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David Luiz back at Chelsea

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2 minutes ago, just said:

You certainly won't get an argument from me on that. But I would still like to see Luiz in the formation above for 3 reasons.

1. Takes him out of our back line.

2. Puts in him a position to play those long passes and to be further up the pitch.

3. He has Kante as a minder (cover) and Luiz, in theory, should also be better defensively than Jorginho.

It'll never happen I know but all the same, would like to see it tried.

I've never been keen on Luiz in midfield to be honest, I think he has a tendency to chase the ball like a dog in the park. 

Something has to change though, we can't keep churning out perfomances like tonight. 

Even when we were set up as a counter attacking team last season under conte, we still had some really shocking perfomances. There seems to be problems all through the club at the moment. 

 

He's completed 1,822 passes in the league so far this season. I guess it was only a matter of time before he had a brain fart moment like last night. 

You're always going to be playing with fire asking Luiz to take such a central role in your team. 

  • 4 weeks later...
On 02/02/2019 at 21:59, Munkworth said:

I hate to say it but David seems to be getting a bald spot at the back :panicbutton:

He's clearly not enjoying his football any more.

One of my many personal highlights from last night was David Luiz needling Harry Kane to such an extent that he got himself clattered into the advertising boards, then trying to trip over Kane, and still managing to get him booked. Some top sh*thousing - something we've sorely missed. 

27 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

He's clearly not enjoying his football any more.

One of my many personal highlights from last night was David Luiz needling Harry Kane to such an extent that he got himself clattered into the advertising boards, then trying to trip over Kane, and still managing to get him booked. Some top sh*thousing - something we've sorely missed. 

Pedro constantly walking into Danny Rose during a throw in was some top sh*thousing last night too. 

2 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

I was kind of hoping we'd score an offside winner to be honest

Personally I would say I enjoyed the clinical finish by Trippier far more than any dubious goal we could've scored

If only it was the decisive goal as opposed to a rubber stamping of the inevitable 

20 hours ago, Imran_CFC said:

Personally I would say I enjoyed the clinical finish by Trippier far more than any dubious goal we could've scored

 

It could only have been improved upon if it had been Dele Alli's o.g. :biggrin:

Edited by Valerie

  • 2 weeks later...

Anyone else notice his “attempt” of a tackle when wolves were breaking for their goal?  It was embarrassing, almost identical to his attempt with Son, away to Spurs.  Then he turned and barely managed a slight jog back.

10 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

Anyone else notice his “attempt” of a tackle when wolves were breaking for their goal?  It was embarrassing, almost identical to his attempt with Son, away to Spurs.  Then he turned and barely managed a slight jog back.

Not entirely his fault. More on Sarri IMO. If Sarri wants us to defend with a ultra high press on the half-way line, (something I do not believe will ever be successful in the EPL), then he absolutely must not pick David Luiz in his back line. Luiz will see the ball and go towards it regardless of what gap is behind him. He always has and always will.

40 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

Anyone else notice his “attempt” of a tackle when wolves were breaking for their goal?  It was embarrassing, almost identical to his attempt with Son, away to Spurs.  Then he turned and barely managed a slight jog back.

I also thought Azpilicueta was late in recognizing danger. He waited too long to get into a sprint back. 

31 minutes ago, just said:

Not entirely his fault. More on Sarri IMO. If Sarri wants us to defend with a ultra high press on the half-way line, (something I do not believe will ever be successful in the EPL), then he absolutely must not pick David Luiz in his back line. Luiz will see the ball and go towards it regardless of what gap is behind him. He always has and always will.

Sure but I still think it’s more of an effort thing than a tactics thing.

14 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

Sure but I still think it’s more of an effort thing than a tactics thing.

It's a brain pattern thing with Luiz. He will never change. Sarri tactics with the high press put him in the situation. It cannot be surprise to anyone who knows how Luiz plays. 

Luiz and a high flat press = a recipe for disaster.

Just now, just said:

It's a brain pattern thing with Luiz. He will never change. Sarri tactics with the high press put him in the situation. It cannot be surprise to anyone who knows how Luiz plays. 

Luiz and a high flat press = a recipe for disaster.

It's not just him though, Rudiger cant defend the center circle either.

 

1 hour ago, mwblue10 said:

Anyone else notice his “attempt” of a tackle when wolves were breaking for their goal?  It was embarrassing, almost identical to his attempt with Son, away to Spurs.  Then he turned and barely managed a slight jog back.

Luiz has been doing that his whole career, it's his worst trait. He has never learned how to contain. If he see's the ball slightly loose, he jumps in and tries to win it. He takes himself out of the game and leaves the whole defence exposed when he does this.

9 minutes ago, coco said:

It's not just him though, Rudiger cant defend the center circle either.

 

No one can. Not unless our centre-halves are Linford Christie and Usain Bolt. But we all know what Luiz is like. He will get drawn towards the ball in those situations. Solution. Don't play a defensive high line with the half pitch behind to run into.

4 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Luiz has been doing that his whole career, it's his worst trait. He has never learned how to contain. If he see's the ball slightly loose, he jumps in and tries to win it. He takes himself out of the game and leaves the whole defence exposed when he does this.

I’ve always said and I maintain that he is not a good defender. He was terrific in a 3 because he had two other CB’s to cover for him when he went on a mazey or went for a ball he was never going to win but in a back four, he’s simply not good enough.

 

He can ping all the diagonals under the sun, his ability to pass for a centre half is unquestionable but he’s a jailbait defender. I’ve said before, Christensen might not bring the passing ability Luiz does, but he is a better outright defender. A lot of people seem to have an opinion of Andreas because of his dip in form last season and forget the majority of the rest of his time in the first XI where he’s been a rock.

Thought a lot of the blame for the goal was on him yesterday. 

Pinged a 50 yard diagonal ball towards Pedro that was way too high and he had no chance of winning against a centre back and their left back. Possession is easily turned over and with the whole team pushed up to the half way line in just two passes you’re in behind the defence.

Instead of jockeying the attacker to give the midfield a chance to get back Luiz dives into a powder puff challenge and given he’s got no pace anymore he just takes himself out of the game.

I get Luiz’s passing range is a good asset but yesterday he was flinging 40/50 yard passes out of play all game long and it became more of a hindrance than an asset.

Here is a 1 minute clip.

From their perspective, very clever forward play with holding the ball and a couple of 1-2s.

For me Luiz should have run back quicker yet also you would expect Emmerson and Kante to cut out the pass.

 

23 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Here is a 1 minute clip.

From their perspective, very clever forward play with holding the ball and a couple of 1-2s.

For me Luiz should have run back quicker yet also you would expect Emmerson and Kante to cut out the pass.

 

Without playing the video, if you told someone who didn't know what happened, that Wolves scored from this, i think they would find it laughable.  5 of our players surrounding 2 at midfield and they completely picked us apart.

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