Has quite a few things to iron out before next season ,hopefully next season he will come back stronger and cutting out the silky mistakes 

31 minutes ago, Bluesince66 said:

Has quite a few things to iron out before next season ,hopefully next season he will come back stronger and cutting out the silky mistakes 

Started brilliantly and then that one mistake against barca made him lose the plot completely. 

Seriously think he can be a massive player for us in the future (near and long-term). Needs to bulk up though. 

Lets hope he has a good world cup (they have one of the easiest groups and can get into knock outs), gets his confidence back and we can get the start of the season andreas.

Edited May 11, 20188 yr by didierforever

His main trouble is he's so poor in the air, and opponents put their strikers up against him and punt everything towards them, knowing they're going to win that battle. I've been underwhelmed by him. He looks silky on the ball but he does nothing with it, and he's neither athletic or fast or strong. He gets bullied a lot, in other words, and the rest of his game isn't so good that he can compensate for that. Hopefully in time the rest of his game goes up another level, and he will toughen up as he gets used to the Prem. You have to be brave as a CB in the Prem, no matter how good you are. He needs to toughen up, physically and mentally.

 

I'm not Cahill's biggest fan but it's noticeable how much more solid we've looked with him in the middle. He's tough, dominant in the air, big and strong and committed. He doesn't read the game that well and he's awful on the ball but his toughness has made a big difference to our back line. Basically we don't look so fragile.

 

Thought it was madness to rest Cahill on Wednesday.

Got more work to do, but he's 21. He'll grow into the role.

Great to see an academy graduate in the first team. Now we have to show a little patience and let him learn even if that means the odd loss as a result.

We should arguably do the same thing with RLC and potentially Jay DaSilva , Dujon or CHO next season. 

Edited May 12, 20188 yr by Spiller86

I thought he was vastly overrated earlier this season when everybody was singing his praises. He should be nowhere near our first team at the moment.

Just now, Davey Baby said:

I thought he was vastly overrated earlier this season when everybody was singing his praises. He should be nowhere near our first team at the moment.

but but youth...

I think he was excellent up until Barcelona at home. Calm, collected and was a key part of a long period of solid defense.

Since that mistake he's quite frankly been sh*t though.

Sell and replace with Alderweireld

Young players are going to make mistakes - but this is his 3rd season as a first team player in a "big" league. He is now getting to the stage where he is no longer going to be considered a rookie, and he needs to man up pretty quickly. 

Has probably been overused this year, and would have benefitted from better selection. Pick and choose the games he got rather than be a nailed down starter.....but then, a lot of our selection issues have caused headaches this season. 

An off season will do him good right now. I hope he isn't picked for the final. Jose will target him to no end as being the weak link. 

Selling him off the back of 3 bad months would be sheer stupidity and shortsighted 

He was quality the other day for Denmark. Let's stick with him next season and we will reap the benefits in years to come! Stick someone next to him who is good in the air and have the best of both worlds.

I'm in the camp with let's stick with him though Davey Baby's earlier remarks strike a note with me as unlike Cahill, McGuire (Eng.) and Stones (Eng.)  I never see him close to scoring from set pieces.

10 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

I'm in the camp with let's stick with him though Davey Baby's earlier remarks strike a note with me as unlike Cahill, McGuire (Eng.) and Stones (Eng.)  I never see him close to scoring from set pieces.

He had chances last season too, missed them all.

On 13/05/2018 at 09:06, the special one said:

Sell and replace with Alderweireld

He's a great talent, it would be a big mistake to sell him specially since he already played a lot of games very well, if only we had given chances like this to other players like we did with him...

19 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

I'm in the camp with let's stick with him though Davey Baby's earlier remarks strike a note with me as unlike Cahill, McGuire (Eng.) and Stones (Eng.)  I never see him close to scoring from set pieces.

He comes really close to scoring. He probably gets the most chances of anyone in the defence. He just misses them all. 

22 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

I'm in the camp with let's stick with him though Davey Baby's earlier remarks strike a note with me as unlike Cahill, McGuire (Eng.) and Stones (Eng.)  I never see him close to scoring from set pieces.

Stones is hardly a prolific scorer. Would take Christensen over him any day.

5 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Stones is hardly a prolific scorer. Would take Christensen over him any day.

It isn't about being prolific, the point is he had chances but still missed them. JT and Brano (and to a lesser extent Cahill/Rudiger in the past two seasons) used to be the difference between us winning 1-0 or 2-1.

Edited June 27, 20187 yr by the special one

5 minutes ago, the special one said:

It isn't about being prolific, the point is he had chances but still missed them. JT and Brano (and to a lesser extent Cahill/Rudiger in the past two seasons) used to be the difference between us winning 1-0 or 2-1.

Ivanovic didn't score for nearly two years after his brace at Anfield and Terry only got 1 a season for like 3/4 years at one point.

10 minutes ago, Argo said:

Ivanovic didn't score for nearly two years after his brace at Anfield and Terry only got 1 a season for like 3/4 years at one point.

As I said it isn't about being prolific, JT scored something like 60+ goals with 30 or so assists during his career - a direct contribution for 90+ goals. Subtract those 90+ goals and that's a contributing factor to a team that underperforms imho. CBs who take their chances are often the difference between success and failure.

Edited June 27, 20187 yr by the special one

9 minutes ago, the special one said:

It isn't about being prolific, the point is he had chances but still missed them. JT and Brano (and to a lesser extent Cahill/Rudiger in the past two seasons) used to be the difference between us winning 1-0 or 2-1.

Club goals at age 22 - 

Terry - 6

Ivanovic - 9 

Cahill - 4

Rudiger - 5

Christensen - 7 

 

I would quite confidently say most of these were missing a lot of chances at that age too. If we want to bring through youth we can't expect them to be perfect. Chances are Christensen will improve in that aspect and follow the trend of the others and up his goal scoring numbers.

4 minutes ago, the special one said:

As I said it isn't about being prolific, JT scored something like 60+ goals with 30 or so assists during his career - a direct contribution for 90+ goals. Subtract those 90+ goals and that's a contributing factor to a team that underperforms imho. CBs who take their chances are often the difference between success and failure.

If that's true that says more about the team than them. Many teams have been successful with defenders barely scoring (Maldini and Baresi barely ever did, for example), goals from defenders should never be anymore than a bonus.

34 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Stones is hardly a prolific scorer. Would take Christensen over him any day.

Wasn't commentating on the overall game yet seeing our defenders play for Southgate just brought home how poor we were scoring from corners, now when we had Cahill, JT and Ivanovich we score a lot from this way. Seems to me we lack in that area now.

12 minutes ago, Argo said:

If that's true that says more about the team than them. Many teams have been successful with defenders barely scoring (Maldini and Baresi barely ever did, for example), goals from defenders should never be anymore than a bonus.

Amen, when looking at how successful a player Christensen is his goal scoring should be way down the list. 

19 minutes ago, Argo said:

If that's true that says more about the team than them. Many teams have been successful with defenders barely scoring (Maldini and Baresi barely ever did, for example), goals from defenders should never be anymore than a bonus.

True, Maldini and Baresi barely scored - but then they rarely made mistakes that led to goal scoring opportunities like Christensen did last season. Cahill made mistakes in the 16/17 title winning season but made up for them with 8 goals. I wouldn't expect Christensen to be scoring 8 goals but he needs to eliminate the mistakes from his game, failure to do so just puts unnecessary pressure on his teammates imho.

And clearly to eliminate the mistakes from his game he should be sold and replaced by a 29 year old.