James Rodriguez

[Ballack & Blu]

5 minutes ago, Chigzzer said:

Tottenham scum 

Oh dear curiosity got the better of you, so sorry fella 

[Argo]

On June 1, 2017 at 00:10, Barrettinator said:

Bale can't stay fit anymore. Always getting injured just when he's had a run of 8 games or so where he's starting to pick form. That's a bit of a liability, don't you think?

I would be devestated if we sign Bale, he has a Torres like decline written all over him.

[brakeit]

1 hour ago, Maksimov said:

Lukaku's playing at Everton and James is at Real Madrid. One's a plain and simple battering ram and the other is a creative attacking player. It's a bit like comparing a Humvee to a Porsche.

 

That doesn`t mean a s... If you rely on your name and on what club you was playing, then you are in trouble. It`s good this "star" shi.. thing not working under Conte. He shows that with Oscar, Ivanovic, Terry.

I said it many times, Lukaku is not worth more then 50mln., and we should not go much higher then this. But Mourinho is to blame for that transfer.

But no way in hell James worth more then Lukaku or right now is the better performed player.

btw, Mbappe play for Monaco, but he is better then James, right ? He worth more, right ?

3 seasons so far at Real Madrid and he could not get it going. He could not win the battle for the spot. And there is a reason for all of that.

As much as some people hate Lukaku, and i will remember them that, when he scores goals after goals for us, he is proven in England ....

And every season he shows it and improve his game. Unlike James. I did not see a improvement in his game, from the moment he go to Real Madrid.

 

 

[Xfaxtor]

Lukaku wont score a single goal for us if we arent going to pay over 50 mill. Our strikers next year will be Batshuayi and Abraham if the board heeds your financial advice

Edited June 13, 2017 by Xfaxtor

[Chigzzer]

11 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

Oh dear curiosity got the better of you, so sorry fella 

Nah I saw it before I read your message. 

[enigma]

Have we even been linked by any legit sources? 

[Maksimov]

12 hours ago, brakeit said:

That doesn`t mean a s... If you rely on your name and on what club you was playing, then you are in trouble. It`s good this "star" shi.. thing not working under Conte. He shows that with Oscar, Ivanovic, Terry.

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And every season he shows it and improve his game. Unlike James. I did not see a improvement in his game, from the moment he go to Real Madrid.

 

 

My point wasn't that James is better because he's at Real Madrid, although it takes a player of certain caliber to get into that team. My point was that it's easier to shine when you're the big fish in a small pond AND it's a bit pointless to compare the two to begin with. They're two very different type of players and James was already a more fully formed player when he moved to Real Madrid than Lukaku was when he moved to Everton. With the number of games he's playing, Lukaku really should be improving his game. Had he not not done so, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I'm not sure that either of them are the right player for Conte's Chelsea, though.

 

[OhForAGreavsie]

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Edited June 13, 2017 by OhForAGreavsie

[ozboy]

Have we even been linked by any legit sources?

ESPN have it as one of their transfer rater vids.

Rodriguez would add goals. An alternative to Sanchez

[doctorblue]

Sadly nothing like Sanchez...wouldn't touch him unless it's a steal of a deal and by the looks of it RM are expecting to recoup the £63m they spanked on him after the world cup...err good luck with that...

[DonAntonio]

5 hours ago, doctorblue said:

Sadly nothing like Sanchez...wouldn't touch him unless it's a steal of a deal and by the looks of it RM are expecting to recoup the £63m they spanked on him after the world cup...err good luck with that...

They already recouped it on shirt sales, 20 million alone in the 48 hours after he was signed, that's why they don't like signing ugly players, kids don't buy the shirts of ugly players, literally the main reason they sold dimaria. Hazards commercial value is as attractive as his football ability, that's why they have a big wang on for him.  They are greedy c**ts and a vulgar club, I'd pay 60 million for Rodriguez but I'd hate to give it to those c**ts. 

[didierforever]

4 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

They already recouped it on shirt sales, 20 million alone in the 48 hours after he was signed, that's why they don't like signing ugly players, kids don't buy the shirts of ugly players, literally the main reason they sold dimaria. Hazards commercial value is as attractive as his football ability, that's why they have a big wang on for him.  They are greedy c**ts and a vulgar club, I'd pay 60 million for Rodriguez but I'd hate to give it to those c**ts. 

I think that 20mil £ in 48 hour rumors were debunked for James as well as bale. Also, even if James and bale sold that many shirts (shocking since they have never made the top 5 list in any year), RM would be getting like 10% (if that) off those shirt sales since adidas/Nike already pay them and would be stupid to pay RM for the shirt sales too. Not how it works. 

[KonaKai Blue]

2 hours ago, didierforever said:

I think that 20mil £ in 48 hour rumors were debunked for James as well as bale. Also, even if James and bale sold that many shirts (shocking since they have never made the top 5 list in any year), RM would be getting like 10% (if that) off those shirt sales since adidas/Nike already pay them and would be stupid to pay RM for the shirt sales too. Not how it works. 

Biggest Myth in football this whole making money back in shirt sales. People still ignore the reason why Nike and Adidas pay mega kit deals. You were being generous with 10% too. It's more like 5%

[Charles Ryder]

Helpful info on the whole shirt sales thing.

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No club has ever directly recouped a player’s transfer fee through shirt sales. Adidas, Nike, Puma and other kit suppliers get 85-90% of shirt sale revenue and this is the industry standard.

While there are some exceptions – a club such as Bayern Munich, which is part-owned by Adidas, may be given a slightly more favourable revenue share, and generally, once a certain (very large) number of shirts are sold, the revenue split on additional sales will skew more favourably to the club – these are the exceptions to the general rule.

As an example, Manchester United have a 10-year kit deal with Adidas worth £750m. This is one of the largest kit deals in football and easily the largest in the Premier League. However, the primary reason Adidas is paying Manchester United £75m per year is not simply to have a tiny logo emblazoned on United’s kit and use the club for marketing purposes. Of course, being associated with one of the few truly global clubs in football helps them capture market share in emerging markets and further solidify its presence in existing markets. But for the supplier, kit deals are licensing deals, and that’s where the real value lies to Adidas.

Football clubs are, by nature, football clubs. They’re meant to do football things. They don’t have the infrastructure required to manufacture and distribute millions of kits. Many can’t even handle running online shops, the logistics of which they outsource to third parties.

For any cynical readers who may not be so inclined to take our word for it – after all, it is a popular myth – just look at how United and Adidas announced the deal in July 2014, where the partnership is described, quite clearly, as a licensing package. In fact, Adidas CEO Herbert Hainer triumphed the deal as a “collaboration [that] marks a milestone for us when it comes to merchandising potential. We expect total sales to reach £1.5bn during the duration of our partnership.”

Despite the nonsense you may have heard about Zlatan Ibrahimovic shirt sales generating £50m for Manchester United, which would far exceed his wages, it’s simply not true. In fact, United don’t even automatically receive the 10-15% industry-standard royalty payment, no doubt because the up-front £75m annual payment is so large. United’s royalty payment only kicks in once a certain number of shirts are sold.

Just under three million Manchester United shirts were sold last season. As a case in point, let’s assume that Ibrahimovic helps sell an additional 300,000 shirts. A 10% increase is a very optimistic projection, especially considering Ibrahimovic is a Nike athlete and won’t be engaging in any Adidas promotional activities on his own. His image rights deal with United will almost certainly allow the club to feature him in Adidas promotional activities, as long as he appears with at least two other United players and the activity does not imply that Ibrahimovic is giving a personal endorsement to Adidas.

Additionally, while many United fans may choose to buy an Ibrahmovic shirt, over, say, a Chris Smalling shirt, a lot of those fans were already going to buy a shirt in the first place.

Let’s also assume that United’s royalty kicks in after three million shirts are sold, and the club receive a 15% royalty on each subsequent shirt sold. Assuming a price of £70 per shirt, that’s an additional £21m in gross sales from 300,000 shirts. Manchester United’s cut of that would be just over £3m. Now, £3m is not an insignificant amount, but it offsets less than 20% of what Ibrahimovic will likely cost the club this season (wages, agent fee, signing bonus, image rights deal).

So, at best, United are likely to see around £3m in additional revenue. While certainly not a paltry sum, it doesn’t come close to covering his costs, let alone help United earn an additional £50m. Put simply, there’s a reason why Adidas has earned more in the last six months than Manchester United, one of the highest-earning football clubs in the world, has earned in its 138-year existence.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-set-pieces-blog/2016/aug/24/transfer-window-market-myths

 

[OhForAGreavsie]

5 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Biggest Myth in football this whole making money back in shirt sales. People still ignore the reason why Nike and Adidas pay mega kit deals. You were being generous with 10% too. It's more like 5%

Even then it is only 5% on sales over and above a certain, very large, contractual number of shirts sold. For sales up to that level, clubs earn not one penny extra.

That's still not the end of it. Players' contracts often include a bonus if shirt sales trigger these additional payments from the kit suppliers. That means clubs don't get to keep all of the 5% either.

[DonAntonio]

7 hours ago, didierforever said:

I think that 20mil £ in 48 hour rumors were debunked for James as well as bale. Also, even if James and bale sold that many shirts (shocking since they have never made the top 5 list in any year), RM would be getting like 10% (if that) off those shirt sales since adidas/Nike already pay them and would be stupid to pay RM for the shirt sales too. Not how it works. 

Good info, I guess it's one of those things you hear and take for granted without breaking it down 

[BelgradeCFC]

He's gone to United 

[EdinburghBlue]

Lukaku better than Rodriguez... 'not good enough cause he can't play for Madrid' from people who are desperate for Sanchez. This site baffles me at time, delusional.

[RMCM]

42 minutes ago, BelgradeCFC said:

He's gone to United 

Source? I'm not seeing that anywhere, in fact most papers are saying we're the frontrunners

[DonAntonio]

13 minutes ago, RMCM said:

Source? I'm not seeing that anywhere, in fact most papers are saying we're the frontrunners

Some claiming they have accepted a 65 mil bid from us. 

Edited June 15, 2017 by DonAntonio

[Barrettinator]

I still insist I'm not sure of his ability to play a Right Forward role seeing as he's a number 10. If we get him and he proves me wrong then fair play to him.

[big blue]

54 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

I still insist I'm not sure of his ability to play a Right Forward role seeing as he's a number 10. If we get him and he proves me wrong then fair play to him.

I know stats aren't everything but if you look on transfermarkt, he has played more games, scored more goals, and made more assists playing right wing in his career. At least he would be an exciting signing.

Edited June 15, 2017 by big blue

[axman2526]

Does he have the conte work ethic? 

[doctorblue]

Not entirely sure that spanking £60m on him is money well spent...other teams were interested like BM but walked away at the price RM wanted...don't see why we're prepared to cough up that sort of dough for unwanted player...I would have thought we'd have been better holding off and waiting for RM to shell out £120m for Mbappe and swop in when they've dropped their trousers? 

Edited June 15, 2017 by doctorblue

[Xfaxtor]

10 hours ago, BelgradeCFC said:

He's gone to United 

Fingers crossed