Jeez hazard bashers are out in force

Hardly bashing pointing out he's not been quite at it for a good few games now.

That's the problem on here, you can't say a players not playing to his best without some ridiculous comments like you are a Hazard basher'

So saying he's been off form for a while is bashing? Also please stop with the Messi comparison. He's no where near messi level and probably never will be. He doesn't have to be 10/10 every game but you expect at least some effort and he's not even doing that. 

Edited January 23, 20179 yr by Ivanov87

1 hour ago, bluedave said:

For f**ks sake. As if Messi and Ronaldo never have quiet games. Ronaldo is also the vainest and most irritating c**t in world football, give me Hazard any day of the week.

I would rather have James Milner than hazard or Ronaldo. Great attitude and gives 100 every game. Actually f**k Milner, I would rather have Darren fletcher. Now there's a man without ego. 

29 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

Hardly bashing pointing out he's not been quite at it for a good few games now.

That's the problem on here, you can't say a players not playing to his best without some ridiculous comments like you are a Hazard basher'

Or get labeled as having a moan?

1 hour ago, bluedave said:

For f**ks sake. As if Messi and Ronaldo never have quiet games. Ronaldo is also the vainest and most irritating c**t in world football, give me Hazard any day of the week.

Yeah but that c*** drags his team alone. He goes there and score 3-4 goals when its need it. Not to mention he simply destroy such "lower" table teams like Hull. When Hazard will start scoring 2-3-4-5 goals against such teams? Not to mention Hazard was never and probably never be so consistent like Ronaldo or Messi. Not even close. When Hazard is going to drags us, like Ronaldo did with his teams ? He make them won trophy, when Hazard is going to do the same ?

Hazard is doing 1-2 good games then go for hiding for the next 3-4 .... When he is going to make a big game, but really a big game vs big team ? His form is going from good to bad in between matches. He is doing good match and you expect him to make a step in the game game, but he make 2 step down .... He is so inconsistent. Im tired of his width passes, he took the ball in perfect position to go dribble and shoot, but he just turn his back and pass the ball to side or trying to do 1-2 and get in the net with the ball .....

Hazard is 1 of my favorite player, but when you comment about someone you should forget your bias. He is done nothing in terms of improvements, since he came to our club. Absolutely zero.

So pls don`t compare him with world class player like Ronaldo or Messi, even when Ronaldo is almost 32 years old ....

Hazard is in perfect age, that should be his peak, but unfortunately for us its not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think anyone is actually comparing him to Messi/Ronaldo level. But there is no reason he shouldn't be able to perform at the same level as Alexis Sanchez for example and he hasn't done that for almost  two seasons now.

52 minutes ago, brakeit said:

Yeah but that c*** drags his team alone. He goes there and score 3-4 goals when its need it. Not to mention he simply destroy such "lower" table teams like Hull. When Hazard will start scoring 2-3-4-5 goals against such teams? Not to mention Hazard was never and probably never be so consistent like Ronaldo or Messi. Not even close. When Hazard is going to drags us, like Ronaldo did with his teams ? He make them won trophy, when Hazard is going to do the same ?

Hazard is doing 1-2 good games then go for hiding for the next 3-4 .... When he is going to make a big game, but really a big game vs big team ? His form is going from good to bad in between matches. He is doing good match and you expect him to make a step in the game game, but he make 2 step down .... He is so inconsistent. Im tired of his width passes, he took the ball in perfect position to go dribble and shoot, but he just turn his back and pass the ball to side or trying to do 1-2 and get in the net with the ball .....

Hazard is 1 of my favorite player, but when you comment about someone you should forget your bias. He is done nothing in terms of improvements, since he came to our club. Absolutely zero.

So pls don`t compare him with world class player like Ronaldo or Messi, even when Ronaldo is almost 32 years old ....

Hazard is in perfect age, that should be his peak, but unfortunately for us its not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stick Hazard in the Madrid team with no defensive duties, the chance to spend the game on the last man, playing friendlies for 20+ games a season and let him take all penalties and free kicks and he'll start hitting 50 goals a year. Ronaldo rarely drags his team to anything, Portugal won the Euro's whilst he was invisible for most of the tournament. 

5 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Stick Hazard in the Madrid team with no defensive duties, the chance to spend the game on the last man, playing friendlies for 20+ games a season and let him take all penalties and free kicks and he'll start hitting 50 goals a year. Ronaldo rarely drags his team to anything, Portugal won the Euro's whilst he was invisible for most of the tournament. 

That's simply not true.

Ronaldo has won plenty of games for Madrid and plenty of big games at that. You don't score 50 plus goal a season by never 'dragging' your team out of a situation once and a while.

He also finished second top goal scorer at the Euros with a few others... while being 3rd on the assists ( 3 goals and 3 assists). Without those Portugal wouldn't have won it.

Hazard doesn't have the lethal instinct or the drive to get in the box enough to be scoring those sort of numbers, he never has.

 

Edited January 23, 20179 yr by Chelsbear

Eden is getting hammered on the pitch with little protection, players just run into him and knock him off the ball, the ball is never won cleanly off him, the refs seem to think that it's ok. He would definitely do better in Spain, the officials would give him more free kicks, and opposition players would think twice about just running into him. I don't think we as a club protect him as much as we should, our captain should be constantly talking to the ref every time Hazard gets fouled.

 

There's been talk for years of him going to Real Madrid, but I don't think he really has the ambition to go there. He seems to be happy just playing well most of the time, getting a few goals, getting a few assists. YOu go to Real if you want to be one of the best and really test yourself, like Ronaldo or Bale. Don't think he's got that ambition in him. Which may be a benefit to us, as he might stay with us longer.

2 hours ago, Chelsbear said:

Hardly bashing pointing out he's not been quite at it for a good few games now.

That's the problem on here, you can't say a players not playing to his best without some ridiculous comments like you are a Hazard basher'

Thank you, also I brought up the fact that I think he isn't going to be an elite player. I never actually said compared him to Messi and Ronaldo either.

Damn right mate and it's pure bollocks. Getting f**king boring on this place people posting absolute drivel and twisting what people are saying. 

If you really getting worked up with what people write on the forum, do an Alt+F4, it's good for your health.

47 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Stick Hazard in the Madrid team with no defensive duties, the chance to spend the game on the last man, playing friendlies for 20+ games a season and let him take all penalties and free kicks and he'll start hitting 50 goals a year. Ronaldo rarely drags his team to anything, Portugal won the Euro's whilst he was invisible for most of the tournament. 

I thought one of the reasons Hazard was doing well earlier this season was because Conte freed him from defensive duties? Now suddenly he's back doing that again? 

41 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Stick Hazard in the Madrid team with no defensive duties, the chance to spend the game on the last man, playing friendlies for 20+ games a season and let him take all penalties and free kicks and he'll start hitting 50 goals a year. Ronaldo rarely drags his team to anything, Portugal won the Euro's whilst he was invisible for most of the tournament. 

Thats simply not true. And you forget the part that Ronaldo play in England and score twice as more goal then Hazard and even have more assist then him.

230 matches for Hazard = 64 goals and 59 assist

291 matches for Ronaldo = 118 goals and 62 assist

And you have to take in consideration that Ronaldo come to United when he was 18-19 years old. He leave it at his peak when he was 23-24 years old. Its not even a fair comparison, and still he is better.

Hazard is already 25 years old and so far did not come even close to scoring as much as Ronaldo score in United, forget about Ronaldo peak at Real Madrid ... Forget also about the impact the 2 have make in the games.

Ronaldo have a season in United with 42 goals, Hazard can`t even score so much goals for 2 season, hes best is 18 goals ....

For 5 season with United Ronaldo won Champions league, 3 time PL, Hazard so far have 1 PL(second is coming) ....

Of course you need the teammates and the club, but you just can`t compare them.

Ronaldo is on another level. So far Hazard show he can`t be consistent for long periods, something Ronaldo prove it many, many times ...

And forget the dream Hazard will score so many goals in Spain. We see how good Bale was in England and he can`t even come close to Ronaldo in Real in terms of scoring goal or be such imporant player as Ronaldo was. Maybe in the future he will be, cause Ronaldo in 1 month will be 32 years old ....

As i said before when Ronaldo start dribble between defenders, hes thoughts its to score goals. When Hazard doing it, he try to get rid of the ball, its like he is scaring of dribble and goes to shooting. Hazard has incredible dribbling, but at low pace, he can`t run at full speed and dribble past opponent, he can`t do it like Messi or Ronaldo. I hate when Hazard start dribbling between defenders and he need to shoot, but he decide to go for 1-2 and all goes wrong or decide to turn back and pass the ball to the width ... Ronaldo and Messi take the ball on speed and they have space, and they are real threat. They are going for goals, nothing else. Unlike Hazard.

Sorry but Hazard is no near peak Ronaldo, who is 1 of the best in the air, great at free kicks, insane shoots, speed, dribbling, instinct infront of goals, positioning, technical ability and so on.  Hazard is better with the dribbling, but at low pace.

That`s the unbiased reallity.

And i don`t see how Hazard is going to score more then 20 goals in Real Madrid .... Ronaldo score many goals from penalty, but he won most of the penalties, not to mention how many goals he score from distance shoot or how many goals he score cause of his instinct or with the header .....

Ronaldo is not only the player vs lower teams, he is the player for the big games. 16 goals against Barcelona prove it, he also score so, so much in the CL, against anyone, so its not even close.

I say it many times, Hazard is gifted, but he doesn`t have the winning mentality Ronaldo/Mesi have it and the hard work to be really at that top, top level. To be fair Hazard can`t even be consistent to reach the leve below that ....

He doesn`t life to his potential.

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Ivanov87 said:

I would rather have James Milner than hazard or Ronaldo. Great attitude and gives 100 every game. Actually f**k Milner, I would rather have Darren fletcher. Now there's a man without ego. 

I know you"re just joking. And it's brave too because in my experience it's dangerous to use sarcasm on the internet. It can go unnoticed easily and trigger people

If Real offer anything around £25mil plus for Eden, we'd be fools not to take it. The once jaw dropping talents that made him a stand out are long gone. It's sad watching him run around, not really contributing anything. He has no desire to beat players any more. Effectively, he's exactly the kind of player Rooney has become. A shadow. 

I am in no position to tell anyone what they should think and what not.

But sometimes I am worried that Hazard is a victim of his own talent. It's either MOTM for him or people blame him for not being committed, inconsistent, a "rat". He has the blessing and the burden of being the split point between an excellent Chelsea game and an average one. 

Those who take every opportunity to poke him with a stick will continue to do so, there is no point arguing. That's very worrying indeed because if he gets fed up and leaves I saw what awaits us - in fact it was there for everyone to see. Last season.

Hi splishsplosh.

14 minutes ago, BishBosh said:

If Real offer anything around £25mil plus for Eden, we'd be fools not to take it. The once jaw dropping talents that made him a stand out are long gone. It's sad watching him run around, not really contributing anything. He has no desire to beat players any more. Effectively, he's exactly the kind of player Rooney has become. A shadow. 

25mill plus????? Are you right in the head?

Hazard tends to hold back against teams who start kicking lumps out of him and is not given the protection which players of his nature should be afforded (No wonder Spain attracts all the more naturally talented individuals). Yesterday on countless occasions he was snapped at & in the end he started taking the easy way out. It is a approach teams have taken to negate the Hazard factor but it can only work with a more lenient ref & unfortunately the officiating in the PL is beyond abysmal.

@BishBosh You do realise Spurs paid £32m for Sissoko to a team relegated to the championship & Hazard is a former PL Champion and atleast twice the player Sissoko is.  

Guys, he/she is trolling, don't take the bait.

Also, if the linesman does his job,  hazard creates a great goal for Costa yesterday. 

 

For some people though I know that it is as simple as judging how often he dribbles to determine how well he has played. He isn't Ryan giggs. 

29 minutes ago, BishBosh said:

If Real offer anything around £25mil plus for Eden, we'd be fools not to take it. The once jaw dropping talents that made him a stand out are long gone. It's sad watching him run around, not really contributing anything. He has no desire to beat players any more. Effectively, he's exactly the kind of player Rooney has become. A shadow. 

I'm all for criticising players who are performing below par, but that is absolute verbal diarrhoea. He's been off form for a few games, he still has the jaw dropping talent. Long gone? Did you see him for the first third of the season? hazard is worth 80 million plus, therefore i wouldnt sell him for less than 150mill. He's our best player, he's scored 50 goals for us quicker than Lamps did, and he's 25, he's not a dinosaur. Christ

Edit: Just noticed your username. . .  Splishsplosh

Edited January 23, 20179 yr by RMCM

25 minutes ago, PythonLu said:

I am in no position to tell anyone what they should think and what not.

But sometimes I am worried that Hazard is a victim of his own talent. It's either MOTM for him or people blame him for not being committed, inconsistent, a "rat". He has the blessing and the burden of being the split point between an excellent Chelsea game and an average one. 

Those who take every opportunity to poke him with a stick will continue to do so, there is no point arguing. That's very worrying indeed because if he gets fed up and leaves I saw what awaits us - in fact it was there for everyone to see. Last season.

But if you read the comments re his performance yesterday no one is calling him name or anything. Merely pointing out that a player of his calibre shouldn't be disappearing in a game like that. Which I think is a fine criticism to make a player who is often pointed to as a future potential world player of the year. What's happened here is those that don't like Hazard to be criticised have jumped in saying people have said or done things that they haven't.

Onviously except BishBosh who is obviously SplishSplosh. I can't believe people cracked his code 

Edited January 23, 20179 yr by Bobbywoodhogan