How come our club can buy so many players who in less than one season don't look good enough to play for us ?

KDH , Neto, Felix, Sancho for example? Or have I got it wrong ? I was actually happy with some signings, something is drastically wrong with our recruitment when we are looking to offload players probably at a loss within such a short period of time.. A settled team seems to be beyond us, the team selection for the Brentford game was just baffling for me. AND for our players too I reckon.

13 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

How come our club can buy so many players who in less than one season don't look good enough to play for us ?

KDH , Neto, Felix, Sancho for example? Or have I got it wrong ? I was actually happy with some signings, something is drastically wrong with our recruitment when we are looking to offload players probably at a loss within such a short period of time.. A settled team seems to be beyond us, the team selection for the Brentford game was just baffling for me. AND for our players too I reckon.

I'm half praying for a transfer ban after this summer. Let the squad settle after we sign probably Delap and bring players back from loan.

We should mainly be focusing on outgoing transfers now.

14 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

How come our club can buy so many players who in less than one season don't look good enough to play for us ?

KDH , Neto, Felix, Sancho for example? Or have I got it wrong ? I was actually happy with some signings, something is drastically wrong with our recruitment when we are looking to offload players probably at a loss within such a short period of time.. A settled team seems to be beyond us, the team selection for the Brentford game was just baffling for me. AND for our players too I reckon.

Simple really, they're not good enough.

KDH, never looked good at Premier League level.

Neto, decent at Wolves, but because he was playing for Wolves, he looked better than he really was. I actually think his reputation was built up because of the odd game here and there where he looked like a potential world class footballer, but his overally performances weren't that much better than what we have seen with us.

Felix, always had issues settling for some reason. Seems to lack focus. I would have been fine had he stayed as a squad player, but we overpaid for him.

Sancho, awful at United, struggles with Premier League football. Should never have bothered, even with a loan. I would rather pay more for a player that actually offers something than get a player for cheap that does nothing.

The players we're signing just aren't good enough.

57 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Simple really, they're not good enough.

KDH, never looked good at Premier League level.

Neto, decent at Wolves, but because he was playing for Wolves, he looked better than he really was. I actually think his reputation was built up because of the odd game here and there where he looked like a potential world class footballer, but his overally performances weren't that much better than what we have seen with us.

Felix, always had issues settling for some reason. Seems to lack focus. I would have been fine had he stayed as a squad player, but we overpaid for him.

Sancho, awful at United, struggles with Premier League football. Should never have bothered, even with a loan. I would rather pay more for a player that actually offers something than get a player for cheap that does nothing.

The players we're signing just aren't good enough.

Completely agree with you. The players (and coaches) we're signing are mostly of average quality, now, why is this? Are the SDs this bad at their job? Is this the level of the players that are willing to accept the limitations of the contracts offered by the board? Or do they genuinely think that these players are good and going to take us back to the top and win again silverware?

Could he be more useful as a 10 than a wide player?

Has the vision and ability to make a pass. 2 footed, but lacks pace and does not want to shoot.

Maybe breaths new life in to both him and Cole if they switch roles?

On 08/04/2025 at 00:52, The Rising Sun said:

KDH , Neto, Felix, Sancho for example? Or have I got it wrong ?

Because these player doesn't really move the needle for our team. Do we need winger? Yes but we don't need good winger, we need great winger. Do we need a 10 ( Felix) ? We have Nkunku n Palmer.

32 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Because these player doesn't really move the needle for our team. Do we need winger? Yes but we don't need good winger, we need great winger. Do we need a 10 ( Felix) ? We have Nkunku n Palmer.

That is the key but I reckon we are going to be hampered by our strict wage structure. According to the media we are interested in 19yr old Jesus Rodriquez at Betis who has played 14 top flight league games. I just can’t shake this feeling that they will go back in for Granacho in the summer at a ridiculous fee, and give Utd the pure profit they need to sign Cunha from Wolves.

On 08/04/2025 at 08:04, Scott Harris said:

Simple really, they're not good enough.

KDH, never looked good at Premier League level.

Neto, decent at Wolves, but because he was playing for Wolves, he looked better than he really was. I actually think his reputation was built up because of the odd game here and there where he looked like a potential world class footballer, but his overally performances weren't that much better than what we have seen with us.

Felix, always had issues settling for some reason. Seems to lack focus. I would have been fine had he stayed as a squad player, but we overpaid for him.

Sancho, awful at United, struggles with Premier League football. Should never have bothered, even with a loan. I would rather pay more for a player that actually offers something than get a player for cheap that does nothing.

The players we're signing just aren't good enough.

Hi Scott, I agree. The point I was trying to make though, is how come we bring in so many players that within less than a season we realise that they are not suitable or good enough ?

Our recruitment process is chaotic and not helpful for the stability of the team with so many players coming and leaving every season. . Our constant recruitment and then trying to get rid of players we've brought in is unprofessional to say the least.

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15 hours ago, ducavis said:

That is the key but I reckon we are going to be hampered by our strict wage structure. According to the media we are interested in 19yr old Jesus Rodriquez at Betis who has played 14 top flight league games. I just can’t shake this feeling that they will go back in for Granacho in the summer at a ridiculous fee, and give Utd the pure profit they need to sign Cunha from Wolves.

Garnacho is fine, but do we need him? Nope.

The way we do dealing feel like we focus more on financial side rather than the footballing side.

cracking goal - more of that please

Amazing what he can do when he's told he'll have to go back to Man Utd in the summer if he doesn't buck his ideas up.

People are way too harsh on this kid, if anything I think he's having a good season when you put it into perspective. He has to play under this turgid system with an absolute crap manager and no striker. Madueke and Neto have both completely fallen off, even Palmer isn't doing well at the moment.

We would be fools to not buy him and give him another chance under someone who could even get 50% out of him.

Try for another loan in the summer imo

One good goal changes nothing.

Did more than Neto and Noni in less mins. In another world with an effective winger on the other side he would be a great balance on the left with his ball retention in tight spaces and ability to pick passes out.

46 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Did more than Neto and Noni in less mins. In another world with an effective winger on the other side he would be a great balance on the left with his ball retention in tight spaces and ability to pick passes out.

Not buying this; and it’s just one game and 1 league goal, and 1 contribution since Jan. I don’t care what he does till the end of the season, will send him back to Utd tomorrow.

Buying him is just helping get Utd out of a hole, he isn’t the winger that makes us competitive in the long run.

Good on him finally taking a punt today, and got us the point. But 1 goal after 30 games doesn't change much. Unless he really has a strong finish in the final phase of the season, dont see the point of keeping him, apart from some potentially smart money reasons.

6 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Not buying this; and it’s just one game and 1 league goal, and 1 contribution since Jan. I don’t care what he does till the end of the season, will send him back to Utd tomorrow.

Buying him is just helping get Utd out of a hole, he isn’t the winger that makes us competitive in the long run.

Steady on I didn’t say we should buy him, just pointing out he was better than others in this game.

I don't understand the thought process of not buying him on here, can someone please make me understand this?

What other player are you going to get for 25 million at his age and experience? We are not Chelsea of old, we don't get the cream of the crop anymore. Sancho has many years to give, is still a good/decent player, can still potentially get better, and you want to turn your nose up at him?

I don't think we are going to get a better deal on any other player in the market. Every top European prospect has an inflated price tag and comes with a big risk, Sancho is a cheap option, albeit might have some big wages which could be an argument not to buy, but even if you don't think he's an elite player he's undoubtedly good enough for rotation no?

All I ask is to anyone who doesn't want to buy him, realistically what and who do you expect us to get then? We can maybe go out and take a risk on someone else while spending 4x the price tag, or we can give Jadon another chance with a better manager that doesn't want to play sh*t football. He's combined in top assists with Palmer and has 3 goals (not dreadful), you would think he's Marko Marin the way some people go on.

I'm not really interested in getting good deals, I'm interested in getting players that are going to make a difference, be more involved, score goals, get assists, contribute heavily to the points we pick up. Sancho could be available for free, and I still wouldn't be particularly interested in us signing him because of how little he contributes. If we had somebody ahead of him that did provide this, then sure, he would be a good backup, but we don't. Sancho has become a regular starter and we don't get what we should expect from a regular starter.

11 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

I don't understand the thought process of not buying him on here, can someone please make me understand this?

What other player are you going to get for 25 million at his age and experience? We are not Chelsea of old, we don't get the cream of the crop anymore. Sancho has many years to give, is still a good/decent player, can still potentially get better, and you want to turn your nose up at him?

I don't think we are going to get a better deal on any other player in the market. Every top European prospect has an inflated price tag and comes with a big risk, Sancho is a cheap option, albeit might have some big wages which could be an argument not to buy, but even if you don't think he's an elite player he's undoubtedly good enough for rotation no?

All I ask is to anyone who doesn't want to buy him, realistically what and who do you expect us to get then? We can maybe go out and take a risk on someone else while spending 4x the price tag, or we can give Jadon another chance with a better manager that doesn't want to play sh*t football. He's combined in top assists with Palmer and has 3 goals (not dreadful), you would think he's Marko Marin the way some people go on.

Spot on there @Victor90 - he's not great every game but then again who is with a w**ker like Maresca running the show?

Just now, Scott Harris said:

I'm not really interested in getting good deals, I'm interested in getting players that are going to make a difference, be more involved, score goals, get assists, contribute heavily to the points we pick up. Sancho could be available for free, and I still wouldn't be particularly interested in us signing him because of how little he contributes. If we had somebody ahead of him that did provide this, then sure, he would be a good backup, but we don't. Sancho has become a regular starter and we don't get what we should expect from a regular starter.

We don't get what we expect from any of our starters, not even Palmer anymore, surely that should tell you something?

If we're judging the squad by its merits this season, then we need to replace the whole attack. That's not feasible to do.

Mudryk needs to go, he's let us down time and time again on and off the pitch. Madueke might be sold, after that what wingers do we have? Sancho for 25 million is a steal for us at the moment. We have to be realistic here, we aren't going to get the top elite prospects in Europe, or even the top elite players. There are players overseas who would rather play for Villa than Chelsea at the moment. Hard pill to swallow but we have to swallow it nonetheless, thank the board for that who have practically erased the near 20 years of Roman Abramovich success.

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Just now, Victor90 said:

We don't get what we expect from any of our starters, not even Palmer anymore, surely that should tell you something?

If we're judging the squad by it's merits on this season, then we need to replace the whole attack. That's not feasible to do.

Mudryk needs to go, he's let us down time and time again on and off the pitch. Madueke might be sold, after that what wingers do we have? Sancho for 25 million is a steal for us at the moment. We have to be realistic here, we aren't going to get the top elite prospects in Europe, or even the top elite players. There are players overseas that would rather play for Villa than Chelsea at the moment. Hard pill to swallow but we have to swallow it nonetheless, thank the board for that who have practically erased the near 20 years of Roman Abramovich success.

But we have never once had that from Sancho, even when we were playing well. He had a good 2 or 3 games when he first arrived, but that happens often with new players. He couldn't keep it up though and quickly became the same Sancho that played for United. I don't even think a new manager will get something out of him.

I still feel we can do better than Sancho, even if we can't attract the top names anymore. There has to be somebody out there that can contribute more than he does.

We are accepting inconsistency

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Give him a full back that over laps and we'd be cooking. Blame the manager and blame Cucurella.