5 minutes ago, theone said:

what will happen when he doesn't have players to press a team?

maybe he will kick them up the butt

5 hours ago, Slojo said:

As stupid as it sounded I thought we would benefit from a manager not having instant success, Mourinho was similar and then he won the league, I did not expect it to go so backward until I saw the transfers before the season started. 

Something is going deeply wrong here and sadly us fans are in the dark about it, I really don't know who to blame because I don't think Conte is as innocent as so many people like to believe. Although it is quite odd that we've consistently had terrible title retaining seasons. 

Well the first thing we need to do is prioritize a manager who doesn't act like a 12 year old when he doesn't go all his way. 

i honestly think maybe the only guy to compete with pep will be sarri. yes, sarri hasn't won anything, but i look across europe and napoli play the only style that can go head to head with city. of course, napoli don't particularly have the cream of the crop players, which is why i think with better players sarri could do something special. maybe he would want to bring a couple napoli players in too, like insigne, mertens and allan or jorginho. 

On ?04?/?02?/?2018 at 13:11, xXRuufioXx said:

Who is your choice for the next Chelsea Manager going into next season?

It all depends on whether Roman will allow any incoming manager to actually do a managers job and not interfere or undermine him. If we want to continue with the recent trend of high profile managers then Massimiliano Allegri. If you want to buck that trend then why not give Eddie Howe a chance at a big job?

32 minutes ago, enigma said:

i honestly think maybe the only guy to compete with pep will be sarri. yes, sarri hasn't won anything, but i look across europe and napoli play the only style that can go head to head with city. of course, napoli don't particularly have the cream of the crop players, which is why i think with better players sarri could do something special. maybe he would want to bring a couple napoli players in too, like insigne, mertens and allan or jorginho. 

What style to they play? For me, I can't abide the overly defensive occasional counter attacking style that I think is what we're kind of 'playing' of recent. I admire good strong defending, but I'd love to see a more powerful approach to the game. If I could restyle Chelsea with a view to competing with City for a title, I wouldn't copy them, I'd look build a larger more athletic and faster more direct side. I'm a bit tired of watching a Chelsea team that looks like Ken Dodd's diddy men. So many of our counter attacks are killed off as Willian or Pedro or Hazard or Kante or Fabregas go scurrying off up the field whilst the referee overtakes them and the oppositions defence jog back to make a tackle. I don't know which manager is known for that style or how many players he'd need to sign and how much he'd need to spend to get there, but 'd love to see it. I really want to see Lampard, Ballack, Gullit, Poyet type midfielders steaming into the box, not afraid to have a pop. Terry, Ampadu and Desailly type centrebacks putting the fear of God into the opposition when we get a corner. And a Drogba, Dixon, Costa type striker that can hold a ball up, keep a defender occupied even when the ball is far away. Chuck in a muscular but fast wide player or two like a Duff or  Canoville (preferably that can manage a few half decent crosses) and Bob's your uncle, we can crash our way through Bournemouth, Burnley, Watford, Palace and go toe to toe with City - with pride and sod this boring passing the ball around going nowhere stuff. And if we could do all that and keep Eden, it'd be City trying to catch us.

29 minutes ago, Snedger said:

What style to they play? For me, I can't abide the overly defensive occasional counter attacking style that I think is what we're kind of 'playing' of recent. I admire good strong defending, but I'd love to see a more powerful approach to the game. If I could restyle Chelsea with a view to competing with City for a title, I wouldn't copy them, I'd look build a larger more athletic and faster more direct side. I'm a bit tired of watching a Chelsea team that looks like Ken Dodd's diddy men. So many of our counter attacks are killed off as Willian or Pedro or Hazard or Kante or Fabregas go scurrying off up the field whilst the referee overtakes them and the oppositions defence jog back to make a tackle. I don't know which manager is known for that style or how many players he'd need to sign and how much he'd need to spend to get there, but 'd love to see it. I really want to see Lampard, Ballack, Gullit, Poyet type midfielders steaming into the box, not afraid to have a pop. Terry, Ampadu and Desailly type centrebacks putting the fear of God into the opposition when we get a corner. And a Drogba, Dixon, Costa type striker that can hold a ball up, keep a defender occupied even when the ball is far away. Chuck in a muscular but fast wide player or two like a Duff or  Canoville (preferably that can manage a few half decent crosses) and Bob's your uncle, we can crash our way through Bournemouth, Burnley, Watford, Palace and go toe to toe with City - with pride and sod this boring passing the ball around going nowhere stuff. And if we could do all that and keep Eden, it'd be City trying to catch us.

What a player Gullit was, even at 33 he was like a Rolls Royce in Centre Mid for us. What we could do with someone of his ilk now to play alongside Kante.

16 minutes ago, Osgoodwasgood said:

What a player Gullit was, even at 33 he was like a Rolls Royce in Centre Mid for us. What we could do with someone of his ilk now to play alongside Kante.

Was his first game in a Chelsea shirt at Gillingham in a friendly?, I remember being there with the stand rocking side to side, I'm sure Hughes played aswell.

47 minutes ago, Snedger said:

What style to they play? For me, I can't abide the overly defensive occasional counter attacking style that I think is what we're kind of 'playing' of recent. I admire good strong defending, but I'd love to see a more powerful approach to the game. If I could restyle Chelsea with a view to competing with City for a title, I wouldn't copy them, I'd look build a larger more athletic and faster more direct side. I'm a bit tired of watching a Chelsea team that looks like Ken Dodd's diddy men. So many of our counter attacks are killed off as Willian or Pedro or Hazard or Kante or Fabregas go scurrying off up the field whilst the referee overtakes them and the oppositions defence jog back to make a tackle. I don't know which manager is known for that style or how many players he'd need to sign and how much he'd need to spend to get there, but 'd love to see it. I really want to see Lampard, Ballack, Gullit, Poyet type midfielders steaming into the box, not afraid to have a pop. Terry, Ampadu and Desailly type centrebacks putting the fear of God into the opposition when we get a corner. And a Drogba, Dixon, Costa type striker that can hold a ball up, keep a defender occupied even when the ball is far away. Chuck in a muscular but fast wide player or two like a Duff or  Canoville (preferably that can manage a few half decent crosses) and Bob's your uncle, we can crash our way through Bournemouth, Burnley, Watford, Palace and go toe to toe with City - with pride and sod this boring passing the ball around going nowhere stuff. And if we could do all that and keep Eden, it'd be City trying to catch us.

napoli's style of play is very similar to what barca's was under pep. i personally think the difference between them and city is city prefer to keep possession and play it a bit safer, but with napoli they don't mind playing more riskier balls and going at teams more. from what i have seen of them, they also create many scoring opportunities. they don't always score, but the opportunities they seem to create is impressive.

also, what sarri has done with the players he had when he got to the club is very good. rafa benitez inherited and bought most of the current crop of napoli players before sarri came in, but he was nowhere near as successful with them and the team went backwards, rather than forwards. sarri came in and brought in a couple players, i think allan and not sure who else.

anyway, since then sarri has got napoli playing fantastic. not to forget they lost higuain the season before last, so that was a huge loss for them. they finished 2nd/3rd last season i believe. this season they have been challenging for the title and leading the league for large parts of the season rarely deviating from sarri's style of play, all the while having one of the best defences in the league. their squad depth is also shallow, missing their best lb since the city game in the champions league due to long term injury and milk, another one of their top players, due to long term injury too.

here is a video analysis from last season's napoli, it's really interesting. 

 

^^ there are similar videos of Conte and how he set up Juventus and won two in a row , i am not saying Sarri is a bad manager , every manger struggles when he is at Chelsea sooner or later. its time to acknowledge there something else that need fixing first 

2 hours ago, enigma said:

napoli's style of play is very similar to what barca's was under pep. i personally think the difference between them and city is city prefer to keep possession and play it a bit safer, but with napoli they don't mind playing more riskier balls and going at teams more. from what i have seen of them, they also create many scoring opportunities. they don't always score, but the opportunities they seem to create is impressive.

also, what sarri has done with the players he had when he got to the club is very good. rafa benitez inherited and bought most of the current crop of napoli players before sarri came in, but he was nowhere near as successful with them and the team went backwards, rather than forwards. sarri came in and brought in a couple players, i think allan and not sure who else.

anyway, since then sarri has got napoli playing fantastic. not to forget they lost higuain the season before last, so that was a huge loss for them. they finished 2nd/3rd last season i believe. this season they have been challenging for the title and leading the league for large parts of the season rarely deviating from sarri's style of play, all the while having one of the best defences in the league. their squad depth is also shallow, missing their best lb since the city game in the champions league due to long term injury and milk, another one of their top players, due to long term injury too.

here is a video analysis from last season's napoli, it's really interesting. 

 

It's dangerous taking a gamble on somebody like that, especially who hasn't won anything. It's hard to get the respect of the players. I remember when many people wanted Marco Bielsa around the time we got AVB and Marco Bielsa eventually faded into mediocrity after his Athletic side didn't go anywhere, you could even say AVB is a similar gamble to Sarri. 

it is a risk, but we've gone through most top level managers lol. ancelotti is the only other one who is proven at the elite level, but we are going over old ground. luis enrique is still being doubted by many and, i suppose, for good reason. tuchel is another risk. i think sarri could be a breath of fresh air, something different with new ideas and style of play. unfortunately it seems the club may be fixed on bringing in enrique. 

Personally don't think he will come to the UK. I like the sound if what he has done though and his philosophy.

As a long shot I could see Roberto Mancini coming back though have seen nothing mentioned in the press.

I think with the exception of Enrique and Jody M a lot of the previous mentioned managers just won't want to come to the UK, IMO.

Would love to see Jody manage the first team at some point proper Chels and got the young lads playing good stuff.

Can't see the board going for Enrique as he'd require a huge amount of money to sign those tiki taki style players.

34 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Personally don't think he will come to the UK. I like the sound if what he has done though and his philosophy.

he used to be a international banker, worked in london. this was before he became a manager. i read he was open to a move to chelsea, but whether that is a true rumour i don't know

Edited March 7, 20188 yr by enigma

I think there is a time for us to bring a manager that will finally change our team to an attacking football team. Attacking tactics, attacking thinking, plus defensive work. 

But the most important thing is using our academy, play with the youth. I'm tired of seeing our talents going away and leaving the club, losing Callum Hodson would hurt as even more.

If he will need 2 years to build a young and talented team, take it. I just want to see these changes. 

1 minute ago, IliyaKrostin said:

I think there is a time for us to bring a manager that will finally change our team to an attacking football team. Attacking tactics, attacking thinking, plus defensive work. 

But the most important thing is using our academy, play with the youth. I'm tired of seeing our talents going away and leaving the club, losing Callum Hodson would hurt as even more.

If he will need 2 years to build a young and talented team, take it. I just want to see these changes. 

Even if it means getting thumped by Arsenal and Spurs for a couple of seasons?

9 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Even if it means getting thumped by Arsenal and Spurs for a couple of seasons?

I don't believe that it will happen if the manager will work correctly, but if we all will see a proper team building and it will lead us to lose against Arsenal or Spurs, then yes. 

 

Problem is, people keep thinking short term. Football is long term, I think building for future seasons is important. Considering we have a new stadium to build, it's a good idea. 

Well damm

Simon Phillips tweeted that the club are using Zola in a “footballing capacity”. He didn’t say exactly what but it sounds like Zola is being groomed for a role somewhere in the club. 

6 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

Was his first game in a Chelsea shirt at Gillingham in a friendly?, I remember being there with the stand rocking side to side, I'm sure Hughes played aswell.

Yes that was Ruud’s first game. Unbelievable how we were packed in that night. Chairman at the time told staff to get in as many as possible! The attendance was well over capacity, you could hardly move that night!

Max Allegeri anyone? 

Rumours in the paper that Conte could stay as long as he stops moaning about transfers. Unlikely unfortunately 

Quite like the sound of this guy (attacking style of football sounds so f**king good at the moment) but doubters will have their say, no experience etc. But if i were in charge this is the road i would be going down.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5479827/Slavisa-Jokanovic-revealed-surprise-contender-Chelsea-job.html

On 3/7/2018 at 16:24, enigma said:

napoli's style of play is very similar to what barca's was under pep. i personally think the difference between them and city is city prefer to keep possession and play it a bit safer, but with napoli they don't mind playing more riskier balls and going at teams more. from what i have seen of them, they also create many scoring opportunities. they don't always score, but the opportunities they seem to create is impressive.

also, what sarri has done with the players he had when he got to the club is very good. rafa benitez inherited and bought most of the current crop of napoli players before sarri came in, but he was nowhere near as successful with them and the team went backwards, rather than forwards. sarri came in and brought in a couple players, i think allan and not sure who else.

anyway, since then sarri has got napoli playing fantastic. not to forget they lost higuain the season before last, so that was a huge loss for them. they finished 2nd/3rd last season i believe. this season they have been challenging for the title and leading the league for large parts of the season rarely deviating from sarri's style of play, all the while having one of the best defences in the league. their squad depth is also shallow, missing their best lb since the city game in the champions league due to long term injury and milk, another one of their top players, due to long term injury too.

here is a video analysis from last season's napoli, it's really interesting. 

 

You just poured out my mind exactly.

i watch Napoli every other week and after watching a scintillating direct attacking and high tempo passing and moving the ball around in quick succession, city’s games all bore me to death.

Napoli play long ground passes and tend to play it riskier. City play short passes safe passes and change positions in same meter radius, unlike Napoli that move the ball from their 18yrd box to opposition half in just 4 passes in about 6 secs, while still not losing the ball in 95% of the time.