Hope he gets a two year extension great servant absolute brilliant to have around the kids.

Look forward to the day he retires (think he has another in the locker) so he can talk openly about those recurring Barcelona rumours.

2 hours ago, Brutos said:

Hope he gets a two year extension great servant absolute brilliant to have around the kids.

I don't, and I like Willian. 

Willian needs motivation, that's when he plays well, when he's fighting for his place, right now he's fighting for a contract, if we give him 2 years what's his motivation for next season?

9 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Willian needs motivation, that's when he plays well, when he's fighting for his place, right now he's fighting for a contract, if we give him 2 years what's his motivation for next season?

Citizenship?

Edited February 6, 20206 yr by strider6004

3 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

I like that 2020 is Willian's eighth year as a Chelsea player, and yet 90% of Chelsea fans still couldn't give you an accurate description of what he actually does. 

He tries to start a Mexican wave every game 😂

2 hours ago, Brutos said:

Hope he gets a two year extension great servant absolute brilliant to have around the kids.

I thought it was already confirmed he's leaving at the end of his contract. 

Maybe that was just a dream. 

1 hour ago, Remodez said:

I thought it was already confirmed he's leaving at the end of his contract. 

Maybe that was just a dream. 

Don't think it is confirmed yet though could (dream world 😊) see him playing for the Hammers.

6 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

I like that 2020 is Willian's eighth year as a Chelsea player, and yet 90% of Chelsea fans still couldn't give you an accurate description of what he actually does. 

Runs around a lot and steals a living. 

27 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Runs around a lot and steals a living. 

You could include Mount with that description since his goals have dried up yet of course he has time on his side.

31 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Runs around a lot and steals a living. 

Ha be careful, The Willian fan boys will get upset. 

I clicked to clear my notification and was bounced off to B & Q website!    No thanks!

7 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

90% of Chelsea fans still couldn't give you an accurate description of what he actually does.

Sure they can.... He hates Tottenham 

Willian the enigma.

Can't believe he has been a Chelsea player for 7 seasons. He has had the occasional brilliant game, a fair number of good games and a lot of average & forgettable games. Has scored a few great goals, got assists and has taken a few good free-kicks but when you look back, it's nowhere near enough.

Another season of Willian would show a complete lack of ambition by our club and confirm that we have settled for average. This MUST be his last season.

I suppose somebody had to take up the mantle of Chelsea's most divisive player now Luiz and Mikel have left. 

Personally I would definitely be keeping him on. I know there are rumours that he wants a two-year contract but the club are only willing to offer him one. Perhaps a one-year with an option to extend?

I think he has a unique skillset within our squad. I don't think anyone else does what he does. I think certain players are able to replicate individual elements of what Willian does, but usually not as effectively, and cannot replicate his role entirely. It's simple. When Willian is not on the pitch, we can barely string together four passes in the final third. Until we have somebody else who can do that, he must stay. 

I am utterly baffled that Willian is perpetually described as a 'winger'. He's not. 

1 hour ago, PloKoon13 said:

I suppose somebody had to take up the mantle of Chelsea's most divisive player now Luiz and Mikel have left. 

Personally I would definitely be keeping him on. I know there are rumours that he wants a two-year contract but the club are only willing to offer him one. Perhaps a one-year with an option to extend?

I think he has a unique skillset within our squad. I don't think anyone else does what he does. I think certain players are able to replicate individual elements of what Willian does, but usually not as effectively, and cannot replicate his role entirely. It's simple. When Willian is not on the pitch, we can barely string together four passes in the final third. Until we have somebody else who can do that, he must stay. 

I am utterly baffled that Willian is perpetually described as a 'winger'. He's not. 

He's played on the wing every season since coming to England, by several different managers. If he's not a winger, why are so many top level managers playing him as one?

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

He's played on the wing every season since coming to England, by several different managers. If he's not a winger, why are so many top level managers playing him as one?

But then, equally, if he is a sh*te as you and many others claim,  why are so many top  level managers playing him at all?

He's a wide forward, no point arguing over job description, we all see where he plays.

Just now, yorkleyblue said:

But then, equally, if he is a sh*te as you and many others claim,  why are so many top  level managers playing him at all?

Lack of options? What other wingers have we signed that have been good. CHO replaced him back end of last season, before that he had Schurrle and a young Salah so was bound to start.

I don't think he's sh*te, just that we can and should have done much better. 

On the same level as Malouda for me. 

3 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

I am utterly baffled that Willian is perpetually described as a 'winger'. He's not. 

which is the shame of it... that's where he plays, on the wing... and that's where he's least effective based on his skill-set

would love to see him in a wide mid-field area... even better, I would like to have seen him try and replicate a Brazil Legend Marcelo, especially later in his career. If he had the drive, he was good in Conte's system, but I think he would have been a terror playing one of the wing-backs. 

Just now, RIP Mourinho said:

Lack of options?

and poor internal scouting. You mentioned Salah. I don't think anyone would argue who you would rather have in a front 3 right now. Salah had as many league goals in one season as Willian has had in his Chelsea career. We need that fire power up front.

He was second choice to Pedro under Conte, and neither of them started in the 5-3-1-1 that he ran so much in the second season. Pedro started for Sarri when he was fit to begin the season, but then Pedro couldn't stay fit, and hasn't returned. Willian has been a true first choice for Lampard competing against Pedro who has dropped off dramatically, CHO, coming off a serious injury, and Pulisic, who can't stay fit. That Willian has been a key player is one of the reasons why we're 30 points off of 1st. That's not Willian's fault, he's just not good enough to be a key player, a #10, on a squad looking to compete for Championships.

Willian is a remarkable athlete and incredibly skilled. It's a shame he's been played out of position for virtually his entire career because the Club have deemed him good enough to hold down one of those wide spots. 

My biggest criticism of Willian on the pitch has been his effort and attitude the last 3 years. Debut against Leicester aside, he's been a very good pro this year.

But while the club sees him as world class, while the club sees him as a player fit to wear the #10, while the club give him star status... we won't be winning anything...

and that's the main reason I'm anxious for him to move on. He's a great role player, and he can fit many roles at a club chock full of talented players that don't count on Willian for goal contribution. 

21 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

On the same level as Malouda for me. 

 

Willian, for all his faults, is a much better player.

Could do with a few more of these:

 

I hoped that Willian taking the #10 shirt would make it clearer but I suppose not...

"Winger" - Chelsea fans

4 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

"Winger" - Chelsea fans

Ironically I think he plays better as a left sided forward (occupying that left winger position) as opposed to straight down the middle.