’d like to keep him and see how he responds to competition for places in our team.

I’m dead against selling players to Arsenal to help solve their problems.

1 hour ago, 2211 said:

Arsenal wouldn’t sell or even loan a player to us unless he was completely useless to them.

Not really the case. Players that came from Arsenal have always been very good to us.

Ashley Cole, Giroud, Fabregas

3 minutes ago, Deino said:

Not really the case. Players that came from Arsenal have always been very good to us.

Ashley Cole, Giroud, Fabregas

Genuinely one of the most one-sided transfer relationships in the League's history, up there with Liverpool and Southampton. Aubameyang is our one failure, meanwhile Eddie Nketiah and Lassana Diarra are the closest they came to 'success'

Fabregas came from Barcelona, not Arsenal. Also, they were hardly happy about selling us Ashley Cole.

I did love Gallas

On 03/07/2025 at 10:04, Remodez said:

They both have their issue with not making the right choice but Gittens is already better than Noni at everything else from what I've seen.

21yrs in 1mth; barely hit 11 contributions ( 8G + 3A) in his best season in Bundesliga, no way am I buying it that he is better than Noni. What scares me about his output is his xG is 3.6, we just hope and pray he didn’t have a “freakish” average season. If is really a 4G + 4A Bundesliga winger then we have been sold a lemon.

Edited July 4, 20251 yr by markpitts

3 hours ago, Deino said:

Not really the case. Players that came from Arsenal have always been very good to us.

Ashley Cole, Giroud, Fabregas

Ashley Cole was a swap deal involving Gallas, they literally wanted Gallas in return and reported us to the Premier League for tapping up, they sold Giroud because they bought Aubameyang who was striker approaching his peak and Fabragas came from Barcelona.

My point isn’t whether it’s worked out for us or not, my point is if we was to put in a bid for Saka etc… they would laugh at us.

I just don’t think we should sell players to them unless they’re past their prime, not players who haven’t reached their prime yet.

Edited July 4, 20251 yr by 2211

4 hours ago, Zeta said:

Fabregas came from Barcelona, not Arsenal. Also, they were hardly happy about selling us Ashley Cole.

We got the older and more injury prone version of Fabregas. They weren't happy with the way it went but they were happy enough getting Gallas in the deal and 5M

2 hours ago, 2211 said:

Ashley Cole was a swap deal involving Gallas, they literally wanted Gallas in return and reported us to the Premier League for tapping up, they sold Giroud because they bought Aubameyang who was striker approaching his peak and Fabragas came from Barcelona.

My point isn’t whether it’s worked out for us or not, my point is if we was to put in a bid for Saka etc… they would laugh at us.

I just don’t think we should sell players to them unless they’re past their prime, not players who haven’t reached their prime yet.

Why would they laugh? We sold plenty of players to rivals over the years and bought some from them, some of them in their prime.

Hughes, Veron, Mata, Matic, Cech, David Luiz, Jorginho etc.

The ones that laugh at transfers are fans. Nobody in the boardroom level really care about it. The really stingy one in all my years of watching football was the Modric saga but that's because it was the Spuds(who are a bunch of weirdos anyway)

Edited July 4, 20251 yr by Deino

21 minutes ago, Deino said:

Why would they laugh? We sold plenty of players to rivals over the years and bought some from them, some of them in their prime.

Hughes, Veron, Mata, Matic, Cech, David Luiz, Jorginho etc.

The ones that laugh at transfers are fans. Nobody in the boardroom level really care about it. The really stingy one in all my years of watching football was the Modric saga but that's because it was the Spuds(who are a bunch of weirdos anyway)

You honestly think we could make an enquiry about Saka, Saliba, Odeguaard and Arsenal would entertain it?

You’ve clearly got more faith than me but I think they’d slam the phone down or quote a price even Todd and the board wouldn’t be prepared to pay.

And Fergie said never he shouldn’t have sold Mark Hughes to Chelsea and Veron was so bad at Man Utd they were glad to get rid of him.

Edited July 4, 20251 yr by 2211

44 minutes ago, Deino said:

We got the older and more injury prone version of Fabregas. They weren't happy with the way it went but they were happy enough getting Gallas in the deal and 5M

Fabregas was good for us and Barcelona sold him to us not Arsenal and the Gallas deal proves my point in that they grassed us up and still had a big say in how Ashley Cole came to Chelsea.

Arsenal would make life hard for us if not impossible if we wanted one of their dynamic players.

Don't want any Arsenal players, other than perhaps Rice who grew up proper chels. All the rest are bottle jobs.

2 hours ago, Deino said:

We got the older and more injury prone version of Fabregas. They weren't happy with the way it went but they were happy enough getting Gallas in the deal and 5M

Fabregas was rarely injured for us or Barcelona. The game just became so much quicker than him so he had to evolve his game.

8 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I did love Gallas

That hurt me when he scored for them against us and they beat us 1-0. Not as much as Lamps scoring for City against us but both hurt..

16 hours ago, 2211 said:

I’m dead against selling players to Arsenal to help solve their problems.

This days you have to if you want to get significant fee.

3 hours ago, STATS said:

That hurt me when he scored for them against us and they beat us 1-0. Not as much as Lamps scoring for City against us but both hurt..

He and Lamps were my favorite players when I first started watching. In the minority where I pick him at LB over Cole in my all time back 4.

Edited July 5, 20251 yr by Sconnie Blue