1 hour ago, abramovich said:

Was at fault against Barca and again today.

I wonder if people were as forgiving towards someone like Cahill rather than a young player everyone wants to succeed because he's our first bonafide academy player turned first team footballer since Terry.

Someone like Cahill with years of experience should know better. Christensen is still learning, hence people being more forgiving. Not hard to understand. 

12 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Someone like Cahill with years of experience should know better. Christensen is still learning, hence people being more forgiving. Not hard to understand. 

Christensen has two Bundesliga seasons behind him. He's got enough experience. If he's as good as he's thought to be, he should learn fast. A few more costly errors like that and he may end up on the bench.

10 hours ago, abramovich said:

Christensen has two Bundesliga seasons behind him. He's got enough experience. If he's as good as he's thought to be, he should learn fast. A few more costly errors like that and he may end up on the bench.

He's still 21. Cahill has had an entire career behind him. Big difference. As many people so often say, leagues like Bundesliga/Ligue 1 are nowhere near premier league quality. 

Like all young players, he will lack consistency. Having taken the step of introducing him to the team we should now stick by him and let him learn from his mistakes. He has all the credentials to be a top class central defender unfortunately errors in his position often end up in goals.

The Lingard goal was DD's fault, he was shadowing Lingard on the edge of the box, then he let him wander into the box unattended, you can't fall asleep like that.

26 minutes ago, coco said:

The Lingard goal was DD's fault, he was shadowing Lingard on the edge of the box, then he let him wander into the box unattended, you can't fall asleep like that.

It looked like he said something to AC and pointed at him but still I also fault DD for not sticking with Lingard. IMO if you have the opportunity to let your center back not have to mark someone the better so they can pick up anything else coming into the box. DD really had no reason to pass off Lingard.

 

go to 9:40 in the video

 

7 minutes ago, seanlu13913 said:

It looked like he said something to AC and pointed at him but still I also fault DD for not sticking with Lingard. IMO if you have the opportunity to let your center back not have to mark someone the better so they can pick up anything else coming into the box. DD really had no reason to pass off Lingard.

 

go to 9:40 in the video

 

He left Lingard unmarked to go and join Alonso Rudiger and Pedro tackle Lukaku.   DUUUH !!!

It looked to me that he was jointly capable if not more as he was not marking anyone directly and looked as though Drinkwater has gestured to him.

Yes, I thought DD gave him a clear signal and I thought he picked it up. Lingard should not be winning a header in the box like that. I've nothing but praise for Christiansen and he will learn from these things.

 

I like Andreas and slightly biased toward him cause he's a nice guy and academy boy but in that clip he heard Drinkwater, turned his head and saw Lingard but carried on marking that empty space.

He knew Lingard was there and did nothing, he's 6 foot something and could've prevented a much shorter winger from scoring with his head is pretty much the long and short of it.

He will get better though and chances are he'll become a world class CB, just stick by him and it'll happen.

2 hours ago, coco said:

The Lingard goal was DD's fault, he was shadowing Lingard on the edge of the box, then he let him wander into the box unattended, you can't fall asleep like that.

Sorry I disagree.

DD handed him on to a CB that was only zonally marking. He pointed out that he was handing him on. DD then took up a posiiton to add a further screen to Lukaku who was shaping to come across the box, possibly opening space for a left foot curler. This may have actually prompted Lukaku to cross rather than take on the shot.

Christensen basically got caught ball watching and it only takes a split second

mistakes are kind of expected for someone who's 21 playing there first season in the premiership, its a shame he couldn't have a season playing alongside JT and has to make do with Cahill 

Looked like DD clearly passed him on. One other thing though,how does a goal come from that? Lukaku was going nowhere given time to turn and get a cross in. Stop the cross you stop the goal. Catalogue of errors with each player playing his part in an avoidable situation.

Edited February 26, 20188 yr by charierre

1 hour ago, WhiteWall said:

Sorry I disagree.

DD handed him on to a CB that was only zonally marking. He pointed out that he was handing him on. DD then took up a posiiton to add a further screen to Lukaku who was shaping to come across the box, possibly opening space for a left foot curler. This may have actually prompted Lukaku to cross rather than take on the shot.

Christensen basically got caught ball watching and it only takes a split second

 

Christensen did nothing wrong for that goal, zero. He had not time to react to Lingards run. The ball was whipped in at pace and Lingard was left unmarked (thanks to Danny) to nod home.

Danny sold him out.

3 hours ago, coco said:

 

Christensen did nothing wrong for that goal, zero. He had not time to react to Lingards run. The ball was whipped in at pace and Lingard was left unmarked (thanks to Danny) to nod home.

Danny sold him out.

Sorry have to disagree with you on this , if you look at the footage he looks and sees Lingard when he looks up after being passed him by Drinkwater but fails to see him as a threat so does not advance to challenge or become an obstacle to Lingard , if he moved 1 step to the side he would have would have won the header and stoped the goal , a mistake he will learn from , he got caught ball watching and marking grass  

Edited February 27, 20188 yr by Tea Bar Boy

I feel Rudiger and Alonso should have stopped the cross at first place 

Granted, the tackle presented by Pedro does look like that of a 12 year old.

14 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Sorry I disagree.

DD handed him on to a CB that was only zonally marking. He pointed out that he was handing him on. DD then took up a posiiton to add a further screen to Lukaku who was shaping to come across the box, possibly opening space for a left foot curler. This may have actually prompted Lukaku to cross rather than take on the shot.

Christensen basically got caught ball watching and it only takes a split second

Yeah thats pretty much how I saw it, DD handed him on as you would normally do and Christensen definitely understood. He made the mistake of then switching of and Lingard got away from him.

Didn't see the goal, but read it was another mistake from him? Time to drop him for a few games?

1 minute ago, Zeta said:

Didn't see the goal, but read it was another mistake from him? Time to drop him for a few games?

Yeah but for who? Gay Cahill? no thanks. He still has had a good season overall.

Tough few games for Andreas against some of the best players in the world at Barca/City/United

For sure, he has made a few errors recently but with the right attitude you would hope he can come through it a better player. 

Many on this forum have long been going on about the club not giving young players a chance, but they also have to accept young players will most likely make mistakes too!

I think we have all seen enough this season to believe he can be a big player for us over the next few years.

For me, we should persist with starting him.

Wouldn’t blame him for the mistakes when you put the tactics in context. 

harsh to blame him entirely for that goal. if i remember rightly it was a sliced clearance while the ball was waist height which then bounced to aguero and then the goal came from that build up. it certainly wasn't a direct mistake like vs barcelona. he's probably feeling a bit of heat lately and trying to play, but in the back of his mind he's made mistakes so maybe trying too hard not to. 

His mistake and Alonso's as well.

When your gameplan is to defend and all you do is inviting the opponent to attack you every minute, then the mistake will come in any minute. 

Only two people I can blame for that goal Conte and Alonso, 1:) for his defensive approach and 2) Alonso ball watching, had he looked over this shoulder he would of known Sliva was coming in.