15 minutes ago, coco said:

Jenas on MOTD says the hair pull is a straight red, hair pulling is not in the rule book, same as biting, scratching, it all comes under the umbrella of violent conduct. The fact VAR does not see it the same way is very worrying, especially with the force that was placed on his neck, even in rugby that's a sending off. 

I have no confidence in VAR now, zero, i can't imagine what excuse they could use to explain why they think it's not violent, their is literally nothing they can say to make it feel better, the only thing would be for them to admit they got it wrong, but i cannot see them ever admitting to us they did wrong. If it was Haalands pony tail getting tugged Taylor and VAR would be calling it violent, no doubt about that at all.

I lost confidence in it from day 1. All of this microanalysing they do in the English game and they still can't come to the right decision. I don't see how anybody can't see that it's a red card. Everybody is calling it that, but these refs can't see it, even after all of the replays with all of the different angles, they still say play on. I would be happy to remove every single English ref from Premier League football and bring in European refs. They aren't perfect, I have seen some terrible VAR decisions in Serie A, but I can trust them to not be so biased and actually have some consistency in their decision making. If this was a Champions League game, I would be confident in a ref seeing that hair pull on Cucurella without the need for VAR to step in. 

Nobody has confidence in English refs anymore. It's gotten to the point where fans are checking which ref they will have officiating their game because they are worried about getting one of the worst ones. Also, why is that old fossil Mike Dean sticking around like a bad smell? Football fans are sick of him. 22 years he has been a ref in the Premier League now, how is that possible from somebody that is as bad as he is? How do we expect standards to improve when he can stick around for so long? No other league in Europe would have him.

35 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said:

I do get the vitriol towards Taylor, but we are only bleating because the result was so in the balance, if we'd of spanked them the 5 or 6-2 our dominance deserved, all we would be moaning at is that Taylor missed a possible Red card, we are our own worst enemy, and no amount of Refereeing shenanigans would affect the result...

Refereeing plays a huge part on the game dynamics and outcomes. Yellow cards shown for nothing and ignored for serious fouls, blind eye to violent conduct, niggling pull ups and bias decisions in 50/50 - they all wind up players, disrupt rhythm, cause aggravation and destroy flow of game. A corrupt determined referee can easily ensure that any PL club loses to a decent pub team.

Anthony Taylor in my opinion is not only biased and corrupt, but also awfully inept and feels the need for self-reassurance by making bonkers decisions to stun the public just to prove that he can. 

 

In MoD they discussed the first goal against us and made me laugh with their feeble excuses why the goal was legit. They even made an effort to draw an angle of Mendy's vision with the spuds player in this angle only to claim that Mendy's vision was not obstructed. "Yeah but no but yeah but" - they were clearly trying hard to be Vicky Pollard in that studio. 

Just now, Stas1 said:

In MoD they discussed the first goal against us and made me laugh with their feeble excuses why the goal was legit. They even made an effort to draw an angle of Mendy's vision with the spuds player in this angle only to claim that Mendy's vision was not obstructed. "Yeah but no but yeah but" - they were clearly trying hard to be Vicky Pollard in that studio. 

He was obviously in his line of sight

he even swerved away so the ball could go through 

Hahahahaha 

Just checked the stats, both teams had the same amount of faults, yet we had 3 yellow cards to their 0. I thought RLC did a good job, but we looked far more threatening when James is in his natural position. Let's hope Tuchel and players turn the frustrations out of this game into motivation for games to come.

9 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

So you trust Azpilicueta to deal with Son on the inevitably lobbed counter attack? 

Where I’m my statement thst you’ve highlighted has Azpi involved? 

4 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I don't see how anybody can't see that it's a red card. Everybody is calling it that, but these refs can't see it, even after all of the replays with all of the different angles, they still say play on.

Maybe they are being paid not to call certain things? It’s the only possible answer to something as blatant as that.

5 hours ago, coco said:

Jenas on MOTD says the hair pull is a straight red, hair pulling is not in the rule book, same as biting, scratching, it all comes under the umbrella of violent conduct. The fact VAR does not see it the same way is very worrying, especially with the force that was placed on his neck, even in rugby that's a sending off. 

I have no confidence in VAR now, zero, i can't imagine what excuse they could use to explain why they think it's not violent, their is literally nothing they can say to make it feel better, the only thing would be for them to admit they got it wrong, but i cannot see them ever admitting to us they did wrong. If it was Haalands pony tail getting tugged Taylor and VAR would be calling it violent, no doubt about that at all.

Totally agreed. I could maybe see VAR staying out of it, if there was a more casual, and subtle hair tug. But his head was pulled back violently. Made Savic's tug on Grealish look like nothing, and yet the press were livid over that one at the time. He may have got away with this one thanks to the corruption of our refs, but hopefully Romero will get his payback at some point. 

Ah games like this both make me miss DaZn having the PL games and also grateful they don't.

Did not read the match day thread live, only the post match posts. Is great to read how proud and optimistic most of you are feeling from our performance. I imagine for this game the bridge was rocking. From that is a shame to miss such a performance and atmosphere.

On the other side I see how angry TT, RLC and most of you are about the ref, VAR, our finishing and how the game ended. Cannot say am disappointed not to have absorbed that first hand as it would have left me angry for the rest of the day.

Honestly with how biased I feel the media, the people in power and officals are against us and working against us the game has become less and less appealing and VAR is only getting worse as a tool to screw us.

I said antony Taylor is the anti chelsea but both goal decision wasn't his fault. 

The foul on Havertz was 50/50 play. Even if VAR goes this far, you can't overturn this. The bigger question mark was the offside call. But again I thought it was offside, some people here is ok with that. 

2nd goal with so many nonsense stuff going on inside penalty box during corner, this is where you need var. Now this is difficult, does that hair pulling considered to be a red. 100% yellow but you can't give yellow with var and it was a dead ball play so I think even if Romero got red carded, spurs will still got that corner (maybe I am wrong) 

43 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

I said antony Taylor is the anti chelsea but both goal decision wasn't his fault. 

The foul on Havertz was 50/50 play. Even if VAR goes this far, you can't overturn this. The bigger question mark was the offside call. But again I thought it was offside, some people here is ok with that. 

2nd goal with so many nonsense stuff going on inside penalty box during corner, this is where you need var. Now this is difficult, does that hair pulling considered to be a red. 100% yellow but you can't give yellow with var and it was a dead ball play so I think even if Romero got red carded, spurs will still got that corner (maybe I am wrong) 

2nd goal is on him. He was looking right at the hair pull and should have sent of Romero.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Ah games like this both make me miss DaZn having the PL games and also grateful they don't.

Axman who has the rights to show the EPL and CL matches in Canada this season?

Does anyone also know the same for the USA?

2 minutes ago, just said:

Axman who has the rights to show the EPL and CL matches in Canada this season?

Does anyone also know the same for the USA?

EPL is on something called Fubo TV.

CL is still on DaZn.

Edited August 15, 20223 yr by axman2526

52 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

2nd goal is on him. He was looking right at the hair pull and should have sent of Romero.

Now how the f**k can the bald twat miss this? Is he blind  or just CORRUPT ???

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

2nd goal is on him. He was looking right at the hair pull and should have sent of Romero.

First goal even more, he fully ignored the foul on Kai and the offside of Richarlison which in itself is the reason why Mendy was half a second late in order to save that shot from distance. VAR + Talyor = Anti Chels and here is proof:

 

1 hour ago, coombsie said:

Now how the f**k can the bald twat miss this? Is he blind  or just CORRUPT ???

I'm quite sure he saw it. 

Every person I've seen comment on the incident has seen it as a clear red card for violet conduct ... the only two people who don't are Taylor and the VAR official. 

It's either incompetence or corruption/bias ... the only two possible explanations.  Possibly one official could be incompetent, but both of them ? Corruption/bias all day long ... 

4 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I said antony Taylor is the anti chelsea but both goal decision wasn't his fault. 

The foul on Havertz was 50/50 play. Even if VAR goes this far, you can't overturn this. The bigger question mark was the offside call. But again I thought it was offside, some people here is ok with that. 

2nd goal with so many nonsense stuff going on inside penalty box during corner, this is where you need var. Now this is difficult, does that hair pulling considered to be a red. 100% yellow but you can't give yellow with var and it was a dead ball play so I think even if Romero got red carded, spurs will still got that corner (maybe I am wrong) 

That is technically wrong. VAR can advise when there is a break of play to wait for a check, which Taylor did. VAR (Mike Dean) could/should have decided that hair pulling was foul play and awarded a free kick. I think it is a free kick and maybe more all day long but I will just comment that you see an incredible amount of foul play of one sort or another in the penalty box.

When you think of beckham getting sent off in a world cup for so, so much less it makes the whole thing ridiculous.

And yet in the end it wasn't the hair pulling that made our corner defence poor. We can blame VAR all day long for their mistake but it was on us that spuds scored.

5 minutes ago, ozboy said:

That is technically wrong. VAR can advise when there is a break of play to wait for a check, which Taylor did. VAR (Mike Dean) could/should have decided that hair pulling was foul play and awarded a free kick. I think it is a free kick and maybe more all day long but I will just comment that you see an incredible amount of foul play of one sort or another in the penalty box.

VAR cannot give you that foul unless it was a red card. 

2 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

VAR cannot give you that foul unless it was a red card. 

I stand corrected. That is 100% right. Thanks

4 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I said antony Taylor is the anti chelsea but both goal decision wasn't his fault. 

The foul on Havertz was 50/50 play. Even if VAR goes this far, you can't overturn this. The bigger question mark was the offside call. But again I thought it was offside, some people here is ok with that. 

2nd goal with so many nonsense stuff going on inside penalty box during corner, this is where you need var. Now this is difficult, does that hair pulling considered to be a red. 100% yellow but you can't give yellow with var and it was a dead ball play so I think even if Romero got red carded, spurs will still got that corner (maybe I am wrong) 

VAR in England is a complete joke. If you'd watch how great it is used in Italy or France, you'd think it is a completely different technology used. But it is not, though...

But still. Let's keep VAR out of this for a moment.

Bentancur on Havertz. Does the Spurs player touch the ball? Maybe and only in slow motion you can see it. But it does not matter really as he trips Havertz first. It is a foul and the linesman was a few feet away. He should have seen it, not the VAR. The linesman was at fault and the first to blame. Then Anthony Taylor. Then VAR.

Romero on Cucurella. Blatant hair pull. Anthony Taylor is right in front of them. VAR or not, violent conduct or not, that bald c**t should just stop the play, Chelsea get a freekick, there is no corner and the game mos def ends in Spurs' half as it was the last minute of the match.

It is incidents happening meters away from the refs and they do nothing. If this is not bias then I don't know what it is. As somebody said earlier, in every match there are tons of fouls being called during corners for the slightest touches, yet a hair pull that broughts Cucurella down gets treated as a normal play... It is a joke really.

 

4 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I said antony Taylor is the anti chelsea but both goal decision wasn't his fault. 

The foul on Havertz was 50/50 play. Even if VAR goes this far, you can't overturn this. The bigger question mark was the offside call. But again I thought it was offside, some people here is ok with that. 

2nd goal with so many nonsense stuff going on inside penalty box during corner, this is where you need var. Now this is difficult, does that hair pulling considered to be a red. 100% yellow but you can't give yellow with var and it was a dead ball play so I think even if Romero got red carded, spurs will still got that corner (maybe I am wrong) 

The ball was in play, why do people keep saying it was dead ball, it was a corner. 

7 minutes ago, coco said:

The ball was in play, why do people keep saying it was dead ball, it was a corner. 

Ah I was wrong. I really thought that was a dead ball.