As Chelsea fans it's a bit hard for us because of KDB and Salah, I don't think any club has been hit harder than that, letting go of two players who ended up becoming two of the greatest Premier League players we've ever seen.

I'm guilty of it aswell, I hate selling any player to a rival. But Zeta and others made a good point, can't keep holding onto everyone for this reason.

I did rate Noni, but he's had his chances and he's not delivered, if we can sell him for a good fee then so be it. I think what really pisses me off about it is that we are getting a bang average player in Gittens.. I would rather have just stuck with Noni than throwing 50 million down the drain.

2 hours ago, Victor90 said:

As Chelsea fans it's a bit hard for us because of KDB and Salah, I don't think any club has been hit harder than that, letting go of two players who ended up becoming two of the greatest Premier League players we've ever seen.

I'm guilty of it aswell, I hate selling any player to a rival. But Zeta and others made a good point, can't keep holding onto everyone for this reason.

I did rate Noni, but he's had his chances and he's not delivered, if we can sell him for a good fee then so be it. I think what really pisses me off about it is that we are getting a bang average player in Gittens.. I would rather have just stuck with Noni than throwing 50 million down the drain.

Agree with most of what you say, but think its too early to know much about Gittens. They said when fit he was a gamechanger, so willing to see how he settles, stays fit, and go from there.

7 hours ago, Victor90 said:

As Chelsea fans it's a bit hard for us because of KDB and Salah, I don't think any club has been hit harder than that, letting go of two players who ended up becoming two of the greatest Premier League players we've ever seen.

I'm guilty of it aswell, I hate selling any player to a rival. But Zeta and others made a good point, can't keep holding onto everyone for this reason.

I did rate Noni, but he's had his chances and he's not delivered, if we can sell him for a good fee then so be it. I think what really pisses me off about it is that we are getting a bang average player in Gittens.. I would rather have just stuck with Noni than throwing 50 million down the drain.

I don't think anyone has an issue with selling him or are under any impression that he'll go on to be a top 3 winger in the league.

I think the main causes for concern are we're upgrading a direct rival while arguably weakening ourselves (sideways step at best) for a net loss.

6 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Agree with most of what you say, but think its too early to know much about Gittens. They said when fit he was a gamechanger, so willing to see how he settles, stays fit, and go from there.

This in a sense. The BL is a different animal as we - and other PL clubs - know from costly experience. Timo, Sancho, etc, etc. It's a case of suck it and see. So to speak.

The discussion around Madueke is bizzare.

Some say Neto has higher ceilings. I just don't understand why you are talking about ceiling when talking about 25 year old winger with over 100 caps in pl. Neto is probably at his peak or already very close to it.

Should we sell Madueke? Honestly it is not important. This is blue co model and the only way we can generate real money is to sell either Jackson, Madueke n Palmer.

4 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

The discussion around Madueke is bizzare.

Some say Neto has higher ceilings. I just don't understand why you are talking about ceiling when talking about 25 year old winger with over 100 caps in pl. Neto is probably at his peak or already very close to it.

Should we sell Madueke? Honestly it is not important. This is blue co model and the only way we can generate real money is to sell either Jackson, Madueke n Palmer.

Selling Jackson & Madueke seems like a great idea.

If we sell Noni and buy Kudos I’d be happy. Then you would have Gittens and Estevau as the youngsters pushing established prem players Neto and Kudos with CP able to play anywhere.

Starting to look more balanced at least.

I'm not sure Noni has thought this through. For two seasons he has been a winger hampered but not having a proper centre-forward to play off, or play in.

And now he is leaving for a club who don't have a proper centre-forward to play off, or play in.

Strange decision.

1 hour ago, C3blue said:

If we sell Noni and buy Kudos I’d be happy. Then you would have Gittens and Estevau as the youngsters pushing established prem players Neto and Kudos with CP able to play anywhere.

Starting to look more balanced at least.

Swapping Madueke for Kudus would be a massive upgrade.

21 minutes ago, just said:

I'm not sure Noni has thought this through. For two seasons he has been a winger hampered but not having a proper centre-forward to play off, or play in.

And now he is leaving for a club who don't have a proper centre-forward to play off, or play in.

Strange decision.

Gyokeres is inbound at Arsenal

21 minutes ago, Hessleboink said:

Swapping Madueke for Kudus would be a massive upgrade.

More minutes for half the return. Kudus is barely an upgrade on George.

27 minutes ago, just said:

I'm not sure Noni has thought this through. For two seasons he has been a winger hampered but not having a proper centre-forward to play off, or play in.

And now he is leaving for a club who don't have a proper centre-forward to play off, or play in.

Strange decision.

I'm sure he cares more about potentially winning the league than increasing his stats.

He is "only" on £50K a week with us .. one of our lowest earners ... and no pay rise in the offing ... hence I think the move motivation is as much financial as anything else, especially as he has made some inroads with England internationally ...

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

More minutes for half the return. Kudus is barely an upgrade on George.

Obviously we disagree on Madueke, but Kudus would clearly be an upgrade on George at this moment in time.

If anything, wouldn't Madueke leaving mean Estevao gets more game time?

1 hour ago, Drogba1 said:

If anything, wouldn't Madueke leaving mean Estevao gets more game time?

If he's ready he will start in front of Madueke regardless.

A lot of factors in play here with the only logical outcome being Noni’s departure.

Arsenal will likely 3-4x his current wages, the competition for his spot at Chels is heating up and he seems the kind to be more entitled than willing to fight.

Never really grown attached to him, don’t think he’s half as good as he’s convinced he is. Happy to see a profit and him out the door.

With Neto's form and the arrival of Estevao and Pedro, it seems that we wouldn't miss him a great deal next season. He's one of our most sellable assets, and we do need to sell, so I feel like his departure is inevitable now. He's had his moments, but I'm pretty 'meh' about the whole thing.

Our version of Newcastle’s Saint-Maximin. Only beats players by kind of leaning in to them. Not a “kick and run” type of winger or “tricky” type of winger. Happy to get rid.

Rumours are it could be around £40m.

Too cheap for a young player with 5 years still left on his contract IMO.

Just now, 2211 said:

Rumours are it could be around £40m.

Too cheap for a young player with 5 years still left on his contract IMO.

Elanga just went for £55m.

Before the summer id have said if we got an offer £40m+ we should take it, but given what £55m gets you nowadays we'd be selling ourselves short getting less than that.

9 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Elanga just went for £55m.

Sets the minimum for Madueke, although you have to take into account the sell on Utd had for Elanga in that figure.

11 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Elanga just went for £55m.

Elanga is at least half a level above Noni.

2 minutes ago, dermott said:

Elanga is at least half a level above Noni.

Bit off topic and random but Noni is the term used by the females within my family to represent their lady part.

Apologies, not sure why that came into my head.

As you were, please continue.

Edited July 8, 20251 yr by WhiteWall