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Torres - The "Groundhog Day" Thread

Torres: stay or go? 226 members have voted

  1. 1. Torres: stay or go?

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I thought that this article (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/oct/28/chelsea-fernando-torres-jose-mourinho?) was a great piece of work. No cliché's about "is he back", more of an analysis of Torres' "new" role as an enforcer, a guard dog, a decoy and a creator for our "fragile little trio" behind the striker (a role that was arguably meant for Rooney).

 

He's not the old Torres with an acceleration beyond belief on a white guy (but still quick *enough*), but his performances against Speds, (Swindon), partially Schalke and yesterday was as good and dominant as you'll get them from a lone striker up front in my opinion. Hopefully he can keep it up!

Edited by Ozztheboss

On sky after the game Niall Quinn when asked how would we know if Torres was back to his best he stated " when at his best at Liverpool he scored 2 or 3 goals every game " lol what a clown.!

 

In fairness to Quinn, Torres was pretty good during that season a few years back when he scored 94 Premier League goals.

 

With regards to yesterday, Torres was a bit of a w**ker, for almost 90 minutes.  I remember when we played against Liverplod a few years back he would spend 90 minutes winding Terry up and having off the ball battles with CBs on a regular basis - he used to piss me off to no end.  I think yesterday that must have been exactally how City fans were feeling - and that makes me very happy.

 

Not that I think he's been useless since coming to Chelsea, but yesterday's game was by far his most effective all round performance for us.  I loved seeing him face a bit of adversity, and bounce straight back, and used any negative that happened yesterday to drive him on.  I know many times people have speculated on occassion whether he has come back, and whilst I don't think we'll see the same type of Torres we did before the transfer, there is the potential for a new type of Torres to flourish, with the support of the manager/team and with this new role which he seems to be relishing.

 

I do regret not clicking the 'bet' button on Thursday when I was going to have a few quid on him at top league scorer at 125/1.  It is early days yet, however that performance has been built to over the course of the season to date - and long may the ascendancy continue.

Edited by Zola's Love Child

We are never getting back the Fernando Torres of Liverpool. We have the Fernando Torres of Chelsea.

If he keeps playing like he is playing now. And can reinvent his career from here on out, Liverpool days would only be a feint memory.

Let's hope his legacy that he leaves will be painted in blue.

£35M for Carroll. That is f**king shocking. The more I think about it the more I think what a f**king mess that was. 

Complete panic buy, mate. He was playing really well for Newcastle and scoring goals and Torres had, to be fair, left Liverpool in the lurch with not much time left in the window.

We are never getting back the Fernando Torres of Liverpool. We have the Fernando Torres of Chelsea.

If he keeps playing like he is playing now. And can reinvent his career from here on out, Liverpool days would only be a feint memory.

Let's hope his legacy that he leaves will be painted in blue.

I think Torres will have fond memories of all the clubs he played for. I don't pretend to think that he doesn't have good memories of his time at Atletico and Liverpool, despite the fact he never won anything there. He certainly made his mark at both clubs, and fair play to him.

 

It's what he does at THIS club for us now, that matters though. Once his career is over he will be able to look back at the good times with all three clubs, I suppose, and be thankful he finally managed to fulfill his trophy dream with us. :smile:

f**k me, that must have been some season.

I think he meant to say 34. Although I think that was in all competitions in his first season for LIverpool, not just the league. Could be wrong though.

We are never getting back the Fernando Torres of Liverpool. We have the Fernando Torres of Chelsea.

If he keeps playing like he is playing now. And can reinvent his career from here on out, Liverpool days would only be a feint memory.

Let's hope his legacy that he leaves will be painted in blue.

 

The Fernando Torres of Liverpool didn't win anything. The Fernando Torres of Chelsea already has three shiny cups on his CV, and but for a cruel game of penalty area pinball, would have had a fourth at the start of the season. :)

In the past 2 years, there were so many games he couldn't even get a sniff of a good shot, now he seems to get into the position to shoot quite regularly. Who cares if he misses a few, as long as he keeps get into the position, he will surely put away more chances.

Agree. No need to complicate it, more shots = more goals and that has been the difference between this Torres and the one just a few weeks ago.

The shot against the crossbar summed it up. A few weeka earlier and that would be a wasteful cross or pass. He was getting into proper centre forward positions and the whole team benefited.

So sick of this "will never be the center forward he was at liverpool" sh*t.

The striker he was at Liverpool had zero club medals, the striker he was at Liverpool failed to get CL football the season before he left.

Jfh used to score a sh*t load of goals and any one watching him on TV would go crazy about him but he was so flawed and to watch him live could be like pulling teeth.

i only care what he does in a blue shirt and medals he wins playing for us..

I think he meant to say 34. Although I think that was in all competitions in his first season for LIverpool, not just the league. Could be wrong though.

I thought it was a piss take of Quinn's "2 or 3 goals a game" comment...

So sick of this "will never be the center forward he was at liverpool" sh*t.

The striker he was at Liverpool had zero club medals, the striker he was at Liverpool failed to get CL football the season before he left.

Jfh used to score a sh*t load of goals and any one watching him on TV would go crazy about him but he was so flawed and to watch him live could be like pulling teeth.

i only care what he does in a blue shirt and medals he wins playing for us..

 

I'm not too sure what you're alluding to here. He was absolutely electric and near-unstoppable at times in his Liverpool days but it's safe to say he hasn't replicated anywhere near that sort of form while playing for Chelsea. His game vs City was very promising though, best we can hope for is that he keeps up that level of aggression and enthusiasm.

Edited by Teritus

So many of the goals he scored at Liverpool were because of Gerrard. Gerrard's ability to cross the ball, play it over the shoulder of defenders, as well his defence splitting passes to a sharper, faster Torres was the reason so many of his goals were scored in quick succession.

We don't play that way. Torres has had to reinvent himself and adapt to the way we play, which is completely different. It's taken him a long time, but he has done it finally.

He has now found his feet and the future is bright. He might not be a prolific goal scorer again for us, but this is the best we have seen him and he can only build on this.

Its worth getting excited about.

Edited by Zola

Say what you want about the sitter he missed, but him even getting into that position is better than what we've seen from him in a long while

 

The fact he is attacking the box and not drifting to the flanks is an improvement. 

Torres vs Man City video, HD

 

http://vimeo.com/77971380

 

was a good watch thanks for that.

 

Have to say i have always supported fernando. purely because he wears the chelsea blue and every little glimpse of class he showed in the past was enough to keep me believing.

 

there was a period last year when i thought he was all over however. but the last 6 months he has been getting better and better and if he carries on like the performance against tottenham and man city then quite simply that is fernando torres at his best.

 

He has to keep this up through out the entire season however. Good luck to man.

 

what a difference it makes to the chelsea team having a forward on form, its been a while !

Say what you want about the sitter he missed, but him even getting into that position is better than what we've seen from him in a long while

 

He thought he was offside, and its true, even though the linesman didnt raise the flag. There wouldve been sh*tstorm had he finished that so im somewhat glad he didnt.

 

And ive seen elite strikers countless times waste a chance with lacklustre efforts thinking theyve strayed offside.

He thought he was offside, and its true, even though the linesman didnt raise the flag. There wouldve been sh*tstorm had he finished that so im somewhat glad he didnt.

 

And ive seen elite strikers countless times waste a chance with lacklustre efforts thinking theyve strayed offside.

 

 

He picked the selfish option- a good, good sign. 

A few weeks ago it would probably be Torres crossing that ball in for Ramires!!

I'm not too sure what you're alluding to here. He was absolutely electric and near-unstoppable at times in his Liverpool days but it's safe to say he hasn't replicated anywhere near that sort of form while playing for Chelsea. His game vs City was very promising though, best we can hope for is that he keeps up that level of aggression and enthusiasm.

I think it was the polite way of telling everyone to Shut the f**k up about what Torres done at Dipperpool. Hes a Chelsea player now and no one cares how great he was when he was a red northener.

Agreed. I'd hazard a guess that he's a Chelsea fan too, by the way it reads.

 

I think you'd be very wrong about that.  He does features and comments for the Guardian and is a bit of a sarcie bar steward.  He is on the Football Weekly Pod from time to time.  I don't think I'd mention him in the same breath as Martin Samuel in terms of quality journalism!

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