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1 hour ago, strider6004 said:

US private equity company was due to buy Boots the high street retail chemist. Still interested yet the financial environment is scaring them, interest rates are moving and there is an inverse relationship between equities and interest rates.

Not necessarily.  There is an inverse relation between interest rates and bond rates. Equities are more complex and equities can rise in the early part of the rising interest rate cycle because the economy is still expanding. Inflation will also eat away debt and cash. That is not where we are in this cycle but this interesting topic really doesn't have anything at all  to do with who Chelsea is going to buy and sell. If I wanted to talk about my day job here is not where I would be.

2 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Not necessarily.  There is an inverse relation between interest rates and bond rates. Equities are more complex and equities can rise in the early part of the rising interest rate cycle because the economy is still expanding. Inflation will also eat away debt and cash. That is not where we are in this cycle but this interesting topic really doesn't have anything at all  to do with who Chelsea is going to buy and sell. If I wanted to talk about my day job here is not where I would be.

Agree there is a direct correlation between interest rates and bond rates.

Equities can be a hedge against inflation if you know which ones to invest in. Normally if savings rate rise equities will seem less appealing.

I'm wondering if the US company the Dodgers prospected revenue fortunes will have a knock-on effect at Chelsea. It should not it in normal times.

The Russia-Ukraine business and sanctions is threatening to break globalism, Imran Khan has been impeached over wanting to maintain trade links with Russia even though India continues to trade with them. EU bond margins widening between 'PIGs' in the EU and Northern economies which means the PIGs may not be able to raise through Bond issues, 8% is what the markets think is where investors will not want to buy ''PIGs' bonds due to default worries.

 

 

15 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

Agree there is a direct correlation between interest rates and bond rates.

Equities can be a hedge against inflation if you know which ones to invest in. Normally if savings rate rise equities will seem less appealing.

I'm wondering if the US company the Dodgers prospected revenue fortunes will have a knock-on effect at Chelsea. It should not it in normal times.

The Russia-Ukraine business and sanctions is threatening to break globalism, Imran Khan has been impeached over wanting to maintain trade links with Russia even though India continues to trade with them. EU bond margins widening between 'PIGs' in the EU and Northern economies which means the PIGs may not be able to raise through Bond issues, 8% is what the markets think is where investors will not want to buy ''PIGs' bonds due to default worries.

 

 

Equities unlike bonds have uncertain cash flows yes the discount rate rises but in early stage cash flow expectations can rise faster than the discount rate. I’ll say no more about equity valuation here. 

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Arsenal are close to agreeing a deal between 55mill and 60mill for Raphinia and have agreed a 45mill deal for Gabriel Jesus.

I still think our first choice winger is Dembele. Barca hope to keep him, but on reduced wages. Not sure that will work out for them. I suspect we will know in the next week as his contract is officially over end of June.

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Arsenal are close to agreeing a deal between 55mill and 60mill for Raphinia and have agreed a 45mill deal for Gabriel Jesus.

They spend a lot of money arsenal considering they’ve not been in the champs league for donkeys years

7 hours ago, ozboy said:

Equities unlike bonds have uncertain cash flows yes the discount rate rises but in early stage cash flow expectations can rise faster than the discount rate. I’ll say no more about equity valuation her

 

7 hours ago, ozboy said:

Equities unlike bonds have uncertain cash flows yes the discount rate rises but in early stage cash flow expectations can rise faster than the discount rate. I’ll say no more about equity valuation here. 

 The programme should include a couple of pages of high finance next season.

Starting with " short selling " 

1 hour ago, Adamrb said:

They spend a lot of money arsenal considering they’ve not been in the champs league for donkeys years

I had to look that up mate..

They've spent more than us over the last ten years.!! Dunno if that includes RL last year , but still still an eye opener !

1 minute ago, dansubrosa said:

Why would we go for him? Apart from commercial reasons he’s 37 and his wages would be ridiculous.

Its not the worst move but it’s not the best either.

Just shows the press have no idea who we are interested in and are making stuff up. De Ligt at 100mill, Ronaldo lmao why don't they just bring back the Hulk rumours.

6 hours ago, wizardous said:

Doesn't seem likely to me but this would've been our best piece of business in years.

No it wouldn't. Just because he is one of the best players of all time, it doesn't mean we should sign him. He scored a decent amount of goals last season, but he IS on the decline. He cannot do the hard work anymore and off the ball it would be like playing with 10 men.

14 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

No it wouldn't. Just because he is one of the best players of all time, it doesn't mean we should sign him. He scored a decent amount of goals last season, but he IS on the decline. He cannot do the hard work anymore and off the ball it would be like playing with 10 men.

I don't agree at all. Our main problem in the past two seasons was finishing. Ronaldo is still capable of big things and he guarantees goals. Never doubt him.

1 hour ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Double Dutch?

Denzel Dumfries to Chelsea?  With DeLight to follow.

Maybe we should poach Frenkie de Jong as well?

And Antony from A**x?

Get all the Dutch blokes at Chelsea.

Antony is Brazilian :smile: But indeed rumoured to leave Cleaning Solution FC this summer, United a front runner because of the Ten Hag connection.

4 hours ago, wizardous said:

I don't agree at all. Our main problem in the past two seasons was finishing. Ronaldo is still capable of big things and he guarantees goals. Never doubt him.

And creating clear cut chances and maintaining our momentum for more than half a season. How is Ronaldo going to score goals if we can't create chances for him? it got so bad by the end of the season that all teams had to do was sit back agaisnt us and we would waste 30 minutes knocking the ball around, doing nothing and hoping an ambitious Rudiger long range shot would fly into the back of the net. Add somebody like Ronaldo to our team and he will bitch and whine like he does every game at United because things aren't going his way. The modern game also requires players to push from the front, Ronaldo can't do that job anymore.

7 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

And creating clear cut chances and maintaining our momentum for more than half a season. How is Ronaldo going to score goals if we can't create chances for him? it got so bad by the end of the season that all teams had to do was sit back agaisnt us and we would waste 30 minutes knocking the ball around, doing nothing and hoping an ambitious Rudiger long range shot would fly into the back of the net. Add somebody like Ronaldo to our team and he will bitch and whine like he does every game at United because things aren't going his way. The modern game also requires players to push from the front, Ronaldo can't do that job anymore.

Creating chances is an issue but realistically it only occures from time to time. Second part of the season was an anomaly as we slumped into a crisis caused by different factors. In big games we usually don't have this problem but of course that is purely because of the way opponent is set up. However finishing is the major problem for us that has to be fixed somehow if we want to be competitive. If it wasn't for our poor finishing, we would've won both domestic cups this season. Just remember how frustrating was the League Cup final. Also if we had someone who could've converted chances we would've got past Real Madrid for sure.

Ronaldo is a big game player. His presence in those games is unbelievable. I'm pretty certain that is exactly what we need, someone who can step up in those games and lead the team by example when it's do or die. I don't think the transfer is going to happen but if there is a slightest chance I would push for it...

4 hours ago, wizardous said:

Creating chances is an issue but realistically it only occures from time to time. Second part of the season was an anomaly as we slumped into a crisis caused by different factors. In big games we usually don't have this problem but of course that is purely because of the way opponent is set up. However finishing is the major problem for us that has to be fixed somehow if we want to be competitive. If it wasn't for our poor finishing, we would've won both domestic cups this season. Just remember how frustrating was the League Cup final. Also if we had someone who could've converted chances we would've got past Real Madrid for sure.

Ronaldo is a big game player. His presence in those games is unbelievable. I'm pretty certain that is exactly what we need, someone who can step up in those games and lead the team by example when it's do or die. I don't think the transfer is going to happen but if there is a slightest chance I would push for it...

Ole big game record was actually very good till last year. 

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